Papelbons Filthy

seabeachfred · June 25, 2007

You suck at math.

Papelbon has 5 saves in 5 innings vs the NL West. 8 Ks. 2 hits. No BB. 0.00 ERA

Over the latest interleague matchups vs Toronto and Tampa Bay, Saito has 5Ks in 3 innings, 2 hits, no BBs, 0.00 ERA.

I realize the one game that makes any difference is when Matt Stairs golfed a solo shot off a Saito pitch in the dirt.

Saito is a very solid closer, no doubt about that--and he has done some of his best work against the Giants and Padres. However, you cannot be real and try and tell any of us that you would take him over Papelbon. You cannot be serious.

Metropolitan Cowboy · June 25, 2007

The Dodgers? Even though I predicted they would win the West, it looks like improved teams like Colorado and Arizona are in the race to stay, and the Padres are as great an overachieving team as there is.

Did you find this breaking news on SI.com or ESPN.com?

Rdsxmbnt · June 25, 2007

You suck at math.

Papelbon has 5 saves in 5 innings vs the NL West. 8 Ks. 2 hits. No BB. 0.00 ERA

Over the latest interleague matchups vs Toronto and Tampa Bay, Saito has 5Ks in 3 innings, 2 hits, no BBs, 0.00 ERA.

I realize the one game that makes any difference is when Matt Stairs golfed a solo shot off a Saito pitch in the dirt.

My bad :rolleyes: , point still stands since that only makes Papelbon look more dominant. And I think the game where Saito blew a save vs. an AL East opponent should stand, or are we selectively choosing which games to include or exclude? In which case I'd like Papelbon's 2 runs vs. OAK removed from the records which brings his ERA down to 0.98.

seabeachfred · June 25, 2007

Papsmear? Middle school-ish nicknames for players is just sad

Riverside, grin and bear it. yeszir let these guys on the board to avoid a "war". You either go along to get along or get out. Sad, but that's the way it is. Hopefully, the better angels of their nature will take over and we can have some real baseball arguments and none of the petty s*** that we've seen.

seabeachfred · June 25, 2007

After the 6/22 performance.....

Holy s***, the guy is just filthy. I am glad we have the best closer in baseball pitching on our side. He is just absolutely filthy. Fastball 88-96 with good location, and 2 absolutely filthy Mr. Splits. After every swing and miss, or every painted strike on the outside black I sit there and think....OMG they had no effin chance. I cant think of another time I felt this way about a closer in Boston. Flash had his run, but not this kind of dominance.

Thoughts?

Chin, I was there watching Papelbon Friday and Sunday and you see it as it is. The guy is absolutely unreal. That last pitch to Adrian Gonzales on Friday just disappeared when it got to the plate. Adrian missed it by a foot. No s***!!!! I know some of the Dodger crowd here are talking up Saito and he is a good closer, a very good one. No one, however, is in Papelbon's class---and to think he is only 26 years old and wants to close for his whole career. Hell, he hasn't even entered his prime years yet. :D :D :D

Metropolitan Cowboy · June 25, 2007

Chin' date=' I was there watching Papelbon Friday and Sunday and you see it as it is. The guy is absolutely unreal. That last pitch to Adrian Gonzales on Friday just disappeared when it got to the plate. Adrian missed it by a foot. No s***!!!! I know some of the Dodger crowd here are talking up Saito and he is a good closer, a very good one. No one, however, is in Papelbon's class---and to think he is only 26 years old and wants to close for his whole career. Hell, he hasn't even entered his prime years yet. :D :D :D [/quote']

Ever hear of this guy Gagne? Are you saying Pape is going to win the Cy Young this year?

seabeachfred · June 25, 2007

Did you find this breaking news on SI.com or ESPN.com?

You don't sound like you're worried a bit. Worry. Worry very badly. What is it? Four in Arizona and three at home against the Padres? You blow these two series and you might yourselves up s*** creek.

seabeachfred · June 25, 2007

Ever hear of this guy Gagne? Are you saying Pape is going to win the Cy Young this year?

Why don't you read the post as is written and not try to insinuate any hidden meanings. I'm talking about the here and now. Are you honestly trying to compare Gagne with Papelbon at the present time? You're not that nuts. Gagne a few years ago was the best around. He is no longer that; his arm, elbow and legs have given him nothing but trouble the past few years. Red Sox fans worry that Papelbon could go the same way, but he takes better care of himself than Eric did. No pot belly and better conditioning and eating habits if you care to know.

Metropolitan Cowboy · June 25, 2007

You don't sound like you're worried a bit. Worry. Worry very badly. What is it? Four in Arizona and three at home against the Padres? You blow these two series and you might yourselves up s*** creek.

Should I follow your lead and pick a winning team if my team is not doing well?

seabeachfred · June 25, 2007

Should I follow your lead and pick a winning team if my team is not doing well?

Save it!!!!!! No one except maybe Crespo believe that s*** around here. I follow my Red Sox all over the country and have been making trips for the last six-plus seasons. I wonder how many times you go to Dodger Stadium to see your club. So cut the crap about bandwagon ********. No one is buying it.

SCM33 · June 25, 2007

Should I follow your lead and pick a winning team if my team is not doing well?

God I wish all of the dodgerblue guys would just get banned. I am sick of them always comparing us to them, and our league to theirs.

Who gives a f***ing s***. We are not Dodgers fans, nor do we give a s*** about the NL West. This forum is the REDSOX talk designated forum. There is a general baseball forum for you to discuss your s***** Dodgers.

This thread is to discuss Papelbon.....not Saito, not the Dodgers not who faced who. If you wanna debate the closers.....make another thread and stop trashing this one.

I dont get why all these trolls can just say whatever they want. If I did this s*** on another teams fan forum, which I wouldnt anyway because the realities of a real meaningful life take away from my MLB blogging time....I would beimmediately banned.

I lurk at NYYfans.com......when a guy goes on their page and makes a single unruly comment he is instantly banned.

Back to Papelbon talk please...

ksushi · June 25, 2007

Part of the Dodger Blues deal is that you guy's can't derail all threads and turn them into Dodgers threads. There's basically no link between the Sox and Dodgers. A thread about Papelbon shouldn't turn into a thread about Saito.

Re-posting this as a reminder. You've already been told once by Yeszir.

This isn't a thread about Saito. Lets cool it. This is a thread about Papelbon in the Sox forum. General baseball is where dodgers stuff belongs, if you wanna continue the debate, make a thread there but as far as this thread is concerned leave it alone.

seabeachfred · June 25, 2007

God I wish all of the dodgerblue guys would just get banned. I am sick of them always comparing us to them, and our league to theirs.

Who gives a f***ing s***. We are not Dodgers fans, nor do we give a s*** about the NL West. This forum is the REDSOX talk designated forum. There is a general baseball forum for you to discuss your s***** Dodgers.

This thread is to discuss Papelbon.....not Saito, not the Dodgers not who faced who. If you wanna debate the closers.....make another thread and stop trashing this one.

I dont get why all these trolls can just say whatever they want. If I did this s*** on another teams fan forum, which I wouldnt anyway because the realities of a real meaningful life take away from my MLB blogging time....I would beimmediately banned.

I lurk at NYYfans.com......when a guy goes on their page and makes a single unruly comment he is instantly banned.

Back to Papelbon talk please...

Chin, unfortunately you are wasting your time and typing fingers. Those DB guys were let on because they threatened to cause havoc if we didn't let them on and now the genee is out of the bottle. I don't know why yeszir did it but he did and we have to live with it or leave the board. I and others who challenged these guys on DB found that we were open season and not only us. They called my wife, daughter and grandaughter vile names and it was something that would not have been permitted or is permitted on any other board. Now some of them are here and many of them are here to cause nothing but trouble. It will be up to the rest of us to deal with them when they talk baseball but let them have it when they get personal or try to make this a shithole Dodger board.:thumbdown :thumbdown :thumbdown :thumbdown :thumbdown :thumbdown :thumbdown

YazsTripleCrown · June 25, 2007

Riverside' date=' grin and bear it. yeszir let these guys on the board to avoid a "war". You either go along to get along or get out. Sad, but that's the way it is. Hopefully, the better angels of their nature will take over and we can have some real baseball arguments and none of the petty s*** that we've seen.[/quote']

Fred, we are having a fine baseball argument here. We don't need your whining about yeszir to derail this debate.

CrespoBlows · June 25, 2007

Chin' date=' unfortunately you are wasting your time and typing fingers. Those DB guys were let on because they threatened to cause havoc if we didn't let them on and now the genee is out of the bottle. I don't know why yeszir did it but he did and we have to live with it or leave the board. I and others who challenged these guys on DB found that we were open season and not only us. They called my wife, daughter and grandaughter vile names and it was something that would not have been permitted or is permitted on any other board. Now some of them are here and many of them are here to cause nothing but trouble. It will be up to the rest of us to deal with them when they talk baseball but let them have it when they get personal or try to make this a shithole Dodger board.:thumbdown :thumbdown :thumbdown :thumbdown :thumbdown :thumbdown :thumbdown[/quote']

SHUT THE f*** UP!! YOU'VE SAID 50,000,000 TIMES THAT YOU WOULD STOP RESPONDING TO THEM, AND YOU DID IT AGAIN!!!

Metropolitan Cowboy · June 25, 2007

Save it!!!!!! No one except maybe Crespo believe that s*** around here. I follow my Red Sox all over the country and have been making trips for the last six-plus seasons. I wonder how many times you go to Dodger Stadium to see your club. So cut the crap about bandwagon ********. No one is buying it.

I make it to 30-40 games a year for the past 10 years, and I have rooted for the Dodgers 1982. How many teams did you root for during that that 25 year period?

CrespoBlows · June 25, 2007

I make it to 30-40 games a year for the past 10 years' date=' and I have rooted for the Dodgers 1982. How many teams did you root for during that that 25 year period?[/quote']

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Pittsburgh Pirates
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Altoona Mountain City (1884) 6-19 0.240 0-0
Baltimore Monumentals (1884) 58-47 0.552 0-0
Baltimore Orioles (1882-1899) 1133-1049 0.519 3-0
Baltimore Terrapins (1914-1915) 131-177 0.425 0-0
Boston Reds (1890-1891) 174-90 0.659 2-0
Boston Reds (1884) 58-51 0.532 0-0
Brooklyn Gladiators (1890) 26-73 0.263 0-0
Brooklyn Tip-Tops (1914-1915) 147-159 0.480 0-0
Brooklyn Ward's Wonders (1890) 76-56 0.576 0-0
Buffalo Bisons
Buffalo Blues and Buffalo Buffeds (1914-1915) 154-149 0.508 0-0
Buffalo Bisons (1890) 36-96 0.273 0-0
Buffalo Bisons (1879-1885) 314-333 0.485 0-0
Chicago Pirates (1890) 75-62 0.547 0-0
Chicago Whales
Chicago Chi-Feds (1914-1915) 173-133 0.565 1-0
Chicago/Pittsburgh (Union League) (1884) 41-50 0.451 0-0
Cincinnati Kelly's Killers (1891) 43-57 0.430 0-0
Cincinnati Outlaw Reds (1884) 69-36 0.657 0-0
Cincinnati Reds (1876-1880) 125-217 0.365 0-0
Cleveland Blues (1879-1884) 242-299 0.447 0-0
Cleveland Infants (1890) 55-75 0.423 0-0
Cleveland Spiders
Cleveland Blues (1887-1899) 827-938 0.469 0-0
Columbus Buckeyes (1883-1884) 101-104 0.493 0-0
Columbus Solons (1889-1891) 200-209 0.489 0-0
Detroit Wolverines (1881-1888) 426-437 0.494 1-0
Hartford Dark Blues (1876-1877) 78-48 0.619 0-0
Indianapolis Blues (1878) 24-36 0.400 0-0
Indianapolis Hoosiers (1887-1889) 146-249 0.370 0-0
Indianapolis Hoosiers (1884) 29-78 0.271 0-0
Kansas City Cowboys (1888-1889) 98-171 0.364 0-0
Kansas City Cowboys (1886) 30-91 0.248 0-0
Kansas City Cowboys (1884) 16-63 0.203 0-0
Kansas City Packers (1914-1915) 148-156 0.487 0-0
Louisville Colonels
Louisville Eclipse (1882-1899) 993-1320 0.429 1-0
Louisville Grays (1876-1877) 65-61 0.516 0-0
Milwaukee Brewers (1891) 21-15 0.583 0-0
Milwaukee Brewers (1884) 8-4 0.667 0-0
Milwaukee Grays (1878) 15-45 0.250 0-0
New York Giants (1890) 74-57 0.565 0-0
New York Metropolitans (1883-1887) 270-309 0.466 1-0
New York Mutuals (1876) 21-35 0.375 0-0
Newark Pepper
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Philadelphia Athletics (1890-1891) 141-129 0.522 0-0
Philadelphia Athletics (1882-1890) 560-498 0.529 1-0
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Philadelphia Keystones (1884) 21-46 0.313 0-0
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Pittsburgh Rebels (1914-1915) 150-153 0.495 0-0
Providence Grays (1878-1885) 438-278 0.612 2-0
Richmond Virginians (1884) 12-30 0.286 0-0
Rochester Broncos (1890) 63-63 0.500 0-0
St. Louis Brown Stockings (1876-1877) 73-51 0.589 0-0
St. Louis Maroons (1884-1886) 173-170 0.504 1-0
St. Louis Terriers (1914-1915) 149-156 0.489 0-0
St. Paul Apostles
St. Paul White Caps (1884) 2-6 0.250 0-0
Syracuse Stars (1890) 55-72 0.433 0-0
Syracuse Stars (1879) 22-48 0.314 0-0
Toledo Blue Stockings (1884) 46-58 0.442 0-0
Toledo Maumees (1890) 68-64 0.515 0-0
Troy Trojans (1879-1882) 134-191 0.412 0-0
Washington Nationals (1886-1889) 163-337 0.326 0-0
Washington Nationals (1884) 47-65 0.420 0-0
Washington Senators
Washington Statesmen (1891-1899) 454-788 0.366 0-0
Washington Statesmen
Washington Nationals (1884) 12-51 0.190 0-0
Wilmington Quicksteps (1884) 2-16 0.111 0-0
Worcester Ruby Legs

Baltimore Canaries (1872-1874) 78-79 0.497 0-0
Baltimore Marylands (1873) 0-6 0.000 0-0
Boston Red Stockings (1871-1875) 225-60 0.789 4-0
Brooklyn Atlantics (1872-1875) 50-140 0.263 0-0
Brooklyn Eckfords (1872) 3-26 0.103 0-0
Chicago White Stockings (1871-1875) 77-77 0.500 0-0
Cleveland Forest Citys (1871-1872) 16-35 0.314 0-0
Elizabeth Resolutes (1873) 2-21 0.087 0-0
Fort Wayne Kekiongas (1871) 7-12 0.368 0-0
Hartford Dark Blues (1874-1875) 70-65 0.519 0-0
Keokuk Westerns (1875) 1-12 0.077 0-0
Middletown Mansfields (1872) 5-19 0.208 0-0
New Haven Elm Citys (1875) 7-40 0.149 0-0
New York Mutuals (1871-1875) 151-122 0.553 0-0
Philadelphia Athletics (1871-1875) 165-86 0.657 1-0
Philadelphia Centennials (1875) 2-12 0.143 0-0
Philadelphia White Stockings
Philadelphia Whites (1873-1875) 102-77 0.570 0-0
Rockford Forest Citys (1871) 4-21 0.160 0-0
St. Louis Brown Stockings (1875) 39-29 0.574 0-0
St. Louis Red Stockings (1875) 4-15 0.211 0-0
Troy Haymakers (1871-1872) 28-25 0.528 0-0
Washington Blue Legs (1873) 8-31 0.205 0-0
Washington Nationals (1875) 5-23 0.179 0-0
Washington Nationals (1872) 0-11 0.000 0-0
Washington Olympics (1871-1872) 17-22 0.436 0-0

All of these.

Metropolitan Cowboy · June 25, 2007

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Boston Braves, see Atlanta Braves
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Brooklyn Dodgers, see Los Angeles Dodgers
California Angels, see Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim
Chicago Cubs
Chicago Orphans, Chicago Colts, and Chicago White Stockings (1876-2007) 9935-9421 0.513 16-2
Chicago White Sox (1901-2007) 8329-8134 0.506 6-3
Cincinnati Reds
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Cleveland Guardians
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Colorado Rockies (1993-2007) 1063-1217 0.466 0-0
Detroit Tigers (1901-2007) 8361-8146 0.507 10-4
Florida Marlins (1993-2007) 1077-1200 0.473 2-2
Houston Astros
Houston Colt .45's (1962-2007) 3611-3626 0.499 1-0
Kansas City Athletics, see Oakland Athletics
Kansas City Royals (1969-2007) 2964-3129 0.486 2-1
Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim
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Milwaukee Brewers (1901), see Baltimore Orioles
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Washington Senators (1901-2007) 7922-8549 0.481 6-3
Montreal Expos, see Washington Nationals
New York Giants, see San Francisco Giants
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New York Yankees
New York Highlanders and Baltimore Orioles (1901-2007) 9325-7131 0.567 39-26
Oakland Athletics
Kansas City Athletics and Philadelphia Athletics (1901-2007) 8002-8447 0.486 15-9
Philadelphia Athletics, see Oakland Athletics
Philadelphia Phillies
Philadelphia Blue Jays and Philadelphia Quakers (1883-2007) 8803-9991 0.468 5-1
Pittsburgh Pirates
Pittsburg Alleghenys (1882-2007) 9587-9335 0.507 9-5
San Diego Padres (1969-2007) 2823-3280 0.463 2-0
San Francisco Giants
New York Giants and New York Gothams (1883-2007) 10145-8675 0.539 20-5
Seattle Mariners (1977-2007) 2266-2541 0.471 0-0
Seattle Pilots, see Milwaukee Brewers
St. Louis Browns, see Baltimore Orioles
St. Louis Cardinals
St. Louis Perfectos, St. Louis Browns, and St. Louis Brown Stockings (1882-2007) 9798-9150 0.517 21-10
Tampa Bay Devil Rays (1998-2007) 612-916 0.401 0-0
Texas Rangers
Washington Senators (1961-2007) 3446-3934 0.467 0-0
Toronto Blue Jays (1977-2007) 2382-2427 0.495 2-2
Washington Nationals
Montreal Expos (1969-2007) 2939-3158 0.482 0-0
Washington Senators, see Minnesota Twins
Washington Senators, see Texas Rangers

Earlier Franchises
Click on a Team for team roster, statistics and leaders.
If a team has played in multiple cities or under multiples names, those are also listed.
Team Years Record Win % Pnnt-WS
Altoona Mountain City (1884) 6-19 0.240 0-0
Baltimore Monumentals (1884) 58-47 0.552 0-0
Baltimore Orioles (1882-1899) 1133-1049 0.519 3-0
Baltimore Terrapins (1914-1915) 131-177 0.425 0-0
Boston Reds (1890-1891) 174-90 0.659 2-0
Boston Reds (1884) 58-51 0.532 0-0
Brooklyn Gladiators (1890) 26-73 0.263 0-0
Brooklyn Tip-Tops (1914-1915) 147-159 0.480 0-0
Brooklyn Ward's Wonders (1890) 76-56 0.576 0-0
Buffalo Bisons
Buffalo Blues and Buffalo Buffeds (1914-1915) 154-149 0.508 0-0
Buffalo Bisons (1890) 36-96 0.273 0-0
Buffalo Bisons (1879-1885) 314-333 0.485 0-0
Chicago Pirates (1890) 75-62 0.547 0-0
Chicago Whales
Chicago Chi-Feds (1914-1915) 173-133 0.565 1-0
Chicago/Pittsburgh (Union League) (1884) 41-50 0.451 0-0
Cincinnati Kelly's Killers (1891) 43-57 0.430 0-0
Cincinnati Outlaw Reds (1884) 69-36 0.657 0-0
Cincinnati Reds (1876-1880) 125-217 0.365 0-0
Cleveland Blues (1879-1884) 242-299 0.447 0-0
Cleveland Infants (1890) 55-75 0.423 0-0
Cleveland Spiders
Cleveland Blues (1887-1899) 827-938 0.469 0-0
Columbus Buckeyes (1883-1884) 101-104 0.493 0-0
Columbus Solons (1889-1891) 200-209 0.489 0-0
Detroit Wolverines (1881-1888) 426-437 0.494 1-0
Hartford Dark Blues (1876-1877) 78-48 0.619 0-0
Indianapolis Blues (1878) 24-36 0.400 0-0
Indianapolis Hoosiers (1887-1889) 146-249 0.370 0-0
Indianapolis Hoosiers (1884) 29-78 0.271 0-0
Kansas City Cowboys (1888-1889) 98-171 0.364 0-0
Kansas City Cowboys (1886) 30-91 0.248 0-0
Kansas City Cowboys (1884) 16-63 0.203 0-0
Kansas City Packers (1914-1915) 148-156 0.487 0-0
Louisville Colonels
Louisville Eclipse (1882-1899) 993-1320 0.429 1-0
Louisville Grays (1876-1877) 65-61 0.516 0-0
Milwaukee Brewers (1891) 21-15 0.583 0-0
Milwaukee Brewers (1884) 8-4 0.667 0-0
Milwaukee Grays (1878) 15-45 0.250 0-0
New York Giants (1890) 74-57 0.565 0-0
New York Metropolitans (1883-1887) 270-309 0.466 1-0
New York Mutuals (1876) 21-35 0.375 0-0
Newark Pepper
Indianapolis Hoosiers (1914-1915) 168-137 0.551 1-0
Philadelphia Athletics (1890-1891) 141-129 0.522 0-0
Philadelphia Athletics (1882-1890) 560-498 0.529 1-0
Philadelphia Athletics (1876) 14-45 0.237 0-0
Philadelphia Keystones (1884) 21-46 0.313 0-0
Pittsburgh Burghers (1890) 60-68 0.469 0-0
Pittsburgh Rebels (1914-1915) 150-153 0.495 0-0
Providence Grays (1878-1885) 438-278 0.612 2-0
Richmond Virginians (1884) 12-30 0.286 0-0
Rochester Broncos (1890) 63-63 0.500 0-0
St. Louis Brown Stockings (1876-1877) 73-51 0.589 0-0
St. Louis Maroons (1884-1886) 173-170 0.504 1-0
St. Louis Terriers (1914-1915) 149-156 0.489 0-0
St. Paul Apostles
St. Paul White Caps (1884) 2-6 0.250 0-0
Syracuse Stars (1890) 55-72 0.433 0-0
Syracuse Stars (1879) 22-48 0.314 0-0
Toledo Blue Stockings (1884) 46-58 0.442 0-0
Toledo Maumees (1890) 68-64 0.515 0-0
Troy Trojans (1879-1882) 134-191 0.412 0-0
Washington Nationals (1886-1889) 163-337 0.326 0-0
Washington Nationals (1884) 47-65 0.420 0-0
Washington Senators
Washington Statesmen (1891-1899) 454-788 0.366 0-0
Washington Statesmen
Washington Nationals (1884) 12-51 0.190 0-0
Wilmington Quicksteps (1884) 2-16 0.111 0-0
Worcester Ruby Legs

Baltimore Canaries (1872-1874) 78-79 0.497 0-0
Baltimore Marylands (1873) 0-6 0.000 0-0
Boston Red Stockings (1871-1875) 225-60 0.789 4-0
Brooklyn Atlantics (1872-1875) 50-140 0.263 0-0
Brooklyn Eckfords (1872) 3-26 0.103 0-0
Chicago White Stockings (1871-1875) 77-77 0.500 0-0
Cleveland Forest Citys (1871-1872) 16-35 0.314 0-0
Elizabeth Resolutes (1873) 2-21 0.087 0-0
Fort Wayne Kekiongas (1871) 7-12 0.368 0-0
Hartford Dark Blues (1874-1875) 70-65 0.519 0-0
Keokuk Westerns (1875) 1-12 0.077 0-0
Middletown Mansfields (1872) 5-19 0.208 0-0
New Haven Elm Citys (1875) 7-40 0.149 0-0
New York Mutuals (1871-1875) 151-122 0.553 0-0
Philadelphia Athletics (1871-1875) 165-86 0.657 1-0
Philadelphia Centennials (1875) 2-12 0.143 0-0
Philadelphia White Stockings
Philadelphia Whites (1873-1875) 102-77 0.570 0-0
Rockford Forest Citys (1871) 4-21 0.160 0-0
St. Louis Brown Stockings (1875) 39-29 0.574 0-0
St. Louis Red Stockings (1875) 4-15 0.211 0-0
Troy Haymakers (1871-1872) 28-25 0.528 0-0
Washington Blue Legs (1873) 8-31 0.205 0-0
Washington Nationals (1875) 5-23 0.179 0-0
Washington Nationals (1872) 0-11 0.000 0-0
Washington Olympics (1871-1872) 17-22 0.436 0-0

All of these.

Looks like this is not the first time Fred has seen baseball in DC.

YazsTripleCrown · June 25, 2007

Save it!!!!!! No one except maybe Crespo believe that s*** around here. I follow my Red Sox all over the country and have been making trips for the last six-plus seasons. I wonder how many times you go to Dodger Stadium to see your club. So cut the crap about bandwagon ********. No one is buying it.

Fred, I didn't want to bring this up again, but your flip-flopping is legendary. Maybe people haven't figured it out here, but there are at least 10 other boards that you are a member of. We have seen you posting at Cubs sites, Yankees sites, Giants sites, Angels sites, etc -- showing your interest in those teams. Those sites have been linked on DB. We don't need to go on with this, but please stop the charade.

To get back to baseball, Papelbon is indeed a great closer. I am not disagreeing with that. I just think that Saito has matched him this year stat-for-stat, if not bettered him. Agree to disagree.

seabeachfred · June 25, 2007

Fred' date=' we are having a fine baseball argument here. We don't need your whining about yeszir to derail this debate.[/quote']

We're not here to talk about your friggin' Dodgers. You want to start a Dodger thread, go ahead. I'm sure the moderators won't mind, but most of our posters save for your convert friend Crespo don't find talking about your s*** team to be either pleasurable or uplifting. And for any of you to even intimate that Saito is in the same league with Papelbon, well, I knew some of you didn't know s*** for shinola about baseball, but you didn't have to be so blatent and prove it beyond a shadown of a doubt. And it isn't whining; Dodger fans do that between the third and seventh innings between running our for beer and hot dogs. It is called ranting and we don't want to hear about the Dodgers. Save it for Dodger Blues.

Metropolitan Cowboy · June 25, 2007

We're not here to talk about your friggin' Dodgers. You want to start a Dodger thread' date=' go ahead. I'm sure the moderators won't mind, but most of our posters save for your convert friend Crespo don't find talking about your s*** team to be either pleasurable or uplifting. And for any of you to even intimate that Saito is in the same league with Papelbon, well, I knew some of you didn't know s*** for shinola about baseball, but you didn't have to be so blatent and prove it beyond a shadown of a doubt. And it isn't whining; Dodger fans do that between the third and seventh innings between running our for beer and hot dogs. It is called ranting and we don't want to hear about the Dodgers. Save it for Dodger Blues.[/quote']

This thread would have stayed baseball if Fred would have stayed out of it. btw, if Fred has been a fan for the Sox for only the past 6 years then that mean he has only followed the team for 5% of his life.

ksushi · June 25, 2007

This thread absolutely sucks. This is ridiculous, I see no reason to leave this open.

schillingouttheks · June 26, 2007

Chin' date=' unfortunately you are wasting your time and typing fingers. Those DB guys were let on because they threatened to cause havoc if we didn't let them on and now the genee is out of the bottle. I don't know why yeszir did it but he did and we have to live with it or leave the board. I and others who challenged these guys on DB found that we were open season and not only us. They called my wife, daughter and grandaughter vile names and it was something that would not have been permitted or is permitted on any other board. Now some of them are here and many of them are here to cause nothing but trouble. It will be up to the rest of us to deal with them when they talk baseball but let them have it when they get personal or try to make this a shithole Dodger board.:thumbdown :thumbdown :thumbdown :thumbdown :thumbdown :thumbdown :thumbdown[/quote']

Since you can't read what Crespo said because you ignored him...

STOP RESPONDING TO THEM. YOU'VE SAID YOU'LL STOP 50,000,000 TIMES BUT YOU ALWAYS TALK s*** ABOUT THEM EVEN IF IT'S INDIRECTLY. STOP TALKING ABOUT DB. KTHXBI.

EDIT: Oh wait, the thread's closed He can still see it though. And yes, this thread sucks.