Attention Jacko Part II!!!

[Gom]

Ok...I do enjoy these "Attention Jacko" posts....

 

Jacko...since you are willing to watch Cashman sleep with your sister and videotape it, and I would rather beat him to death with a raw herring than let him spend one more day in the Yankees employ, I pose to you this question:

 

If the Yankees fail in acquiring a bona-fide free agent pitcher during the off-season, will your opinion of him change and then you will advocate his removal?

 

The way I see it,

 

CC will end up in Anaheim.

Sheets will end up in Boston

Teixeira will end up in Shea.

 

I firmly believe that Tex is by far the least important of the trio, but we'll include him for fun. Now...if he strikes out with all three, will you then advocate for his removal? If not, when?

[BoSox21]

do you do these posts so you can collect his quotes and throw them back in his face later on?

[a700hitter]

The way I see it,

 

CC will end up in Anaheim.

Sheets will end up in Boston

Teixeira will end up in Shea.

 

I firmly believe that Tex is by far the least important of the trio, but we'll include him for fun. Now...if he strikes out with all three, will you then advocate for his removal? If not, when?

I'll take Sheets.

[Gom]

do you do these posts so you can collect his quotes and throw them back in his face later on?

 

In a way, yes, in a way, no. I am a lot more flexible in my process. If by some miracle, he gets all three, I will commend him on the great job he's done. Since him and I are fans for the same team but we differ on team philosophy. Unlike a lot of people, I am interested in opposing views, so he will see things more objectively in a differing position.

 

Somewhere in the middle, the truth usually lies.

[BoSox21]

for what its worth, my prediction is:

 

CC & Tex - Yankees

Sheets - Mets

[The Dustball]

for what its worth, my prediction is:

 

CC & Tex - Yankees

Sheets - Mets

 

Eh, I don't think they sign both of those guys because each of them is going to want a monster contract for a crazy amount of years and those are exactly the type of deals that have killed the Yankees these past couple of seasons. I think they just get C.C.

[KeepTheFaith1229]

CC- Yanks

Tex- Sox

Sheets- Maybe a surprise team here, not sure if the Rangers could afford him but he would be a great addition for them.

[Mr Crunchy]

they wont get the 3 of them and if anaheim wins it all tex will probably stay there

sheets and sabby are a different animal

sheets has had a career full of injuries and sabbathia will have thrown 1000 innings in 4 years going into this free agent market....the sox beat the piss out of him in october cause he had nothing left and seeing as how milwaukee will be working him like a haitian migrant and hes 65lbs over weight then it may get him next year....

the sox wont be a player in these guys,i dont see them spending 100M+ on any of them

[ORS]

Giambi and Pavano are sure bets to come off their payroll. That's $33M right there. If Pettitte decides to retire, it's $49M. Oh, and they stop paying into revenue sharing with the new stadium opening (teams are exempt while financing a new stadium). Given their struggles this year and the fact that CC and Tex satisfy needs, I'll be shocked if they don't get both.

[BoSox21]

I dont know, something tells me with the new stadium opening, Hank is gonna turn up the pressure on Cash to win now and he's gonna go out and sign both CC and Tex. Hell, maybe even Sheets too

[redsoxrules]

Eh' date=' I don't think they sign both of those guys because each of them is going to want a monster contract for a crazy amount of years and those are exactly the type of deals that have killed the Yankees these past couple of seasons. I think they just get C.C.[/quote']

 

the Yanks have quite of bit comming off their payroll , I can see it happening

[Gom]

CC has said he likes Anaheim, and is building a house in the OC. Tex would be looking at a huge payday in New York, and with the Mets having Delgado coming off the books, look to make a splash.

 

Sheets is a perfect fit for Boston. The injury bug hasn't really hit him this year, and he'd be great insurance if Beckett bolts.

 

I'd love to see one, two, or all three, but Cashman isn't going to be happy until he builds a team with a $19.99 payroll.

[Mr Crunchy]

when is enuff enuff?

does it matter if you get 150M or 175M or 300M if you have 50M in the bank already??

ny can pay more than all but it isnt for everyone,you still need to get guys who want to play in the bronx.

then theres the tax problems,the family issues and the quality of life.

these 3 we speak of never played in the bright lights or under intense media scrutiny either

some guys thrive on this,others dont give a f*** and yet others dont want themselves or their family members subjected to the Joel Shermans of the world..

[jacksonianmarch]

Gom, I think the entire idea on passing up on Johan was to give the kids another yr to develop and to have a shot at CC, Sheets or Harden. If none of those guys or Tex are obtained, then yes, I think he should be on the hot seat. Granted, he should be given till the end of 2009 regardless, but if none of the big time FAs fall into our laps and he isnt proven a genius by the end of 2009, then yes, he should go

[redsoxrules]

Giambi and Pavano are sure bets to come off their payroll. That's $33M right there. If Pettitte decides to retire' date=' it's $49M. Oh, and they stop paying into revenue sharing with the new stadium opening (teams are exempt while financing a new stadium). Given their struggles this year and the fact that CC and Tex satisfy needs, I'll be shocked if they don't get both.[/quote']

 

Abreu is also a free agent but I'm assuming they'll sign him

[Gom]

Gom' date=' I think the entire idea on passing up on Johan was to give the kids another yr to develop and to have a shot at CC, Sheets or Harden. If none of those guys or Tex are obtained, then yes, I think he should be on the hot seat. Granted, he should be given till the end of 2009 regardless, but if none of the big time FAs fall into our laps and he isnt proven a genius by the end of 2009, then yes, he should go[/quote']

First of all, Joba looks to be a perenial top of the rotation starter. Kennedy looks to be garbage, and the jury is out on Hughes.

 

If spring training 2009 starts, and CC or Sheets aren't in the rotation, he should be out of a job.

 

Proven he's a genius is idiotic. If he had sacrificed Kennedy and Cabrera, he would still have all the pitchers coming up. Not getting Johan, not signing Cole, and not trading for CC during the season is enough to can this guy.

 

Genius in 09? Not a chance. Look at recent history. Tigers, Cards, Marlins....all touted good young pitchers. In fact, only the Braves have ever had it pan out in the last 20 odd years.

 

I'm holding you to it Jacko. If the Yankees strike out with CC and Sheets, and Hughes and Kennedy don't cut it, I want you to post it's time for him to go.

[jacksonianmarch]

If no CC, Harden, or Sheets are acquired, then Cashman is putting his face on the reclamation project. If the Old Stadium goes out without success and the New Stadium comes in without success and no big names are acquired when they are available for money only, then he should go.

[yankees228]

CC has said he likes Anaheim, and is building a house in the OC. Tex would be looking at a huge payday in New York, and with the Mets having Delgado coming off the books, look to make a splash.

 

Sheets is a perfect fit for Boston. The injury bug hasn't really hit him this year, and he'd be great insurance if Beckett bolts.

 

I'd love to see one, two, or all three, but Cashman isn't going to be happy until he builds a team with a $19.99 payroll.

 

In terms of Tex, the Yankees have the exact same scenario. It truly isn't different at all. The New York part holds true and the big contract of a first basemen coming off the books holds true.

[Gom]

I think Minaya beats Cashman again. I kind of hope so too. I would much rather see CC or Sheets than Tex.

[TheKilo]

Where would the Sox play Teixeira?

[das11209]

Where would the Sox play Teixeira?

 

Trade Lowell. Move Youk to 3rd.

[schillingouttheks]

Trade Lowell. Move Youk to 3rd.

 

To whom would you trade Lowell?

[Gom]

Tex makes little sense for the Sox. They may decide to move Youk to left. However, why bother? Money better spent elsewhere. Same really with the Yankees.

[ORS]

Why would they play Youk, who is an excellent corner infielder at both positions, in LF over Jason Bay?

[das11209]

To whom would you trade Lowell?

 

I don't know but Lowell should have some trade value. Unlike Lugo - who is untradable.

[jacksonianmarch]

Lowell isnt gonna be dealt without the sox eating a pretty significant chunk of the salary. Aging player coming off an injury plagued yr that included poor production. Also has a nagging injury that may be more serious than they let on (hip injuries could be gone with rest or something that wont ever go away). There will be enough leverage for other teams to ask for Lowell and a ton of his salary in return for anything. So you are kinda stuck with him. That being said, if healthy, he's a solid defensive 3b and a good RBI man, better suited for the 6 or 7 hole. So the upside is with keeping him.

[ARod2212]

I think Minaya beats Cashman again. I kind of hope so too. I would much rather see CC or Sheets than Tex.

You mean Omar "Grady Sizemore, Cliff Lee and Brandon Phillips for Bartolo Colon" Minaya?

 

Minaya is an awful GM who got lucky Santana fell into his lap.

 

 

I think the Yankees end up with CC and Tex. Sabathia, Wang, Joba, Mussina and Pettitte or Hughes, I'd be happy with.

 

The only thing that scares me with Sabathia is his track record in big games. He was lit up last year when matched up against Beckett in the playoffs. Hopefully by next postseason Joba will be the ace.

[a700hitter]

Lowell isnt gonna be dealt without the sox eating a pretty significant chunk of the salary. Aging player coming off an injury plagued yr that included poor production. Also has a nagging injury that may be more serious than they let on (hip injuries could be gone with rest or something that wont ever go away). There will be enough leverage for other teams to ask for Lowell and a ton of his salary in return for anything. So you are kinda stuck with him. That being said' date=' if healthy, he's a solid defensive 3b and a good RBI man, better suited for the 6 or 7 hole. So the upside is with keeping him.[/quote']The Red Sox have plenty of money, and they will shell it out to improve the team. Don't you remember the $102 million for Dice K?

[jacksonianmarch]

not necessarily true a700. The Red Sox see value and moving Lowell would entail the sox getting lesser value in return

[Gom]

Dave Robertson is a good reliever huh? Grand slam to Pedroia. Dude, if you still think Cashman is a good GM, you're a loser. Seriously. The fact that he is even offered a job shows how stupid the Steinbrenner's are.

 

I said it before. It will be a sad day when George no longer runs the team. George would have fired Cashman after 2004, both him and Torre.

 

Good riddance 2008 Yankees. At least the Giants did us well.