Crisp Signs 3-Year Extension

[riverside sluggers]

Even though it was guaranteed that Crisp would be arbitration eligible, the Sox FO avoided all that and extended his contract through 2010. If Beckett continues to pitch the way he does and stays healthy, an extension for him shouldnt be that far off as well :thumbsup:

 

Rotoworld: Red Sox agreed to terms with outfielder Coco Crisp on a three-year contract extension with a club option for 2010.

Terms of the deal have not been disclosed. The option covers his first year of free agency. It's an oddly timed extension with Crisp going on the disabled list earlier this week. Still, Crisp is young and already a very good player, so locking him up through his age-30 season is a good investment.

 

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2006/04/12/red_sox_sign_crisp_to_3_year_extension/

[ORS]

Good move. I already like Coco, and I see him a part of the future core. Treat him well now, and he might treat the FO well in the future when he hits the market. The naysayers who say this FO is cheap and doesn't respect players need to eat some crow right about now after the Ortiz and Crisp extensions.

[a700hitter]

Good move. I already like Coco, and I see him a part of the future core. Treat him well now, and he might treat the FO well in the future when he hits the market. The naysayers who say this FO is cheap and doesn't respect players need to eat some crow right about now after the Ortiz and Crisp extensions.

I would not count on that. The FO gave Nomar a 7-year deal before he was eligible for arbitration, and it bought them no special consideration from Nomar at Free Agent time.

[Sox Fan on Cape]

I would not count on that. The FO gave Nomar a 7-year deal before he was eligible for arbitration, and it bought them no special consideration from Nomar at Free Agent time.

Are you this negative about everything ? You've been around the block a few times and certainly seem like a Sox fan, why do you have a negative response ( or it seems like it ) most of the time. Enjoy the moment, its not your money.

[ORS]

I would not count on that. The FO gave Nomar a 7-year deal before he was eligible for arbitration, and it bought them no special consideration from Nomar at Free Agent time.

Different FOs were on either end of Nomar's deal. I'm sure the fact that the new ownership group tried to trade him in the offseason had a lot to do with his rejection of their $60M deal. I'll also bet he's kicking himself every day for not taking that deal.

[Cityofchampions33]

I think this is a smart deal, though i think we'll wait on beckett at elast until the end f the season, to see how his blister/shoudler problem progresses. If ehd eos good though, expect him to get some big money.

[jsinger121]

Great deal for Coco....now just get healthy as quickly as possible.

[Optimist]

Is there a clause restricting head first slides?

[kreinbihl34]

No but there is one about how he has to be able to throw home without 214473 bounces.

[Optimist]

No but there is one about how he has to be able to throw home without 214473 bounces.

 

You get an "A" for effort.

[TheRivernator]

I think this deal was a bit premature. He has to prove that he can play through criticism and can handle the pressure of the fens before you extend him. He hasnt even stepped foot in fenway and has not had to face any criticism yet. We'll see what he is made of when he returns and if he struggles....

[a700hitter]

Different FOs were on either end of Nomar's deal. I'm sure the fact that the new ownership group tried to trade him in the offseason had a lot to do with his rejection of their $60M deal. I'll also bet he's kicking himself every day for not taking that deal.

They tried to trade him because he gave ownership no indication that he wanted to stay. Never once did he say that he wanted to stay in Boston until the ARod deal was being negotiated.

[ARod2212]

I don't think it's a good move at this point. He's played what 8 games with the team? Considering the whole arbitration thing that could have happened over the course of this contract, I don't think it was a good move. Give him a full season with the team, then look the extend him.

[ORS]

I think this deal was a bit premature. He has to prove that he can play through criticism and can handle the pressure of the fens before you extend him. He hasnt even stepped foot in fenway and has not had to face any criticism yet. We'll see what he is made of when he returns and if he struggles....

Do me a favor, kick the phonograph? That "Wait until the sky falls" line has been skipping over and over again for the last 2 months since you joined.

[ORS]

They tried to trade him because he gave ownership no indication that he wanted to stay. Never once did he say that he wanted to stay in Boston until the ARod deal was being negotiated.

No, they tried to trade him because they had a shot at the best SS in the last.....well, forever.

[ORS]

I don't think it's a good move at this point. He's played what 8 games with the team? Considering the whole arbitration thing that could have happened over the course of this contract, I don't think it was a good move. Give him a full season with the team, then look the extend him.

He signed for 3/15.5 guaranteed, and arbitration estimates have him making around ~$20M for that time frame. So, he's locked up at a value.

[redsoxrules]

I don't think it's a good move at this point. He's played what 8 games with the team? Considering the whole arbitration thing that could have happened over the course of this contract, I don't think it was a good move. Give him a full season with the team, then look the extend him.

 

 

not a good move? its not costing them that much i dont see any problem.at least we dont overpay washed up players like someone else

[Ray10]

Good signing for the Sox this guy is still young and is the future of the Red Sox franchise.

[riverside sluggers]

I don't think it's a good move at this point. He's played what 8 games with the team? Considering the whole arbitration thing that could have happened over the course of this contract, I don't think it was a good move. Give him a full season with the team, then look the extend him.

 

Keep dreaming that his start of the season was all smoke & mirrors. Let alone that each season he has gotten better in each categor, the guy is 26 and just entering his prime. 3 years at $15.5 million, man Theo is really breaking the bank here, very bad move indeed. But yea yankee fans' logic, "well he could still be a bust..."

[a700hitter]

No, they tried to trade him because they had a shot at the best SS in the last.....well, forever.

I disagree. I read that before they went after ARod they went to Nomar and offered him 4 years $48 million with an option that would bring it to $60 million. When he wouldn't accept, the told him that they would be making a move for ARod.

 

And Nomar never gave any indication in 2003 that he wanted to stay in Boston.

[ORS]

I disagree. I read that before they went after ARod they went to Nomar and offered him 4 years $48 million with an option that would bring it to $60 million. When he wouldn't accept, the told him that they would be making a move for ARod.

 

And Nomar never gave any indication in 2003 that he wanted to stay in Boston.

That's interesting, I haven't heard that before. Either way, Coco is not Nomar, and I never said I was counting on this extension putting the FO in a favorable light in Coco's eyes, merely that this increases the chances of that happening.

[Varitek33]

Even though it was guaranteed that Crisp would be arbitration eligible, the Sox FO avoided all that and extended his contract through 2010. If Beckett continues to pitch the way he does and stays healthy, an extension for him shouldnt be that far off as well :thumbsup:

 

 

 

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2006/04/12/red_sox_sign_crisp_to_3_year_extension/

 

 

Sweet. Thats a good move. I love Coco.

[hoefdj18]

I think Coco is going to have a very prosperous career as a Red Sox. Not only is he going to be scorning on a lot of runs with guys like ortiz and manny behind him, it seems that his defense is pretty good. Coco's bat I think won't develop to be as explosive as Johnny Pinstripe's was, but that contract was a great idea at least to lock up a position for a few years and not have to worry about filling voids every offseason. And as far as that contract goes for Coco, what does that mean for guys like Adam Stern or Dustan Mohr? Trade bait or replacements for Trot in a few seasons?

[yankeessuck013]

If Beckett continues to pitch the way he does and stays healthy, an extension for him shouldnt be that far off as well

 

I'm not so sure he will get extended. Remember in arbitration when the sox somewhat lowballed him? I think he might harbor a bit of a grudge over that. But the fact that he could help this team be highly competitive for years to come might outweigh that.

 

Really hard to say.

 

Personally, I think Theo will wait a while on the Beckett extension. They need to see if the blisters will still be a problem. If he's going to be off and on the DL throughout his career (I certainly hope not) then his value will be significantly lower. There have been theories that say the Florida weather had something to do with his blisters, so perhaps Boston will be a better fit for him than anyone expected.

 

I'd love to see them sign him to a 4 or 5 year extension. He's only 25 years old and will be heading into his prime years. Why not lock him up long term? I'd love to see a 5 year 45- 50 million extension.

[KeepTheFaith1229]

Same here, just make sure the blister's gone first.

 

The MLB should get rid of arbitration altogether, I hate it. The player sets his price and the team sets their price, and instead of simply compromising they have to go to court and see which price wins. So in court basically the player's agent makes him out to be Babe Ruth and the team makes him out to be Bob Uecker. It's just stupid, they should just compromise.

[ORS]

Same here, just make sure the blister's gone first.

 

The MLB should get rid of arbitration altogether, I hate it. The player sets his price and the team sets their price, and instead of simply compromising they have to go to court and see which price wins. So in court basically the player's agent makes him out to be Babe Ruth and the team makes him out to be Bob Uecker. It's just stupid, they should just compromise.

They do compromise most of the time. Who actually went to arbitration this year? The only player I can think of off the top of my head was Soriano.

[Cityofchampions33]

well, arbitrators can amke the right decision, such as teh TO thing, however that guy got fired.

[TheRivernator]

Do me a favor, kick the phonograph? That "Wait until the sky falls" line has been skipping over and over again for the last 2 months since you joined.

 

Everyone struggles at some point. Some guys rebound from struggle rather well (Manny and Wells last yr) and some guys crumble (Vazquez, Clement, Rent). Crisp hasnt struggled yet (which isnt a bad thing for you guys), so you dont know....

[ORS]

Everyone struggles at some point. Some guys rebound from struggle rather well (Manny and Wells last yr) and some guys crumble (Vazquez, Clement, Rent). Crisp hasnt struggled yet (which isnt a bad thing for you guys), so you dont know....

And all of those players struggled and rebounded in cities other than Boston and NY. Renteria and Vazquez were shipped out before a rebound chance was given, so you can't blame their performance on the city they were in. Clement has been a good game then bad game pitcher his whole career.

 

I think the line of thinking that NY and Boston are too intense for some is completely overrated. These teams have deep pockets, so they can stand to eat some salary/value when they ship ineffective players out of town after one year, which is what commonly happens. Do you really mean to tell me that Javier Vazquez all of a sudden gave up the long ball solely because he was in NY? Well, he went to stress free AZ last year and surrendered the most HR of his career in the light-hitting NL West.

[TheRivernator]

And all of those players struggled and rebounded in cities other than Boston and NY. Renteria and Vazquez were shipped out before a rebound chance was given, so you can't blame their performance on the city they were in. Clement has been a good game then bad game pitcher his whole career.

 

I think the line of thinking that NY and Boston are too intense for some is completely overrated. These teams have deep pockets, so they can stand to eat some salary/value when they ship ineffective players out of town after one year, which is what commonly happens. Do you really mean to tell me that Javier Vazquez all of a sudden gave up the long ball solely because he was in NY? Well, he went to stress free AZ last year and surrendered the most HR of his career in the light-hitting NL West.

 

Vazquez took a year to get his s*** together and it started in NY. I know a lot of guys just lose it, then find it again, but it seems to happen a whole lot in NY and Boston. Pressure is something that some human beings cannot handle, and unfortunately struggles plus pressure can break players. Coco is replacing a legend, it is a huge deal, and he will have a whole lot of pressure on him. I just find this deal a bit premature, that is all.