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No, everyone agrees he has potential and is a top 15-20 spect, just Crespo forgets he's 21 years old

 

I know he's 21, but I'll look at this objectively, rather than overrate every Red Sox prospect.

 

A prospect who can't throw secondary pitches, can't cut it in the big leagues. He probably could be an effective reliever, but a number three starter? I'd doubt he could go even twice through a lineup without being pounded.

 

Wait a minute, an idea just hit me. I'm only 16 years old, if I throw for five years, I'll be good enough to be a 3rd starter at the highest level. I'm exaggerating of course, but the point is that some people can't throw baseball pitches, no matter how hard they work.

 

The other point, I'm trying to make is that lefties who throw with low velocity and don't have pinpoint control, will be feasted on when they hit the bigs. Looking at Phillips control, it's below average. Thirty-one walks in 67 innings equates out to about 93 walks in 201 innings. For a player like Randy Johnson, that would be OK, but a lefty with substandard stuff needs to avoid as many baserunners as possible. He can improve on that, but how much improvement do you really expect?

 

You guys keep bringing up the point that he's fastball is automatically going to improve. That's not assured. Just take a look at one of our own pitching prospects, Abe Alvarez. He's been throwing 87 mph (if he's lucky) since 2003.

 

Realistically, calling Phillips a number three starter is overstating it. Look at Alvarez, he hasn't shown he can get throw a major league lineup more than once, and the only way he's going to wind up in the bigs, is as a relief pitcher. I'd expect the same from Phillips, no way anyone else should expect any different.

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5 starts this year for the young lefty

 

1-2 record with a 2.78 ERA

22.2 innings, 18 Hits, 8 Runs (7 ER), 15 Walks, 28 Ks

 

His K ratio per 9 is looking very good, like most rookies just has to work on his command.

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Crespo, since I take it you're a ladies man, be advised that Ryan has a very attractive young wife. A gorgeous girl. I met her on the golf course at Fort Myers the last week of spring training and I was so impressed with her demeanor that I shanked a shot on the third tee of a very doable 155 yard Par three. Wound up double bogeying it. What does that have to do with pitching? That's my point. It doesn't have diddly s*** to do with it. If he can do the job fine; if not, well we don't need him to gum up the works as some of the others have done up here. I have heard, however, that he rates a little higher than you have stated.
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Crespo, since I take it you're a ladies man, be advised that Ryan has a very attractive young wife. A gorgeous girl. I met her on the golf course at Fort Myers the last week of spring training and I was so impressed with her demeanor that I shanked a shot on the third tee of a very doable 155 yard Par three. Wound up double bogeying it. What does that have to do with pitching? That's my point. It doesn't have diddly s*** to do with it. If he can do the job fine; if not, well we don't need him to gum up the works as some of the others have done up here. I have heard, however, that he rates a little higher than you have stated.

 

I've rated him as a middle relief guy. What's wrong with that? How many players actually end up in the majors anyway? This guy has serious control problems, so bad he makes Jon Lester look like David Wells.

 

37 Walks

 

I'll rate him higher, when he isn't walking 4.5 batters per nine innings.

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Crespo, middle relief? Well it seems like we have a lot of guys already who seem more attuned to middle relief like Gabbard and Snyder. Unfortunately, we are using them as starters and they suck to high heaven. Nothing wrong with your assessment of middle relief but if that is the best we can do, maybe we should start thinking of Bucholz and that other young stud we signed a year ago and whose name escapes me right now.

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