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Wang got hit hard tonight' date=' he got so freaking lucky. I am unwillining to admit that Wang was dominant tonight, thats such ********.[/quote']

Then you're f***ing delusional. He shut down the mighty Red Sox tonight in a splendid 2-hit effort. Give him his due man, c'mon.

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I have no problem with your feedback. I respect others opinion even though they differ from mine.

 

As long as we exchange opinions without disrespecting each other.

4th of 30 being good is not really an opinion.

 

Here is an opinion.

 

I think Stupid needs to be told it's stupid. Otherwise, Stupid will happily carry on in the bliss of ignorance, without ever being freed from the schackles of stupidity. I believe you do your fellow man a disservice when you allow unfettered stupidity to go uncorrected under the guise of "opinion". Stupid is stupid, and it needs to be identified and eliminated.

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Yeah. That's why you're an idiot. Guy gives up two hits [really three' date= bad call against Arod] and wasn't dominant. Go back to sleep. Wang is about the most dominant pitcher in the game when he's on, he's just not that consistent. Today, he had 17 of 29 batters started off with 1st pitch strikes. Do you even understand what you're watching?

 

Couldn't have asked for better. Gives our bullpen a rest, Beckett is still not sharp, we have Joba and Mo rested for the next two games. I am really liking Girardi's managing style, trying to move runners, etc.

 

I hope Mussina isn't dominant tomorrow as well.

Wang isn't consistent when it comes to sheer dominance, but he;s pretty consistent otherwise. You can count on him to more times than not take u deep into a game and likely give your team a w. What was the number they gave during the broadcast, like 17 straight starts that he went at least 6 innings or something like that? Maybe more than 17, I dont remember...

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Then you're f***ing delusional. He shut down the mighty Red Sox tonight in a splendid 2-hit effort. Give him his due man' date=' c'mon.[/quote']

 

Did you even watch the game, he pitched well but the way the sox were hitting the ball off of him its luck that his line is what it is. He got hit hard especially after the 5th innning. There were 4 balls in that inning alone that could have been homeruns in the summer, and probably would have been homeruns at Yankee stadium. By the way im not delusional, I saw what I say tonight, and team hitting the ball hard all night long.

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4th of 30 being good is not really an opinion.

 

Here is an opinion.

 

I think Stupid needs to be told it's stupid. Otherwise, Stupid will happily carry on in the bliss of ignorance, without ever being freed from the schackles of stupidity. I believe you do your fellow man a disservice when you allow unfettered stupidity to go uncorrected under the guise of "opinion". Stupid is stupid, and it needs to be identified and eliminated.

 

My opinion is that our offense to this point is not good enough to get us to the play-offs irrespective of what our pitching does.

 

They might ( and hopefully will) pick up.

 

You consider that stupid - so be it.

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Wang pitched a good game, and the results look dominant, but be honest, what did he dominate? This wasn't Pedro giving up 1 HR and that's it while striking out 17. He got 24 outs on balls in play. Only one fell in for a hit (the HR is not a ball in play). 1/24, and several of those balls had some hair on them on their way away from the plate. He was good, but I'd welcome him pitching exactly the same way in a rematch, especially in warmer weather with the amount of fly balls he was giving up.
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It's part of the game. How many runners did the Yankees leave on base? The rookie mistake by Gonzalez getting doubled off?

 

If you ask me, it's Buchholz that got lucky tonight.

 

Wang gave up a lot of flyballs...because he was mixing in his four-seamer. The Red Sox had a lot of success against him because they would wait on the sinker. They were getting under the four seamer. He struck Manny out earlier on a straight fastball. He's finally learning how to succeed without just one pitch.

 

Like I said, MannyHOF24...try understanding what you're watching. Come back to me when you figure it out.

Funny to see Gom' date=' 26 to 6, and Optimist all show up now that the game is over and the Yankees won.[/quote']

I chimed in before the game, you weenie.

Wang pitched a good game' date=' and the results look dominant, but be honest, what did he dominate? This wasn't Pedro giving up 1 HR and that's it while striking out 17. He got 24 outs on balls in play. Only one fell in for a hit (the HR is not a ball in play). 1/24, and several of those balls had some hair on them on their way away from the plate. He was good, but I'd welcome him pitching exactly the same way in a rematch, especially in warmer weather with the amount of fly balls he was giving up.[/quote']

I'll take it. Say he gave up four runs. I'll take that against the Sox any day of the week. You think Buchholz would have made it out of the 3rd inning if the ball was carrying like it does in the summer?

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My opinion is that our offense to this point is not good enough to get us to the play-offs irrespective of what our pitching does.

 

They might ( and hopefully will) pick up.

 

You consider that stupid - so be it.

If you'd care to pay attention, I haven't taken issue with your predictions (I think I was clear what value they hold to me). I've taken issue with your definition of what's a good offense relative to last year's team.

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Funny to see Gom' date=' 26 to 6, and Optimist all show up now that the game is over and the Yankees won.[/quote']

I'msayin...perhaps I dont like to sit at the computer while I'm watching the game like a geek and just talk the whole time..let me watch the damn game. Just because I don't devote all of my time during the game means that that's saying something? Come on....

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It's part of the game. How many runners did the Yankees leave on base? The rookie mistake by Gonzalez getting doubled off?

 

If you ask me, it's Buchholz that got lucky tonight.

 

Wang gave up a lot of flyballs...because he was mixing in his four-seamer. The Red Sox had a lot of success against him because they would wait on the sinker. They were getting under the four seamer. He struck Manny out earlier on a straight fastball. He's finally learning how to succeed without just one pitch.

 

Like I said, MannyHOF24...try understanding what you're watching. Come back to me when you figure it out.

 

I chimed in before the game, you weenie.

 

I'll take it. Say he gave up four runs. I'll take that against the Sox any day of the week. You think Buchholz would have made it out of the 3rd inning if the ball was carrying like it does in the summer?

 

Buchholz didnt really give up that many long fly balls. In fact the hardest hit ball off him was probably the the Cabera double play. I will admit that Wang was good, but he was not dominint and he probably should have given up 3-4 runs with the way he pitched, thats all im saying.

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If it makes everyone on the Red Sox side feel better....Wang won't come close to pitching this well in October....it's science

I think if there is anything we have learned as a group is that when you get to October, it's a crapshoot. He has just a chance to be amazing as he does of being putrid. That goes for everyone.

 

On another note...and this goes out to those of you that actually understand baseball...what's lost on a lot of people is that the Yankees pitching has been phenomenal. I give a lot of credit to Molina and I am calling out Jacko on his man-crush on Posada. The Yankees are a better team with Molina behind the plate. Even Jacko has to see that now.

 

Tomorrow, watch how Molina [i hope he's catching] frames pitches and gets calls. If Posada catches, watch how Moose is out of the game in the 3rd inning.

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I'msayin...perhaps I dont like to sit at the computer while I'm watching the game like a geek and just talk the whole time..let me watch the damn game. Just because I don't devote all of my time during the game means that that's saying something? Come on....

 

Must have struck a nerve....calm down I'd expect nothing less from the likes of you guys. Just curious would you have shown up and discussed the game and defended your players if you lost?

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Haha' date=' weenie.[/quote']

Everyone wants tomake weather related excuses or what have you, but bottom line is we won. Wang put up a brilliant complete game effort with just 2 in the hit column. Get over it, we won. There's 162 of these things, just go back at it tomorrow.Why does it have to be so difficult. We were better tonight, no biggie...its baseball. Whether or not you guys made contact off of Wang, or how hard, or how often isn't the point. It doesnt matter. I dont care if u guys recorded your 27 outs with nothing but hard line drives or robbed home runs, you only have 2 hits to show for your effort against Wang tonight. End of story...

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Must have struck a nerve....calm down I'd expect nothing less from the likes of you guys. Just curious would you have shown up and discussed the game and defended your players if you lost?

Usually do...I just prefer to enjoy the game when I watch it rather than discuss it as it moves along.

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I think if there is anything we have learned as a group is that when you get to October, it's a crapshoot. He has just a chance to be amazing as he does of being putrid. That goes for everyone.

 

On another note...and this goes out to those of you that actually understand baseball...what's lost on a lot of people is that the Yankees pitching has been phenomenal. I give a lot of credit to Molina and I am calling out Jacko on his man-crush on Posada. The Yankees are a better team with Molina behind the plate. Even Jacko has to see that now.

 

Tomorrow, watch how Molina [i hope he's catching] frames pitches and gets calls. If Posada catches, watch how Moose is out of the game in the 3rd inning.

Molina has been exceptional! Couldn't ask for a better backup with Jorgie out.

 

Not just behind the plate, he's been doing it with the bat too. He's not even a regular player and he's tied for the league lead in doubles.

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I think if there is anything we have learned as a group is that when you get to October' date=' it's a crapshoot. He has just a chance to be amazing as he does of being putrid. That goes for everyone.[/quote']

 

True...I'll take Beckett. Hell I might even take Schilling over Wang (even with 1/4 of his shoulder left)

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I'll take it. Say he gave up four runs. I'll take that against the Sox any day of the week. You think Buchholz would have made it out of the 3rd inning if the ball was carrying like it does in the summer?

You don't? You had a loud out in the 1st, and Cabrera's liner caught. The rest was tame and most of the threat was Clay putting people on when he lost command in the 5th.

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Funny to see Gom' date=' 26 to 6, and Optimist all show up now that the game is over and the Yankees won.[/quote']

 

Actually, I've been posting throughout the game. Good try though.

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Usually do...I just prefer to enjoy the game when I watch it rather than discuss it as it moves along.

Well, short of going to a bar and watching it with other people, the computer is an effective way for people who like to discuss the game. I mean, it's not like we are some geek who needs to be left alone to jerk off to Michael Kay's voice.

 

Gotta admit, you had that one coming.

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Everyone wants tomake weather related excuses or what have you' date=' but bottom line is we won. Wang put up a brilliant complete game effort with just 2 in the hit column. Get over it, we won. There's 162 of these things, just go back at it tomorrow.Why does it have to be so difficult. We were better tonight, no biggie...its baseball. Whether or not you guys made contact off of Wang, or how hard, or how often isn't the point. It doesnt matter. I dont care if u guys recorded your 27 outs with nothing but hard line drives or robbed home runs, you only have 2 hits to show for your effort against Wang tonight. End of story...[/quote']

 

I agree. Wang was phenomenal tonight. It happens. Obviously I'm not happy about it, but it happens. It's still the kind of game I like, though. Pitching performances like that still make the games fun for me to watch. (Im not looking forward to the personal results tonight though)

 

I was just laughing at the (I'm assuming) straight-faced way Gom threw the insult 'weenie' out there.

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This will probably be the highlight of the 2008 Yankee season' date=' because they are going nowhere.[/quote']

We have a better chance of making the playoffs then you do. I don't think there is much doubt about that.

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We have a better chance of making the playoffs then you do. I don't think there is much doubt about that.

 

Have you looked at your rotation? Haha I have come to laugh at all the ******** coments you have made since joining this site.

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Well, short of going to a bar and watching it with other people, the computer is an effective way for people who like to discuss the game. I mean, it's not like we are some geek who needs to be left alone to jerk off to Michael Kay's voice.

 

Gotta admit, you had that one coming.

I dont necessarily watch games alone, I would just rather devote my attention to the game or the people surrounding me while I'm watching the game, not a computer. Maybe geeks wasn't necessary, but that's just how I feel about it..

 

Youre right though, Remy and Orsillo just couldn't do it for me..

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Have you looked at your rotation? Haha I have come to laugh at all the ******** coments you have made since joining this site.

I think they're quite comparable at this point.

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I think they're quite comparable at this point.
They are comparable in results to this point, because Beckett has pitched only one game and Colon hasn't pitched at all. There is a big talent and depth advantage for the Red Sox staff over the Yankees in both the rotation and the bullpen. You are kidding yourself if you think otherwise. You have a two man bullpen complemented by kids and pigs.
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