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If numbers tell you that the Yankees cant hit 95 MPH or faster, that doesnt mean your staff can throw it. That's why you have scouts, to chart a gameplan you can actually use. (Simple example I know)

 

 

 

We had better pitchers than the Cardinals in 04, but pitchers dont pitch against each other. They shut us down fairly well too, it was just that our pitching was dominant.

 

If you havent figured out my second paragraph from my earlier posts, than I am done trying to explain it.

 

Of course I would use a pitcher who had a better probability of success, what I wouldnt do is assume that my RHP would shut down a statistically weak hitting RHP lineup. Every pitcher is different, and a scout who has seen a team/player could tell you if that probability holds with my pitcher.

 

Another simple example, lefties crush righties, but there is always that righty who flips the table because of the movement on his pitches.

 

Ok, when did I say I was against scouting? When I look at our prospects I always look at the scouting report first. But the scouting report does not translate production trends. It's simply observational. No sabermetrician will sit here and deem scouting obsolete, nobody. As for the 2004 World Series sample, there wasn't really any sample size to judge our hitters against their pitchers, because the Cardinals don't play the Red Sox nineteen times in the regular season as the Yankees do so you can't really play a numbers/probability game.

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QFT...

 

I couldn't agree with you more. When I would discuss baseball in the past with people, it would be about who had the best looking swing, who had the best follow etc. Nowadays, it's all about someone's RISP with a 1 run lead and after the 7th inning, which I think is a stat called CL. It might work for some people, but personally it's information overload IMO and takes the fun out of it.

 

Welcome to the Information Age my friend.

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Amen to that Yazsir.

 

 

I too was a member of SoSH for about 4 years, thousands of posts etc. The problem with the site was half the crowd said " We miss the good old days of SoSH". " Lets change it and make it different" Chasing their tails trying to organize , reshape, reformat, changing the rules. On and on.

 

It got tired for me. Trying to cookie cutter and control how and why people post on a freakin Internet MESSAGE board is just beyond ridiculous.

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We should come up with our own way of evaluating players.:thumbsup:

 

There are many ways to analyze a player, I think people should be open to all of them. Stats are great, but like I said....generally you can tell what a player is doing wrong, or how they will perform by watching them. Stats will tell you if they are currently succeeding, but how they swing, their arm slot, their front shoulder, their footwork and their reads on balls tell you alot more about the player as a whole.

 

Stats can project a trend before the masses can come to the same conclusion which definately helps the front office in making a personnel decision. Nobody ever said that stats could show how a player swings, or what their arm slot is, thats for physics. :D

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Talksox is superior to all other message boards. We all get along here. It's like one big family. :D

May I direct you to fights and crap? ;)

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