K-Rod Probably Headed to New York

[BSN07]

I think it's fair to say Omar has done a real good job since coming over from Montreal' date=' despite the Mets late-season collapses. He does his job pretty well for the most part.[/quote']

 

He doesn't produce the young talent like he used to. He is a FA machine now. With his payroll, and not making the PO 2 years running, doesn't look like a good job to me.

[TheKilo]

Weren't Wright and Reyes part of the regime before Minaya? i really can't think of many positive moves he's made.

[diony]

At least he ripped off the Twins.

[Cocos Disciples]

Reyes and Wright made their MLB debut before Minaya was hired.

 

As for internal positives, he drafted Mike Pelfrey in 2005 (1st round) and Daniel Murphy (13) and Joe Smith (3) in 2006. Not that much to write home about.

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But he came along, and in his first offseason made a splash with Pedro and Kaz Matsui (that one didnt work out too well, neither did Pedro really but he had that great 2005). He's always aggressive and he's very dilligent in what he does. He did a great job with the Santana deal and the the K-Rod deal. You can't fault him for the play on the field and the Mets blowing it each of the last 2 seasons. But lets not forget in 2006 the Mets team he put together did make it to Game 7 of the NLCS. I think he's done a pretty good job, but like with anything there's always going to be those who disagree.

[TheKilo]

The Santana deal was good, but I'm not sure I'd be so quick to call the KRod deal a good one.

 

The 4th year option is apparently very easy to attain, and the fact his K/9 has decreased while his BB/9 has increased put up some red flags for me.

 

3/37 is not bad right now, but we still need to see how KRod fares.

[redsoxrules]

K-rod is overated

 

 

But the mets needed him as the their BP blows

IMO K-rod has his best years behind him

[Cocos Disciples]

Yeah I would call both the Pedro and Matsui deals negatives for Minaya. It's a little too early to judge the KRod deal.

[BSN07]

Minaya got lucky that the Twins GM over played his hand with Santana. The Sox and Yanks didn't want to give up the prospects and moved on, Leaving the Mets the only viable option at the time.

[26 to 6]

The Santana deal was good, but I'm not sure I'd be so quick to call the KRod deal a good one.

 

The 4th year option is apparently very easy to attain, and the fact his K/9 has decreased while his BB/9 has increased put up some red flags for me.

 

3/37 is not bad right now, but we still need to see how KRod fares.

How is the K-Rod deal anything but great? They got the premiere closer they need, and they got him for 3/$37. If the option vests then it becomes 4/$51 Mil, which still isn't that bad. And he's only gonna be 27 come opening day. C'mon man, you can't be serious.

 

Yeah I would call both the Pedro and Matsui deals negatives for Minaya. It's a little too early to judge the KRod deal.

They didn't turn out well, but he made s quick splash signing two of the top free agenst on the market that year. Free Agency and whatnot is such a crap-shoot, you can't judge based solely on performance. He's an aggressive GM who does his best to get the job done.

[diony]

In the end K-Rod got less $$$ than Rivera, despite the fact of being younger.

[26 to 6]

He got less than Francisco Cordero got from the reds last year and less than the Mets gave Wagner a few years ago. There is no way this deal is anything but great, anyone who disagrees needs to be checked into a hospital for psychological evaluation .

[26 to 6]

For those of you who care about things such as uniform numbers like myself, there has been some question as to what number Franky will wear considering Johan already has 57. It was briefly talked about on SNY and on some blogs, and according to Mets.com he'll be wearing 75. That'll probably be a SICK looking jersey

[Cocos Disciples]

They didn't turn out well, but he made s quick splash signing two of the top free agenst on the market that year. Free Agency and whatnot is such a crap-shoot, you can't judge based solely on performance. He's an aggressive GM who does his best to get the job done.

 

I disagree, he deserves blame for that. He signed an aging, injury prone pitcher for four years and he only earned his salary for one of them. If you can't judge a GM on the quality of the players he acquires, what do you judge him on?

[redsoxrules]

He got less than Francisco Cordero got from the reds last year and less than the Mets gave Wagner a few years ago. There is no way this deal is anything but great' date=' anyone who disagrees needs to be checked into a hospital for psychological evaluation .[/quote']

 

IP/ERA/WHIP/BAA/BB

Francisco Rodriguez - 58.1, 2.47, 1.22, .199, 29

Joe Nathan - 57.0, 1.11, 0.89, .186, 13

Jonathan Papelbon - 58.0, 1.71, 0.83, .194, 7

Joakim Soria - 57.0, 1.89, 0.89, .182, 15

Mariano Rivera - 61.2, 1.46, 0.70, .171, 6

Bobby Jenks - 49.1, 1.82, 1.05, .217, 14

Scott Downs - 63.2, 1.27, 1.04, .198, 21

Brad Ziegler - 47.2, 0.57, 0.99, .197, 17

 

theres 7 names that had a better season than K-rod last year,. thats just from the AL too .

[26 to 6]

I disagree' date=' he deserves blame for that. He signed an aging, injury prone pitcher for four years and he only earned his salary for one of them. If you can't judge a GM on the quality of the players he acquires, what do you judge him on?[/quote']

Sure he deserves blame, but he deserves some credit for the fact that he went out, was aggressive, made a splash, and got 1 great year out of him. Certainly he deserves blame. But give credit where it's due. Some of his moves may not have turned out well, but you have to admire his ambition and aggressive nature.

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theres 7 names that had a better season than K-rod last year' date='. thats just from the AL too .[/quote']

What's up your ass? Would you seriously prefer Scott Downs, Bobby Jenks, or Brad Ziegler over K-Rod? If so you're a lunatic. He's proven successful, they havent.

[TheKilo]

How is the K-Rod deal anything but great? They got the premiere closer they need' date=' and they got him for 3/$37. If the option vests then it becomes 4/$51 Mil, which still isn't that bad. And he's only gonna be 27 come opening day. C'mon man, you can't be serious. [/quote']

 

That's an old 27, he's been in the league what, 7 years?

 

His peripherals are on the decline, there's no disputing that. Dollar value at the moment, it's a good signing, but it's entirely predicated on KRod maintaining an All-Star level performance.

 

If he continues to slip, the deal loses its luster.

[Cocos Disciples]

Sure he deserves blame' date=' but he deserves some credit for the fact that he went out, was aggressive, made a splash, and got 1 great year out of him. Certainly he deserves blame. But give credit where it's due. Some of his moves may not have turned out well, but you have to admire his ambition and aggressive nature.[/quote']

 

Fair enough, but that doesn't help the on-field team as much as the PR and revenue.

[26 to 6]

That's an old 27, he's been in the league what, 7 years?

 

His peripherals are on the decline, there's no disputing that. Dollar value at the moment, it's a good signing, but it's entirely predicated on KRod maintaining an All-Star level performance.

 

If he continues to slip, the deal loses its luster.

It's only a 3 (possibly 4) year deal though, it's not like he's getting old or anything. And you can't blame ghim for being good when he was young and breaking in so early. Sure he's lost some velocity, but I think he'll continue to be one of the best few closers in the game. He's a smart pitcher, the addition of the changeup to his arsenal has been good. He's got that good curveball, and the dude knows how to pitch. I would trust him in the 9th inning with a lead in a big game. He blew 7 saves last year, but he nailed down 62. That's sounds like a pretty good ratio to me. And quite frankly, I'm so glad he's out of the AL. Jose Arredando doesn't scare me nearly as much as K-rod when trying to mount a 9th inning rally. He's a big part of what made the Angels great.

[Cocos Disciples]

Jose Arredando doesn't scare me nearly as much as K-rod when trying to mount a 9th inning rally. He's a big part of what made the Angels great.

 

Funny you mention that...

 

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[Dipre]

Funny you mention that...

 

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K-Rod + Red Sox + Post-season= Meltdown.

 

I'm sure he's glad the chance to face the Sox in post-season play is a hell of a lot slimmer now.

[ydeologi]

K-Rod should benefit quite a bit by moving to the NL, but all of last year's innings, plus the workload he's bound to carry as a Met, don't bode well for the later years of the deal.