Rocket on the Block?

[Red Sox Rulz]

Well its obvious that the Red Sox are very interest in Roger and most of the Astros FO agrees with moving him, except for Drayton McLane. If McLane changes his mind in a couple of weeks, any shot that the Sox could get Clemens through a waiver deal?

I believe the rules state we must give up a minor leauger,based upon his performance.Correct me if I'm wrong.

[SoxFan25]

id take roger clemens on this staff in a heartbeat, but...for the right price.

cant find the right price, then whatever so be it, forget him.

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

There are some real grumblings coming out of Houston surrounding the trade deadline. Apparently some players are angry at management. I'd be interested to see what happens when Clemens gets his next start and the Astros score 1 run.

 

If Clemens is placed on waivers....the Yankees can block it but does that mean they would get him?? There is a chance (possibly today?) that we could fall out of first place and get Clemens.

 

This continues to be a pipe dream and in a way...I can't wait for Roger to move on so we don't have to think about it.

[ORS]

No way we get Clemens. First, every NL team has rights to claim him before any AL team does. Second, every AL team with a record worse than ours has rights before we do. Too many contenders that could use a good pitcher stand in the way.

[MC Hammer]

No way we get Clemens. First, every NL team has rights to claim him before any AL team does. Second, every AL team with a record worse than ours has rights before we do. Too many contenders that could use a good pitcher stand in the way.

Yes, but I don't think the vast majority of those teams could/would take on his contract.

[Mr Crunchy]

No way we get Clemens. First, every NL team has rights to claim him before any AL team does. Second, every AL team with a record worse than ours has rights before we do. Too many contenders that could use a good pitcher stand in the way.

 

good points,all of them

 

1st off eliminate all teams who wont make the playoffs

then consider the teams that are still alive having salary issues of their own and once again we're left with

boston ny maybe st louis and perhaps a couple west coast teams

now how does this come into play with the waiver wire??

 

im not sure

he does have to clear all the above hurdles before boston or ny get a pop at him and if they block a move to boston he may very well retire as is

 

it was always about the money with roger clemens and now he can enjoy his extra few mill as his team continues to show how much they care for him by getting shut out in 4 of his 8 starts as theyre myred at the bottom of the wild card race..

 

poetic justice my friends

[ORS]

Yes, but I don't think the vast majority of those teams could/would take on his contract.

Mets, Cards, and Dodgers are all in the hunt, and loaded with cash. He doesn't make it out of the NL.

[Mr Crunchy]

ya but would he pitch there

[Red Sox Rulz]

Mets, Cards, and Dodgers are all in the hunt, and loaded with cash. He doesn't make it out of the NL.

We'd do well to find a way to get Chris Young from San Diego.

[CrespoBlows]

No way we get Clemens. First, every NL team has rights to claim him before any AL team does. Second, every AL team with a record worse than ours has rights before we do. Too many contenders that could use a good pitcher stand in the way.

 

Doesn't he have a NTC? I'd think he'd rather retire then pitch for the Cardinals.

[ORS]

I don't think he'd go to any of those places. However, I don't think any of them make nice to let us get him.

 

We'd do well to find a way to get Chris Young from San Diego.

He doesn't make it out of his division when the waiver rules apply.

 

We aren't getting a good pitcher via the waiver wire. Pray for Boomer's knee and Wake's rib -- they are our best shots at improving the rotation, IMO.

[ImissPedro]

Whoever said he wanted to leave Texas anyway? I'm not quite sure where this rumor emanates from, inform me if you know where this came from.

[SCM33]

Yes, but I don't think the vast majority of those teams could/would take on his contract.

 

 

Even if he were to make it out of the NL claiming spree....there is no way in hell the Yankees dont put in a claim for him...

 

Here is a question though, lets say that nobody puts in a claim for him and he slips to the Sox and Yankees but both teams are tied for the division lead, and both teams put in a claim for him. What happens then? Do they look at head to head games, or do they look at win loss records within the league (not counting the interleague games). I think that is a pretty interesting topic, can anyone shed some light on this situation, even if it is a pipedream?

[ORS]

Right now, the Yankees are in first by percentage points, so they can't block. I think a tie-breaker would be based on how they finished last year. I don't know this, but the waiver hierarchy for the first 30 days of the season is established by that, so I would imagine that would be it.

[Sox Fan on Cape]

Right now, the Yankees are in first by percentage points, so they can't block. I think a tie-breaker would be based on how they finished last year. I don't know this, but the waiver hierarchy for the first 30 days of the season is established by that, so I would imagine that would be it.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong. But, if Houston puts him on waivers and he clears, then they are free to trade him. If he's claimed, they can pull him back. Putting him on waivers, would indicate that they are willing to make a deal and answer the question about clearing waivers once and for all with no risk to them. Since they have not done this, it would seem they have no interest in moving him.

[ORS]

Yeah, you are right, once a player has cleared waivers, then the team is free to trade him to whoever they want. If somebody other than the intended trading team claims him, then they can recall him from waivers. Putting him on waivers could indicate a willingness to trade him, however, a lot of times teams will put several players on waivers to muddle the pool. They have no intention of trading some of those they put on waivers, so it's tough to say what a team wants to do once someone clears.

[americanoutlaw]

myself said they ask for too much on the rocket

 

if it was a package deal of Roy Oswalt ,Brad Lidge and the rocket i would be a little bit willing to give them up

[Papelbon58]

Maybe you guys have heard that the Hartford Courant is reporting that Clemens is still interested in playing for the Red Sox and could be back with us next year. It still seems a bit unlikely to me, but the thought excites me. Anybody else feel the same?

[Cityofchampions33]

The guys still amazin on the mound, id say thats a pretty good offseason acquirement, though we should focus on younge players as well

[Anuj09]

ehh give him a contract for a year as stop gate for Buchholtz

[HeadOfSoxNation]

If Clemens is in ANY way available, you've gotta get him. The Astros won't be looking for anything huge from him, maybe a couple of low to mid level guys...I'd certainly do it. Clemens has always been awesome with taking young guys under his wing and showing him the ropes, he'd be a great presence with Schill to have for one year.

[a700hitter]

Why would the Sox have to give up any prospects to Houston? I thought he was signed only to the end of the year.

[jsinger121]

He is a free agent but the only thing that may needed to be given up is a draft selection if the astros offer arbitration.

[a700hitter]

The Astros would not risk the offer of arbitration. They didn't offer him arbitration last year, because they were afraid that they would get nailed for $18-20 million in arbitration. If they offer him arbitration, Clemens will be back with the Astros.

[HeadOfSoxNation]

My mistake...the way I understood it was that they signed Clemens for 1 year...which wouldn't make him a free agent until a couple of months into the season...a situation that I have never heard of before. You've gotta go after him, then. I wonder how much they'll look to sign him for? He was making like 20 this year, right?

[schillingouttheks]

Yes, but if it means coming back to Boston he may take the opportunity to pitch here for one more season even at a lower rate. He's already made enough money (like every single human being would want to do), and after all the millions he's collected he could probably still make 4-5 million this year with the Sox. I wouldn't pass on that if I were him. Though, I'm sure Steiny will offer him a nice sum of money to go finish his career in New York. We'll see, though.

 

Like I said in a previous thread though, he would be one hell of a stopgap for Buchholz in '08.

[ARod2212]

For whatever reason, I think Clemens would rather pitch in Boston in 2007 as opposed to the Bronx. Personally, I'd like to see #46 come back to the Bronx for another playoff run. I trust him about 900x more than Randy Johnson.

[example1]

Yes, but if it means coming back to Boston he may take the opportunity to pitch here for one more season even at a lower rate. He's already made enough money (like every single human being would want to do), and after all the millions he's collected he could probably still make 4-5 million this year with the Sox. I wouldn't pass on that if I were him. Though, I'm sure Steiny will offer him a nice sum of money to go finish his career in New York. We'll see, though.

 

Like I said in a previous thread though, he would be one hell of a stopgap for Buchholz in '08.

 

only 4-5 million for Clemens? I doubt it.

[schillingouttheks]

Well, I've met the man and I've had a few talks with him on various occasions. He's not as greedy as he's made out to be. He's actually one of the nicest people I've ever met. Not to mention that he has said that he would like to pitch in Boston once more.

 

If I met the real Roger Clemens, then 4-5 mill isn't out of the question for his final year of his career in Boston.

[MANNYHOF24]

For whatever reason' date=' I think Clemens would rather pitch in Boston in 2007 as opposed to the Bronx. Personally, I'd like to see #46 come back to the Bronx for another playoff run. I trust him about 900x more than Randy Johnson.[/quote']

 

Is # 46 andy pettite?