I don't get it....

[RedSoxRooter]

Beckett, acquired from the Marlins in a seven-player trade on Nov. 24, agreed to a one-year, $4.35 million deal over the weekend. The 25-year-old right-hander, who was 15-8 with a 3.38 ERA last season, is eligible for free agency after this season.

 

When will the Red Sox learn? I understand they may not want to sign Beckett to a long term deal just yet to see how he responds to Boston and the AL East. But what if, say, he goes 15-8 with a 3.40 ERA this year and makes his 200 innings and 30 starts? He'll go to free agency and land a 6 year/60 million dollar contract from some other team. Why not sign him up for at least 2-3 years right now when we have him already under contract? Give him a deal like Arroyo (3years/15 million). Hell, they have no problem blowing 10 million on Kim, 18 on Lowell...

 

I just don't get it. They always shoot themselves in the foot by nickle and diming a player until they hit free agency. Don't they realise that by letting a player go to free agency they always ALWAYS pay more in the end - or lose the player all together? It's a no win situation.

 

:rant:

 

note: I thought when we first got Beckett we'd have him through 2007. This quote if from the Herald so I assume it's true.

[guapo34]

That can't be right. I'm 99.9% positive we have him for 2 years before he hits free agency.

[TheMeanWalrus]

Give him a deal like Arroyo (3years/15 million).

 

 

 

Chewie, do you think he'd accept a 3 yr, $15m deal?

[TheMeanWalrus]

That can't be right. I'm 99.9% positive we have him for 2 years before he hits free agency.

 

 

He'll be a FA after this season

[riverside sluggers]

No he wont become a free agent officially until the 2007 offseason. Red Sox are doing this as a cautionary measure to see how he does in Boston 's bright lights, the AL matchups, and his blister issues. They can still extend his contract during this season. This is his second arbitration, players have 3. Dont worry, ok

[ORS]

He's got 4.030 years of MLB service, meaning he will have just over 5 at the end of this year. You need over 6 to become a FA, so I'm pretty sure he'll be under the Sox control for 2007. My source was mlb4u.com, and they list his service time as 3.030 years, but that figure was for before 2005.

 

Source

[TheMeanWalrus]

No he wont become a free agent officially until the 2007 offseason. Red Sox are doing this as a cautionary measure to see how he does in Boston 's bright lights, the AL matchups, and his blister issues. They can still extend his contract during this season. This is his second arbitration, players have 3. Dont worry, ok

 

 

 

Josh Beckett is eligible for FA after the 2006 season.

[RedSoxRooter]

Chewie, do you think he'd accept a 3 yr, $15m deal?

 

I don't know. He may look at the guaranteed money and bite. The point is it makes more sense to try to extend him now as opposed to after the season when other teams will try to drive up the price, no?

 

Edit: Thanks riverside sluggers. I feel better now.

[RedSoxRooter]

Josh Beckett is eligible for FA after the 2006 season.

 

Now I feel like crap again.

[riverside sluggers]

Funny, because I got this from the "Associated Press" release through Foxsports

 

Beckett, Red Sox agree to one-year deal

 

BOSTON (AP) - The Red Sox and pitcher Josh Beckett settled their arbitration case Saturday, agreeing to a one-year contract for $4,325,000. Beckett, acquired in a seven-player trade on Thanksgiving, made $2,425,000 last season when he went 15-8 with a 3.38 ERA for the Florida Marlins. He filed for arbitration and asked for $4.9 million, while the Red Sox offered $3.75 million. He can become a free agent after the 2007 season.

 

The 25-year-old right-hander was the MVP of the 2003 World Series, when the Marlins beat the New York Yankees. The Red Sox traded four prospects to Florida for Beckett, third baseman Mike Lowell and reliever Guillermo Mota. Mota was later traded to the Cleveland Guardians as part of a package that brought outfielder Coco Crisp to Boston. Crisp is the only Red Sox player still in arbitration.

 

EDIT: Conflicting report has the globe & herald saying 2006 offseason, so thats a typo on the Associated Press' fault. Still like Walrus said, an extension can be during the season if he comes firing out and is healtheir in terms of blisters. Afterall they have called him "the ace of the future", so I expect him to be locked down.

[TheMeanWalrus]

I don't know. He may look at the guaranteed money and bite. The point is it makes more sense to try to extend him now as opposed to after the season when other teams will try to drive up the price, no?

 

Edit: Thanks riverside sluggers. I feel better now.

 

 

 

Regardless of when he's a FA, I don't think he'd accept a 3 yr $15m deal.

It doesn't make any sense for him.

Turning down $15m over three years may be a lot of cake for me and you but to a MLB player, it's not that much. Beckett can reasonably expect to make that much cash in his career so you can't compare it to, say, Mia Garciaparra turning down a 4 yr $60m deal.

 

We'll see what happens.

I suspect if BEckett comes out firing and is on top of his game thru the first 1/2 of the season then they may start negotiations. The FO has been decidedly tight lipped about these kind of things but the better and earlier he performs the timetable will likely escalate.

[He Hate Me]

great so now the Yankees can sign him to a 3 year $45 million deal when he becomes a FA and the Sox FO can say they didnt want to overpay Beckett. He will then start his first season with the Yanks lights out before succumbing to blisters in July and go on to pitch 200 more innings total for the remainder of his contract with the Yankees.

[ORS]

From Boston.com

 

The Red Sox and pitcher Josh Beckett settled their arbitration case yesterday, agreeing to a one-year contract for $4,325,000. Beckett, acquired in a seven-player trade on Thanksgiving, made $2,425,000 last season when he went 15-8 with a 3.38 ERA for the Florida Marlins. He filed for arbitration and asked for $4.9 million, while the Red Sox offered $3.75 million. He can become a free agent after the 2007 season.

 

With 2 years of arby left, they aren't rushing into anything. If he dominates, they'll try and buyout that last year and extend him. If injures slow him down, they'll use that last arby year. If he doesn't impress over the next two years, then they'll likely let him walk.

[Rosey]

Give him a deal like Arroyo (3years/15 million).

 

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I'm probably way off here ...but didn't Arroyo want to stay in Boston because of his music career. It was in his own interest. IMO but then my opinion in BB is usually off :dunno:

[TheMeanWalrus]

I'm probably way off here ...but didn't Arroyo want to stay in Boston because of his music career. It was in his own interest. IMO but then my opinion in BB is usually off :dunno:

 

 

 

 

Rose he took a hometown discount against his agents advice to stay in Boston.

The reasons aren't clear but it seems if he wanted a music career then LA would've been the place to go.

 

 

Maybe he just likes Boston?

 

Regardless of the reasons, I hope the front office doesn't f*** him

[Rosey]

Rose he took a hometown discount against his agents advice to stay in Boston.

The reasons aren't clear but it seems if he wanted a music career then LA would've been the place to go.

 

 

Maybe he just likes Boston?

 

Regardless of the reasons, I hope the front office doesn't f*** him

 

Walrus...was there something having to do with it being a 3 year but he could be traded anytime?(during the times there allowed to trade) Was that why his agents were againist it?

[He Hate Me]

Rose he took a hometown discount against his agents advice to stay in Boston.

The reasons aren't clear but it seems if he wanted a music career then LA would've been the place to go.

 

 

Maybe he just likes Boston?

 

Regardless of the reasons, I hope the front office doesn't f*** him

 

At least you know he wont f*ck the front office. They're not young enough for him

[TheMeanWalrus]

Rose, his agents (and the players union) were against it because the contract was below "fair market value" The players union wants all players to sign for the most money possible, regardless of any other lifestyle related factors, because it keeps the average salary higher. His agents for the same reasons, PLUS, they get 10% so 10% of the $12m he signed for is $1.2m vs the $1.8m they'd be entitled to if he signed at market value which was believed to be in the $15m-$18m range over 3-4 years.

 

 

He can be traded anytime, his contract does not have a no-trade stipulation in it.

Thats why I said I hope the FO doesn;t f*** him because he took less money to stay here. The problem now is that his low salary makes him incredibly appealing to other teams who may want to deal for him.

[Rosey]

Rose, his agents (and the players union) were against it because the contract was below "fair market value" The players union wants all players to sign for the most money possible, regardless of any other lifestyle related factors, because it keeps the average salary higher. His agents for the same reasons, PLUS, they get 10% so 10% of the $12m he signed for is $1.2m vs the $1.8m they'd be entitled to if he signed at market value which was believed to be in the $15m-$18m range over 3-4 years.

 

 

He can be traded anytime, his contract does not have a no-trade stipulation in it.

Thats why I said I hope the FO doesn;t f*** him because he took less money to stay here. The problem now is that his low salary makes him incredibly appealing to other teams who may want to deal for him.

 

OK.... Warus I get it now.

 

Thanks

[ksushi]

Don't the Sox have a 'no negotiations during the season' policy? I could have sworn they did. If i were them, I would ink him right now and get it done. Letting guys go to free agency is a huge gamble, especially a pitcher.

[jsinger121]

hes not a free agent until 2007 so there is no rush.

[riverside sluggers]

Don't the Sox have a 'no negotiations during the season' policy? I could have sworn they did. If i were them, I would ink him right now and get it done. Letting guys go to free agency is a huge gamble, especially a pitcher.

 

I was thinking the same thing but I remembered that last April 19 they had extended Wakefield's contract to avoid him hitting free agency.

[Rosey]

jsinger121 hes not a free agent until 2007 so there is no rush.

 

That's what I was asking about but Walrus answered it here because I knew there was reason he was advised not to do it ...I didn't know why. Now I see it.

 

He can be traded anytime, his contract does not have a no-trade stipulation in it.

Thats why I said I hope the FO doesn;t f*** him because he took less money to stay here. The problem now is that his low salary makes him incredibly appealing to other teams who may want to deal for him.

[Plumpamania]

Josh Beckett is eligible for FA after the 2006 season.

 

 

Nope.

[TheRivernator]

Nope.

 

The time for the sox to make money off Beckett is now. The final yr of arbitration is basically a 1 yr deal at current market value, not decreased value like yrs 3-5 are. So Beckett will likely pull 8-10 mil next yr anyway and command more on the market after 2007. If the sox were convinced that they would want to keep him after 2007, then they should have used this yr as a final bargaining chip seeing as this is his last yr of below market value pay that he will receive. The sox should have offered him a 3 yr 21 mil contract that he likely would have snatched up and also the sox would have saved 3-4 mil on it. That would give them sufficient time to decide how much they like him....

[kreinbihl34]

I would wait it out until the All Star break. See whats happening... if hes makes it on the team offer 32-40mil for 4-5 years. If hes hurt or stuggling I would still make a 18-22mil for 4-5 years