July 19th vs. Chicago

[jacksonianmarch]

sox lose.

[example1]

This has got to be the worst scene of this movie... right?

[riverside sluggers]

f*** this team

f*** this team

 

Boo every single player off the field, no f***ing mercy

[jacksonianmarch]

have a good one guys. Time for bed. I get to go to bed quasi happy. Unfortunately, the yankees should have won today and that would have made me really happy, but I'll take it. G'night.

[riverside sluggers]

sox lose.

 

No s*** Sherlock, thanks for the ground breaking update

[Sox fan in Tex]

I am speechless. Wow. This team is playing so bad right now, it is unbelievable.

[jacksonianmarch]

oh, btw, you guys are now tied with the Guardians in the loss column. Hence, the yankees are just as far out of the WC as they are out of the East.

[riverside sluggers]

oh' date=' btw, you guys are now tied with the Guardians in the loss column. Hence, the yankees are just as far out of the WC as they are out of the East.[/quote']

 

mmhmm yea sure "we have a good one", like you f***ing mean it

 

oh BTW I dont f***ing care

[inkman]

Remember, Theo says we just need to wait for the slumping players to get hot and the offense will take care of itself.:wetodd:

[Cocos Disciples]

Yikes. This sucks.

[riverside sluggers]

Dice gets the loss while giving up 3 runs. Memo to Sox pitchers, you have to pitch shutouts to get the W. You'll never get run support nowadays

[example1]

Remember' date=' Theo says we just need to wait for the slumping players to get hot and the offense will take care of itself.:wetodd:[/quote']

 

Well, what the hell else do you suggest? Seriously. Ortiz with less than 60 RBI, last year he had 90 on the 19th of July. Manny is actually doing better than last year by a few, but nothing close to his old numbers.

 

RBI aren't everything, but they are certainly indicitive of runs being scored. Papi and Manny are taking their singles and their bases and the rest of the lineup isn't finding ways to get it done.

[TedWilliams101]

Theo is a f***ing moron. The only thing that comes out of his mouth is s***, and it stinks.

[schillingouttheks]

Dice gets the loss while giving up 3 runs. Memo to Sox pitchers' date=' you have to pitch shutouts to get [b']a no decision[/b]. You'll never get run support nowadays

 

Fixed in bold.

[riverside sluggers]

Bob Ryan is a dunce

 

Ok Sox fans, you were all giddy when you had a 15 game lead. But are you more happy now that its turned into a pennant race? We'll discuss

[example1]

Okay, look at it this way.

 

Right now the Red Sox are 56-39. The Yankees are 48-45.

We all know that teams play in streaks. The Yankees that are winning now are the same CHUMPS (yeah, jacksonianmarch, they're chumps) that were losing game after game earlier in the season. I know the Sox look like s*** right now. Each season, every team looks like s*** for spells.

 

We talk about trading players, but we all stop short because there aren't a lot of places to put new pieces. That's a GOOD thing. We like these guys when they're hot, we don't when they're not. I see no reason this team can't win 5 or 6 games in a row against these opponents, and have the Yankees suddenly start losing. Yet another ebb-and-flow of a once 14 game lead. it's optimistic, but the Sox are getting hits, they're drawing walks, they're pitching pretty well, they're just losing in close games. FORTUNATELY, they have a big lead while they are going through the worst losing streak of the season. That might be their saving grace.

[schillingouttheks]

example, this is not a losing streak. This has become routine. They've been playing sub-.500 baseball for almost as long as they had been playing out of their minds. What is it now? 20-23 since June 1st? That's not just a bad slump...that's f***ing pathetic. This is too long to be a slump. This team needs help.

 

I've never been so uncertain about a game in which Beckett is starting. Is a win tomorrow too much to ask? Contreras vs. Beckett. Please f***ing win, douchebags.

[riverside sluggers]

Theyve been getting hits and drawing walks by the barrel full for over a month now, something shouldve clicked by now. Im sorry but this team needs a big trade

 

Contreras vs Beckett

Danks vs Gabbard

Garland vs Wakefield

 

I really wont be surprised if Sox lose 3 out of 4 or even get swept in deadly fashion by the slumping White Sox. then theyll skip on over to the juggernaut Guardians

 

EDIT: Julio on the post game report

 

Frustrated? We're not frustrated at all. Why should we be? We have a big lead. You win some, you lose some

 

Ok count 1 to 10... that didnt work. Lugo youre finally heating up so youre exhuding confidence from me, but... dont act cocky about a 7 game lead especially where your team is headed. I see no sense of urgency, I see no heart from this offense

 

You win some, you lose some? In the words of Charlie Brown... good grief!

[a700hitter]

Okay, look at it this way.

 

Right now the Red Sox are 56-39. The Yankees are 48-45.

We all know that teams play in streaks. The Yankees that are winning now are the same CHUMPS (yeah, jacksonianmarch, they're chumps) that were losing game after game earlier in the season. I know the Sox look like s*** right now. Each season, every team looks like s*** for spells.

Is this a slump or is this a team that was playing over its head for two months that first leveled off and now is falling apart?

[example1]

example, this is not a losing streak. This has become routine. They've been playing sub-.500 baseball for almost as long as they had been playing out of their minds. What is it now? 20-23 since June 1st? That's not just a bad slump...that's f***ing pathetic. This is too long to be a slump. This team needs help.

 

I've never been so uncertain about a game in which Beckett is starting. Is a win tomorrow too much to ask? Contreras vs. Beckett. Please f***ing win, douchebags.

 

Since when is a team playing BARELY sub.500 baseball for 2 months grounds for dismissal from the pennant race? I mean, c'mon. I understand that this team needs changes; we've all written about that ad nauseum. None of us can pinpoint those changes. Also, none of us can pinpoint ANYTHING about who is really available. Who the hell knows?

 

Would you put it past this team to put up 9 runs tomorrow? At some point it will swing the other way. I'm not basing it purely on blind faith, a lot of guys are under producing right now. When that happened to the yankees they played poorly (i.e., A-Rod carried them).

 

I just think it is naieve and shortsighted to give up on this team right now. Some moves definitely need to be made, but I remain optimistic. Look back at the 2004 team for awhile. They got to some pretty low places, with tons of infighting and arguing and daily speculation about which move needs to be made, and which starter needs to sit.

 

It is a LONG season. Does anyone expect this team to be .500 over the next almost 80 games? Every team will have ups and downs, but the best time to get hot when you have a lead is down the stretch.

[riverside sluggers]

This year the Sox are 56-39, last year the Sox were 59-36 at this point. Last year's team is currently 3 games better than whatever this version is

 

Yes the 2004 Sox did have bumps and bruises but I dont believe they had this kind of horrendous offensive slump

 

Does anyone expect this team to be .500 over the next almost 80 games?

 

Dont they have 67 games remaining?

[msubulldogs21]

I've never been so uncertain about a game in which Beckett is starting. Is a win tomorrow too much to ask? Contreras vs. Beckett. Please f***ing win' date=' douchebags.[/quote']

 

If we don't win tomorrow with Beckett on the mound then I really don't know what to say. I mean, if we can't get a win out of Beckett, who can we depend on?

 

Right now he's the only SP I really feel comfortable seeing on the mound, although last time out he pitched very good and still got the loss due to an incompetent offense.

[example1]

Is this a slump or is this a team that was playing over its head for two months that first leveled off and now is falling apart?

 

Well, their expected W-L is 57-38 (vs. actual 56-39)

The Yankees expected W-L is 55-38 (vs. actual 48-45)

 

Perhaps it is the Yankees who have been playing UNDER their head, and their ascention toward the red sox is a reflection of the fact that they have a tremendous team. The Sox are currently around where the Wild Card teams are, and everyone acknowledges how strong the AL Central is. To be "down with" Cleveland is not an insult. They have a really solid team. To be competing with the Yankees at this point is not an insult. To be SEVEN games ahead of them is not an insult or unfortunate by any stretch.

 

If someone offered me a 7 game lead 95 games into the season I would take it, whether it had fallen from 14 or had slowly grown from a 2-4 game oscilation. I think this is a 95-100 win team. I think that is damn good. I see no reason they won't be able to play well down the stretch, or add some key pieces given their nice minor league system and some useful MLB players, and money that can be thrown into a team.

 

I hope they are willing to pull the trigger on something that will have an impact.

[riverside sluggers]

I'll eat my own hat if this team goes 44-23 the rest of the way to finish with a 100 win season

[Gom]

I can't believe how much you guys are panicking. You have the largest lead ov any division leader, and if one was to listen to you guys, you might as well pack it in.

 

Did you guys really expect the Yankees to finish under .500 this year? Even with a decent run, we con't catch you guys. Even if we do, we have an absolutely killer August, which will probably throw us under the bus.

[riverside sluggers]

Sox dont have a tough schedule in August? 19 of their 28 games are away from Fenway Park

[jacksonianmarch]

Okay, look at it this way.

 

Right now the Red Sox are 56-39. The Yankees are 48-45.

We all know that teams play in streaks. The Yankees that are winning now are the same CHUMPS (yeah, jacksonianmarch, they're chumps) that were losing game after game earlier in the season. I know the Sox look like s*** right now. Each season, every team looks like s*** for spells.

 

We talk about trading players, but we all stop short because there aren't a lot of places to put new pieces. That's a GOOD thing. We like these guys when they're hot, we don't when they're not. I see no reason this team can't win 5 or 6 games in a row against these opponents, and have the Yankees suddenly start losing. Yet another ebb-and-flow of a once 14 game lead. it's optimistic, but the Sox are getting hits, they're drawing walks, they're pitching pretty well, they're just losing in close games. FORTUNATELY, they have a big lead while they are going through the worst losing streak of the season. That might be their saving grace.

 

 

I think the chumps on the yankees still exist, and I wouldnt be terribly surprised if they went into a hole. But as I said before, I was upset with the yankees because they would have stretches of having parts of their game look solid while other parts failed. Solid offense with s***** pitching. Solid pitching with s***** offense. Solid pitching and offense, s***** bullpen. And worst of all, aside from ARod, no clutch hitters and nobody seemed to be healthy. Over the recent stretch, the pen has improved, so the leads have been kept. Over the recent stretch, the offense has still sputtered, but we have been getting the hits with RISP. And most importantly, 4 out of every 5 starters seem to be keeping us in the game. Imagine what could happen if the slumping players like Damon, Abreu, and Cano actually turn it on. The yankees have room for improvement, IMO and so long as their pitching doesnt take a hit, should be able to sustain a certain amount of success. Now, I dont expect them to continue playing .700 ball, but you see my point.

 

With the sox, their offense certainly could improve. No clutch hits, and surprisingly, absolutely no power. Last night you had what, 1 EBH? At the same time, I think Francona has killed your offense by putting players in spots where they wont succeed. Youk in the 5 hole is a joke. He's a 2 hitter and doesnt have enough power to make people pitch to Ortiz and Manny. This is causing Manny to chase pitches and the line continues from there. Your offense has the capability to rebound, so in that respect, Theo is correct.

 

But the most stabilizing force on your team over your 50 game run (when you were 35-15) was your rotation. And that is no longer the case. You have Beckett, who has pitched okay over the last month and a half (4.1ERA) and DiceK who has been hot/cold. Now if you had both of those guys in a rotation with an effective Schilling and a hot Wakefield, then they would be wonderful. But when you lean on them to be the only consistent source of stability, panic will ensue. Like I have said multiple times, if you dont upgrade your rotation, that back end will be a killer. And if Schilling returns as an inconsistent shell of himself, just like when he went on the DL, he wont be helping. Wakefield has been more cold than hot, Tavarez has been awful, and Gabbard has been lucky sans his last start (you cannot expect to get by on a 1.5 WHIP for too long without getting burned).

 

SO, even though you may not think it, I think the yankees are more equipped right now to hang in this race. Now you have the lead, no doubt, and you earned it while we slogged through our doldrums. But your rotation as constitued will continue to put serious strain on your offense and pen, a strain that will eventually lead to meltdown. Because when you have a 2 man rotation with 3 pieces of s*** at the end, you absolutely need them to win all of their starts, and unless you have Spahn and Koufax on the hill, that aint happening.

[a700hitter]

This year the Sox are 56-39, last year the Sox were 59-36 at this point. Last year's team is currently 3 games better than whatever this version is

 

This is very scary. Look how last year turned out.

[Khan]

Since when is a team playing BARELY sub.500 baseball for 2 months grounds for dismissal from the pennant race? I mean' date=' c'mon. I understand that this team needs changes; we've all written about that ad nauseum. None of us can pinpoint those changes. Also, none of us can pinpoint ANYTHING about who is really available. Who the hell knows?[/quote']

 

Changes, I'm going with a full frontal labotomy for the starting nine. They looked dead last night. After the second knockdown of a Sox batter, I was looking for a riot or something to jump start those guys, but no. If their is a silver llining then baseball being streaky, perhaps they'll heatupdown the stretch. Or will it be another classic Sox case of too little too late.

 

I was really looking for Riceman/Diceman to earn his keep with a stellar outing. Good job Rice.

[mtbykr]

This team needs to remember how to stay loose. All of them are pressing right now and it's boiling over. I guess i will never understand why theo and the trio thought it better to go away from the loose idiot attitude to the "pro" attitude.