David Wells is staying with BoSox

[riverside sluggers]

Boston 7 News has just reported that David Wells will stay in Boston for 2006, which will reportedly be his last season of his career as well. He had a sit-down meeting with Theo, expressing his new-found desire to play in the heart of Boston

 

With that, the projected opening day rotation will be

 

Curt Schilling

Tim Wakefield (Francona has indicated Wake will be the 2nd game starter)

Josh Beckett

David Wells

Matt Clement

 

EDIT: http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/

[Anuj09]

take out clement and trade him we have him for 2 more years :thumbdown put in either arroyo or papelbon, i would prefer arroyo, give papelbon a little more time to pitch relief

[riverside sluggers]

not to worry, I dont see Clement being here in 07. The presence of Paps & Lester will have the Sox FO shopping Clement from now thru the 06 offseason. Last I heard on the hot stove talks was that Milwaukee could be interested in re-visiting talks with Boston for Clement. The Brewers have Carlos Lee, who would be a great addition to the Sox lineup

[ORS]

With 2 pitchers being 40+ years old and another with a history of blister problems, I think it would make sense to go into the season with everyone they have right now. If everything is clicking and nobody has needed significant DL time, then they can make a move before the deadline. Of course, if someone gets desperate for pitching and is offering a package that fills a need (corner power, catching prospect, good 4th OF), then they should make a move before then.

[jsinger121]

not to worry, I dont see Clement being here in 07. The presence of Paps & Lester will have the Sox FO shopping Clement from now thru the 06 offseason. Last I heard on the hot stove talks was that Milwaukee could be interested in re-visiting talks with Boston for Clement. The Brewers have Carlos Lee, who would be a great addition to the Sox lineup

 

Carlos Lee would be a great addition but in giving up clement to get him the Red Sox would also have to part with a few prospects as well and expect that Milwaukee would want prospects like Papelbon or Lester.

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

Someone will have to get moved. I have a hard time seeing the Red Sox go into the season with 12 pitchers.

 

The tough thing is we don't really need anything. Our position players are set, we have too many starters, and a full bullpen. Perhaps we could package two players for one. Either two pitchers for a top reliever or a position player with a pitcher for an upgraded position player.

 

Ideas.....??

[jsinger121]

If anything we need to restock the farm system after it did take a bit of a hit this offseason. hopefully we could move clement for a prosepct or 2 depending on how much the red sox could eat of his contract.

[mtbykr]

Does anyone else think that this is a smokescreen to help bump up his trade value. I mean the guy has been grumpy and not pitching so far this spring: and now all of a sudden he's happy? I still wouldn't be surprised to see him gone in the next week or two!

[Anuj09]

Make a big package of players who we dont need nor will we need

Tony G

Clement

some other ppl i cant think of

 

and in return get prospects

[jsinger121]

Make a big package of players who we dont need nor will we need

Tony G

Clement

some other ppl i cant think of

 

and in return get prospects

 

Its not as easy as you think getting prospects in return. With some players it all depends on how much money the Red Sox will pick up which will determine how good the prospect is.

[ksushi]

Make a big package of players who we dont need nor will we need

Tony G

Clement

some other ppl i cant think of

 

and in return get prospects

 

 

Great Idea.

 

On earth though, that probably won't work out. What you could do is trade a guy like Clement for whatever the going rate is, and send out a rotation of Schilling, Beckett, Wells Wakefield and Papelbon (or clement until hes dealt) and still have a very solid rotation and have back up starters as insurance since we do have a couple of guys who might bite the dust, wells being almost a lock for the 15 day DL at least once.

[a700hitter]

Move Papelbon and Arroyo to the Pen. Cut Seanez and send DiNardo to AAA until things shake out a bit.

[MANNYHOF24]

Trade Wells anyway, i mean the guy is 44. We have a 25 year-old pitcher who isnt going to stay young. The Red Sox i think need to start Papelbon. If they still cant trade Wells get Clement outta here, I dont think people are taking Clements second half struggles to heart. IT HAPPENS EVERY FRIGGING YEAR, why the hell would it change now i mean Clement is 32, and hasnt won a big game in his career, dump Clement, do whatever it takes Papelbon has to start, there is no roll for him in the late innings, Unless Foulke doesnt work out, in that case make Paps the closer and disregard everything I just said.

[ksushi]

Move Papelbon and Arroyo to the Pen. Cut Seanez and send DiNardo to AAA until things shake out a bit.

 

Why in the hell would you want to cut Seanez?

[RedSoxRooter]

You gotta figure at some point this year Wells and Foulke will be back on the DL. No reason to cut anyone just yet..

[a700hitter]

With 3 starters at or near 40, I have little doubt that Papelbon and/or Arroyo will find their way into the starting rotation in 2006. However, I don't think Wells should be traded at this point. When healthy he can win 15 or more games with a very high winning percentage. If Wells is traded and Schilling or Wakefield goes down or Clement under performs, then they will be short starters. I think the Sox should sit on the abundance of pitching until injury or other things cause changes to the rotation.

[a700hitter]

Why in the hell would you want to cut Seanez?

Because they can't carry 13 pitchers, and I have heard that Seanez contract is not guaranteed.

[ksushi]

Seanez is not the guy they'll cut.

[a700hitter]

Seanez is not the guy they'll cut.

He has a hefty contract, so if he doesn't perform in Spring Training, he might be the one to go. IMO, he stinks. His first stint with the Sox was a complete bomb. He had no command at all.

[Anuj09]

He will be fine its Taveras that i am worried about he gave up lots of jacks during the WS back in 04

[Sizzlin22]

Tavarez and Seanez are both pretty good pitchers, but the numbers seem to lean toward Seanez.

 

Seanez in 60 IP last year had an ERA of 2.69, 84 K's with just 22 Walks, also only one loss credited to him with 4 HR's given up all year.

 

Tavarez in 65 IP had an ERA of 3.43, with only 47 K's, and 19 walks, three losses credited to him he aso gave up 6 HR's.

 

What you want in a middle relief set up guy is a high K count, with as little home runs as possible, so the scale tends to tip toward Seanez. But given the constant injury of Foulke I think it would be safe to keep them both.

[Cityofchampions33]

He will be fine its Taveras that i am worried about he gave up lots of jacks during the WS back in 04

 

Of course, because everyone performs like they did 2 years ago in one game. Seanez I think got lucky pitching in a weak weak division, and as of yet hasn't performed up to par, if anything he should be cut.

 

Schilling

Wakefield

Wells

Beckett

Clement

 

DiNardo

Riske

Papelbon

Arroyo

Timlin

Foulke

Tavarez

 

This I dont know how to deal with, all are solid and DiNardo seems to be the best option to send down, but is our only LHP and long-reliever.

[Sizzlin22]

You would seriously rather have Lenny Dinardo than Seanez? DiNardo is so bad.

[jsinger121]

Seanez also pitched in Petco Park which helped his numbers considerably. He not as good as his numbers suggest. Hes been a journeyman pitcher throughout his career and he really a waste of a signing since the Red Sox have better younger arms at a fraction of the cost of Seanez.

[a700hitter]

Seanez in 60 IP last year had an ERA of 2.69, 84 K's with just 22 Walks, also only one loss credited to him with 4 HR's given up all year.

 

Tavarez in 65 IP had an ERA of 3.43, with only 47 K's, and 19 walks, three losses credited to him he aso gave up 6 HR's.

 

What you want in a middle relief set up guy is a high K count, with as little home runs as possible, so the scale tends to tip toward Seanez. But given the constant injury of Foulke I think it would be safe to keep them both.

Seanez stinks. The numbers are deceptive in his case. Put him under the pressure of Boston and he will fold. He did in his first go around with the Sox.

[MC Hammer]

Can I ask why people are suggesting we put Paps in the pen? I don't think theres anything in the world that could stunt a starting pitchers growth more than a season in the bullpen. Sure you might think, great lets get him some more big league experience, but in reality you're destroying his arm, and his head. First of all, to go from throwing 1 game a week, to potentially throwing every single game in a week is horrible for a young arm. Second, to be told that you're starting out in the pen, FOR WHATEVER REASON, is horrible for your confidence as a starter. It doesn't matter if there are 5 HOF pitchers on the staff, being told you're not good enough to start is not going to do any SP any favors ... especially a young one. Maybe I'm wrong ... but I dont think so.

 

Trade Arroyo now ... he's a marginal pitcher on his best day, and now has even less of a spot than he did before Boomer made his decision. I'm not sure how everyone else feels about Arroyo, but watching him on the mound is more frustrating than watching any pitcher in baseball. He's 29 and he's still yet to learn how to locate a fastball ... bye Bronson.

[what]

Alright first post, so don't kill me...

 

I have read rumors of the Marlins shopping Dontrelle before the break. The just lost Pokey too. What if the Sox offer them Graf, Clement, and a prospect (or maybe Bronson) for Willis?

 

Would that fly?

[jsinger121]

Alright first post, so don't kill me...

 

I have read rumors of the Marlins shopping Dontrelle before the break. The just lost Pokey too. What if the Sox offer them Graf, Clement, and a prospect (or maybe Bronson) for Willis?

 

Would that fly?

 

 

Your kidding, right?

[26 to 6]

He has a hefty contract, so if he doesn't perform in Spring Training, he might be the one to go. IMO, he stinks. His first stint with the Sox was a complete bomb. He had no command at all.

Why would they cut him because he has a hefty contract? That doesnt make very much sense. This isnt football, where you can release a player and not pay him. Since he doesnt have any options or anything, the Sox would have to release him, meaning that they have to eat his contract.

 

I realize that he's a pretty bad pitcher and certain circumstances factored into his numbers last year (weak division, pitchers park, etc.), but you cant just eat his contract. Now, I dont know off the top of my head what he's making, but why would the Sox just eat it all and throw him back on the market. They might as well have thrown the money out the window when they made that signing.

 

But yes, I agree with oyu, if they could, he should be the one to go, but I doubt he does.

 

Alright first post, so don't kill me...

 

I have read rumors of the Marlins shopping Dontrelle before the break. The just lost Pokey too. What if the Sox offer them Graf, Clement, and a prospect (or maybe Bronson) for Willis?

 

Would that fly?

You're kidding, right? Why not just send Trot Nixon, $$$, Graf, and a prospect to Seattle for Ichiro and Felix Hernandez.

 

If it was that easy to get guys like Dontrelle then he definately wouldnt be a Marlin anymore.

[what]

Gee, I'm sorry I asked a simple question.

 

I just figured that since the Sox are shopping Graf right now, and they have looked into what they could get for Clement and Arroyo recently...and they already made one deal with Florida...Willis' contract is up after this year, the sox have too many starting pitchers.

 

Because of all of those factors, it seemed to me worth asking what people thought. If you think it's a bad move for the Sox, say so. If you think it's bad for the Marlins, say so. Please, by all means, inform me. Obviously, I'm new to this. Smart alec responses don't offer anything meaningful.

 

Thanks to 26 for at least making it known that Florida wouldn't go for this. That is what I suspected in the beginning. I still thought it worth asking you "experts".