Yankees Spring Training Thread

[26 Reasons to Hate Us]

Chacon is definitely earning his place in the rotation this spring...pitched 3 scoreless innings today, extending his scoreless innings streak to 8.

 

Awesome...I really hope he does well this year so everyone who said he was a one year wonder will shut up.

[a700hitter]

4 walks in 3 innings. Great outing! I would be very encouraged.

[empirestrikesback26]

Scoreless is scoreless.

[a700hitter]

Leiter-esque but scoreless.

[riverside sluggers]

Like Chacon said, "that was one of the worst 3 inning shutout I had ever thrown." He threw just 32 of his 62 pitches as strikes

[MC Hammer]

Like Chacon said, "that was one of the worst 3 inning shutout I had ever thrown." He threw just 32 of his 62 pitches as strikes

Wait wait ... one of the worst outtings? Optimist has him winning a job in the rotation because of that start.

 

32-62 is pathetic, and any major league pitcher would be ashamed of those numbers. Yankee fans ... if this is a guy you're banking on to make your rotation, this season is gonna be a lot of fun.

[26 to 6]

Oh my god guys, shut up! It's Spring Training, and even prior to this outing he had been very good in his previous outings. So because he walked a few guys, RSN is making him out to be the worst control pitcher of all time.

[MC Hammer]

Oh my god guys, shut up! It's Spring Training, and even prior to this outing he had been very good in his previous outings. So because he walked a few guys, RSN is making him out to be the worst control pitcher of all time.

Walked a few guys ... or threw more balls than strikes?

[Optimist]

It's funny how far Boston fans will go to discredit this 'one year wonder.' It's really telling.

[MC Hammer]

It's funny how far Boston fans will go to discredit this 'one year wonder.' It's really telling.

Actually a half a year wonder.

[empirestrikesback26]

The other half was in a pitcher's hell. Give him a year with the yankees.

[a700hitter]

Chacon's outing was like Guidry in his prime compared to Jared Wright's outing on Monday. In three innings, he gave up 8 runs on 11 hits with 1 Walk and no K's to the Pirates with no DH. That has to be one of the worst ST pitching lines that I have ever seen.

[ksushi]

Oh my god guys, shut up! It's Spring Training, and even prior to this outing he had been very good in his previous outings. So because he walked a few guys, RSN is making him out to be the worst control pitcher of all time.

 

I just want to keep telling you that I love everything you say.

 

In other news, Damon's throwing shoulder - the same throwing shoulder that was holding him out of games and causing him to get cortizones last year - is holding him out of the WBC. This is actual news. Injuries are the only certainty in spring training.

[MC Hammer]

The other half was in a pitcher's hell. Give him a year with the yankees.

Really? He gave up almost the exact same number of hits in both places 69 in COL 66 in NY, and the exact same number of HRs. Care to explain that?

[kreinbihl34]

I can explain it.... he sucks

[Optimist]

I can explain it.... he sucks

 

 

Keep dreaming.

[MC Hammer]

 

Keep dreaming.

So instead of making a one liner maybe you should explain the numbers.

[Optimist]

He gave up almost the exact same number of hits in both places 69 in COL 66 in NY, and the exact same number of HRs.

 

He pitched more innings in NY; a drop in hits and the number of HRs staying the same is actually a pretty good thing, if you ask me.

[MC Hammer]

He pitched more innings in NY; a drop in hits and the number of HRs staying the same is actually a pretty good thing, if you ask me.

He pitched 6 more innings, so that means he managed to not let up a HR for 6 whole innings .... BRAVO! :clap:

[Optimist]

He pitched 6 more innings, so that means he managed to not let up a HR for 6 whole innings .... BRAVO! :clap:

 

Please, continue to attempt to discredit him. If you didn't, then I'd be worried.

 

I'm trying to decide if you're still upset he was better in 2005 than most of your staff or you're just scared of what he'll do in 2006; it's probably a mix of the two.

[CrespoBlows]

Please, continue to attempt to discredit him. If you didn't, then I'd be worried.

 

I'm trying to decide if you're still upset he was better in 2005 than most of your staff or you're just scared of what he'll do in 2006; it's probably a mix of the two.

 

No, his abysmal K/BB ratio, should have any Yankee fan worried. Ask any baseball expert, and they'll elaborate on that. I'm sure you also believe in Aaron Small keeping his '05 form as well.

 

I'm trying to decide whether you suffer from a case of extreme bias, or you're just a moron. It's probably a mix of the two.

[Optimist]

Anyways, back to spring training...

 

The Unit had a decent day today. Pitched four scoreless innings and gave up two in the fifth; striking out 4 Cardinals. And Mo pitched a perfect 6th. The loss got charged to Sturtze, who gave up one run in the 8th, in his second appearance of the spring.

 

And the one concern I had is quickly being put to rest. With Wright reaching almost epic levels of suckiness, it looks like the guys who deserve a spot in the rotation will be getting them.

[Optimist]

I'm sure you also believe in Aaron Small keeping his '05 form as well.

 

Wrong. I have no faith in Small, whatsoever.

 

I'm trying to decide whether you suffer from a case of extreme bias, or you're just a moron. It's probably a mix of the two.

 

That's it?:dunno:

[CrespoBlows]

Wrong. I have no faith in Small, whatsoever.

 

So therefore, you should have no faith in Chacon either. Have you seen the two's numbers? They seem to be quite similar. Except Chacon is a bit more wild. Why is Chacon different from Small?

[CrespoBlows]

I'm going to retract my statement about you being a moron, as that is unproductive to the argument at hand.

 

The question I want to know is what do you believe Chacon's numbers will be?

 

I could see Chacon putting up an ERA close to 4.50. That's not great, but it's pretty good for an AL East pitcher.

[Optimist]

The question I want to know is what do you believe Chacon's numbers will be?

 

I could see Chacon putting up an ERA close to 4.50. That's not great, but it's pretty good for an AL East pitcher.

 

I don't think Chacon is going to have a season like last year at all. I imagine his ERA will be somewhere around 4, a little below or a little above. I could see him winning a double digit amount of games, maybe 10 to 15 (though 15 seems a bit high in my mind.)

[CrespoBlows]

I don't think Chacon is going to have a season like last year at all. I imagine his ERA will be somewhere around 4, a little below or a little above. I could see him winning a double digit amount of games, maybe 10 to 15 (though 15 seems a bit high in my mind.)

 

If his ERA is around 4, I could see him winning 18. That's if he pitches in 35 games. With that Yankee offense, he'll get ample run support.

[MC Hammer]

I don't think Chacon is going to have a season like last year at all. I imagine his ERA will be somewhere around 4, a little below or a little above. I could see him winning a double digit amount of games, maybe 10 to 15 (though 15 seems a bit high in my mind.)

Wouldn't a 4+ era make him a 1 year wonder?

[26 to 6]

I just want to keep telling you that I love everything you say.

 

In other news, Damon's throwing shoulder - the same throwing shoulder that was holding him out of games and causing him to get cortizones last year - is holding him out of the WBC. This is actual news. Injuries are the only certainty in spring training.

Do I sense some sarcasm??

 

 

And yea, you should have seen the look on my face when I heard Damon was hurt . I CAN'T WAIT to hear what George has to say.

[26 to 6]

No, his abysmal K/BB ratio, should have any Yankee fan worried. Ask any baseball expert, and they'll elaborate on that. I'm sure you also believe in Aaron Small keeping his '05 form as well.

 

I'm trying to decide whether you suffer from a case of extreme bias, or you're just a moron. It's probably a mix of the two.

So Papelbon being good last year isnt a fluke? But Chacon and Small's good years are? I dont get it.

 

I dont see why a red SOx fan can never find it in themselves to give a Yankee (or the Yankees) some credit. I just dont. I never have any problem giving a Sox player credit, but all you guys know how to do when it comes to the Yankees is discredit. Well how about we let this debate get settled out on the field. Then we'll see.

 

And I agree, I doubt Small is anywhere near as good as he was last year, however I think Chacon will be as good, if not better.

 

And on the Chacon subject, or just the subject of players/pitchers in general. I hate to break it to you guys, but every player can't be perfect. Yea, he walks some guys and whatnot, but he still didnt allow any runs and has looked damn good this year. However, if a player doesnt provide perfection he's crap to you guys. But its only the case with 29 teams, with the exception being the Sox. Pitchig was HORRIBLE last year and you guys act like you have the best rotation in the league, but our guys have to prove themselves again. Now I dont disagree that they should prove themselves, but how about the Sox pitchers having to do the same? I mean, you guys have already annointed them the greatest pitching staff in the history of baseball. A staff of guys with injury problems, inexperience, age, inconsistancy, etc. I think it's your guys that should have to prove themselves.

 

So therefore, you should have no faith in Chacon either. Have you seen the two's numbers? They seem to be quite similar. Except Chacon is a bit more wild. Why is Chacon different from Small?

Sox fans...I understand that your team runs on a stat-based philosophy. However, I have said it many times, and I hate to have to do it again, but..there is more to baseball than numbers. There is the human element. Just from what i've seen from Small at the end of last year and this spring so far, stats aside, I feel he is going to not be as good this year. However, with the same reasoning, I think the exact opposite in Chacon's case.