Scott Bor-ass

[RedSoxRooter]

Why don't the Sox just take a stand and not deal with Scott Boras?

 

Think about it. If the Sox said "We don't deal with Boras" then players would have a choice and their intentions would be obvious.

 

If Ortiz switches to Boras as his agent in 2007, then we (as fans) already know he has no intention of returning.

 

If you want to join the Sox, much like asking for a no-trade, you can't have Boras as your agent. Boras clients are only in it for the rediculous money, so let all his clients go to the Yankees or Mets. He may represent the biggest stars in the game, but stars don't win you a WS (see yankees)....

 

If the Sox are looking to create the "team is more important than the star" mentality, like the Patriots, then just don't deal with a guy like Boras.

[Sizzlin22]

We deal with Boras because he has the bst players. Nothing you can do.

[schillingouttheks]

Well, you can't really hate on Boras. He does his job, which is to get the most amount of money possible out of wherever his clients are going.

 

However, every once in awhile you'll get a guy like Tek who has Boras, and will gladly return to the city that he loves and loves him back. Johnny is just a dipshit in every sense of the word.

[stocker323]

Well they looked like they were taking a move in this direction last night. The thing is I don't think a lot of players would fire Boras as their agent just so they could join the Sox. They'd rather just take the money and play somewhere else.

[RedSoxRooter]

Sorry, but I still don't think that Tek is worth 10M/year. I think they overpaid to keep him.

[RedSoxRooter]

Well they looked like they were taking a move in this direction last night. The thing is I don't think a lot of players would fire Boras as their agent just so they could join the Sox. They'd rather just take the money and play somewhere else.

 

And that's fine. But there are also a lot of great players who don't have Boras as an agent.

Pedro? Mueller? Nomar? Sure, other agents can be *******s too, but Boras is just a pigf***er.

[stocker323]

Johnny is just a dipshit in every sense of the word.

 

We would not have won a World Series without Damon and I hope that Red Sox fans realize that. Johnny was a tremendous player when he was here and I hope that he is still remembered for his Game 7 ALCS performance. It is not like he didn't want to return to the Red Sox, he did, but the Yankees offered him more money. Baseball is a business to the players first, I think we as fans don't realize that. 4 guaranteed years is something Johnny needed to take because if he took a 3 year deal with the Red Sox there is no way that he would still be productive at his current rate then as he is now. After 3 years he may have been without a job, while now that he has a 4 year deal he can still be paid for that 4th year even if he does not produce or is relegated to be just a bench player.

[yeszir]

I actually like the idea. Take a stand, dammit.

[element1151]

More teams should start doing this. Team first.

[jsinger121]

boras cons every team every yr. he calls teams bluffs constantly and team always fall for it. at least the red sox called his bluff last yr on varitek

[schillingouttheks]

We would not have won a World Series without Damon and I hope that Red Sox fans realize that. Johnny was a tremendous player when he was here and I hope that he is still remembered for his Game 7 ALCS performance. It is not like he didn't want to return to the Red Sox, he did, but the Yankees offered him more money. Baseball is a business to the players first, I think we as fans don't realize that. 4 guaranteed years is something Johnny needed to take because if he took a 3 year deal with the Red Sox there is no way that he would still be productive at his current rate then as he is now. After 3 years he may have been without a job, while now that he has a 4 year deal he can still be paid for that 4th year even if he does not produce or is relegated to be just a bench player.

Sure, thanks for the World Series, but good riddance. I wouldn't care if he left us for more money, AS LONG AS IT WASN'T THE YANKEES. You don't come to a city like Boston, become a fan favorite, love the fans, TELL THE FANS YOU WILL NEVER BE A YANKEE, win a World Series here, make SHITLOADS of money off of RED SOX promotions, then spin around and stab the whole of Red Sox Nation in the back by signing with their ARCH RIVAL YANKEES.

 

This is why I was fine with Pedro leaving. Sure, more money, go ahead...but he went to the METS. Not the Yankees. I won't forget what Johnny did here and how he helped us, but when it comes down to it, he could be the next damn Yankee that f***s us up in the coming season(s). 12 million to JOHNNY DAMON, is nothing. From his previous contracts with other teams, added to the promotions for the Sox he did, added to the profits from the book he wrote, total to an amount that could take care of him for MORE than one lifetime. 40 million dollars is a hell of a lot of money too. He KNEW he was leaving us for the enemy, and he KNEW it was because of the money. He TOLD us that he would never be a Yankee, and that the top dollar wasn't important to him. Well guess what Johnny? Not only are you an *******, a backstabber, and a complete moron, you are also a hypocrite. Get the f*** out.

[Cityofchampions33]

Well...at least his book is going down the toilet

[ahhchon]

We would not have won a World Series without Damon and I hope that Red Sox fans realize that. Johnny was a tremendous player when he was here and I hope that he is still remembered for his Game 7 ALCS performance. It is not like he didn't want to return to the Red Sox, he did, but the Yankees offered him more money. Baseball is a business to the players first, I think we as fans don't realize that. 4 guaranteed years is something Johnny needed to take because if he took a 3 year deal with the Red Sox there is no way that he would still be productive at his current rate then as he is now. After 3 years he may have been without a job, while now that he has a 4 year deal he can still be paid for that 4th year even if he does not produce or is relegated to be just a bench player.

 

you hit it right on the nail. some sox fans hate the yankees more than they love the red socks. i for one love that the yankees have a good team and are competitive every year. i wouldn't want the yankees to turn into the devil rays of today. the sox yank rivalry is one of the best in sports, every game is exciting, if the yankees sucked i would actually be upset that the games are less intense.

 

the fact that damon left for the yankees just spices things up even more, i don't hate him for it. i'm glad the yankees signed him. to think that all players should take a hometown discount is silly. guys like hoffman take hometown discounts because they've been a member of the team since they started, they are the face of the orginization. damon is not that guy in boston, our guy was nomar and now is tek.

 

for all the people hating on borass, you guys are morons. if i was a baseball player the first person i would call his bora$$. he's the man, he's the absolute best at what he does. he makes a 8 mill/4 year player worth 10 mill/5 years. how could you hate someone for being the best at what he does, i have the utmost respect for borass.

 

i'm also sick of the 12 million dollars is nothing bs statements. 12 million dollars is something, 12 million is something to bill gates, to ted turner, to trump, to tiger woods, why should it be any different for damon? no matter how rich you are you can always be richer, money is not something anyone gets sick of. to get mad at someone because they "said" they would never be a yankee is silly, that was then this is now. i'm sure everyone has made "promises" that they didn't keep. people forget to realize that these are baseball players, they are humans and humans look after themselves. johnny damon is here to take care of johnny damon, not the little boys and girls who wear his redsox jersey.

 

i'm happy the yankees made the move, yeah they are stronger in 06 and maybe 07, but in 08 and 09 it will come back to haunt them (hopefully). we gain a draft pick for it and it frees up money to sign ANDRUW JONES! pitching wins championships and the yankees have yet to upgrade their starting rotation.

 

everything is possible, even ortiz signing with the yankees.

 

john

[jsinger121]

well since the sox didn't sign damon the money saved should go to locking up ortiz to a longer deal. now ortiz is someone who is worth 13 million a yr

[yankees4ever]

Why don't the Sox just take a stand and not deal with Scott Boras?

 

Think about it. If the Sox said "We don't deal with Boras" then players would have a choice and their intentions would be obvious.

 

If Ortiz switches to Boras as his agent in 2007, then we (as fans) already know he has no intention of returning.

 

If you want to join the Sox, much like asking for a no-trade, you can't have Boras as your agent. Boras clients are only in it for the rediculous money, so let all his clients go to the Yankees or Mets. He may represent the biggest stars in the game, but stars don't win you a WS (see yankees)....

 

If the Sox are looking to create the "team is more important than the star" mentality, like the Patriots, then just don't deal with a guy like Boras.

 

Yes, stars can and do win world series. Not always, to be sure, but I know one thing, the Sox had alot of stars on their team when they won it all in 2004.

[ahhchon]

we still have a good amount of time in ortiz's contract.. we should definately wait until the last year to offer any extention.. it would be stupid to act now.

 

john

[yankees4ever]

Well, you can't really hate on Boras. He does his job, which is to get the most amount of money possible out of wherever his clients are going.

 

However, every once in awhile you'll get a guy like Tek who has Boras, and will gladly return to the city that he loves and loves him back. Johnny is just a dipshit in every sense of the word.

 

Schill, I don't come on here very often, and when I do I usually only post in spurts. Anyway, I've read many of your posts, and they generally seem very reasonable. Not trying to kiss your butt, but they just do. This one truly baffles me, however. I know it hurts losing Damon, especially to The Greatest Team in History, but, c'mon, dude, you don't think he's really a dipshit, do you? I mean, for cryin' out loud, every Sox fan on earth was worshipping him like some sort of immortal god before today. Of course, if Jeter ever decided to sign with the Sox, I'd s*** three times and die.

That aside, you're right. You can't really blame Boras. If he didn't do the job the athletes pay him to, he'd be out of a job. No worries about losing Damon though. Trust me, as a Yankee fan who isn't blind to the fact that the Yanks need some help, without the Yankees acquiring some quality starters, I don't think you guys have to worry about seeing them win series after series again like they did in the mid-to-late 90's.

[yankees4ever]

But yes, I don't ever recall hearing Johnny Damon saying he'd never be a Yankee, but if he did, then everything Schill said in his posts is true. Sorry, Schill, I replied before I read your other post. Well, maybe he'll stab the team we all know as the greatest ever in the back someday too. Then Red Sox fans can really be happy again!! Until then, I'm glad he came over from the "Dark Side"

[schillingouttheks]

But yes, I don't ever recall hearing Johnny Damon saying he'd never be a Yankee, but if he did, then everything Schill said in his posts is true. Sorry, Schill, I replied before I read your other post. Well, maybe he'll stab the team we all know as the greatest ever in the back someday too. Then Red Sox fans can really be happy again!! Until then, I'm glad he came over from the "Dark Side"

 

"There's no way I can go play for the Yankees, but I know they're going to come after me hard. It's definitely not the most important thing to go out there for the top dollar, which the Yankees are going to offer me. It's not what I need." -- Johnny Damon

 

Like I've said before, the only thing that would make me happy is seeing Clemens in a Red Sox uni again, and seeing the fans of NY s*** their pants. Then seeing Clemens K Damon countless times. Oh, wishful thinking is a great thing.

[eZ_d0eS_iT]

for all the people hating on borass, you guys are morons. if i was a baseball player the first person i would call his bora$$. he's the man, he's the absolute best at what he does. he makes a 8 mill/4 year player worth 10 mill/5 years. how could you hate someone for being the best at what he does, i have the utmost respect for borass.

 

i'm also sick of the 12 million dollars is nothing bs statements. 12 million dollars is something, 12 million is something to bill gates, to ted turner, to trump, to tiger woods, why should it be any different for damon? no matter how rich you are you can always be richer, money is not something anyone gets sick of. to get mad at someone because they "said" they would never be a yankee is silly, that was then this is now. i'm sure everyone has made "promises" that they didn't keep. people forget to realize that these are baseball players, they are humans and humans look after themselves. johnny damon is here to take care of johnny damon, not the little boys and girls who wear his redsox jersey.

 

everything is possible, even ortiz signing with the yankees.

 

john

 

 

ok. logically i understand where you're coming from but i have to completely disagree with your assessment why Boras is not the devil. I will admit making him the scapegoat for everything that is wrong with baseball may not be entirely correct. Might as well blame capitalism for making players turn their backs on the fans who spend their hard-earned $$ to see them play a kid's game.

 

But you seem to miss the point that as this is a fan-based board (fan=short for fanatic) and as such, emotion and logic rarely go hand and hand. To alot of the RSN faithful, Damon was more than just a player, his personality, his desire to give it everything he had...the intangibles he brought to the table really transcended his status from just another player/mercenary to a reverred symbol and face of RSN. While people do have the right to change their minds, on his own he uttered the statement he would rebuff attempts from NYY to take more money to switch sides after playing in Boston and winning a championship here. Considering the rich history and rivalry with our nemesis, going back on his word makes him out to be a pariah. As a man, nevermind an athlete and role model, all you have is your word. What does it say about you that you can easily turn your back on those who have given you the opportunity to be the person you are today for the almighty dollar.

 

Secondly, Boras does what he is paid to do...and he does it very well...always at the expense of the fans. Far be it from me to dictate a player's worth...if someone is willing to pay you X-dollars and the check doesn't bounce by all means. But I'd like to remember a time when fans didn't have so much pent up hate/jealously for todays rich and spoiled athletes. How dare you say it is so inconceivable to think a player should take a hometown discount if that player truly wanted to stay where he was loved, and had a chance to be a part of a dynasty? I'm not going to use a hypocritical excuse and say we don't have money, but compared to NY, management needs to be more shrewd in building a winner for years to come and not blowing the entire budget to keep 1 or 2 players. Its a team-first mentality that a player has too look himself in the mirror (Tom Brady anyone??) and decide he'd rather continue being a part of a winner and an organization he's called home for several years at the expense of making every single penny he could possibly earn on the open market.

 

As a baseball fan who has suffered the effects of his previous negotiations with the Dodgers, I don't begrudge Boras from getting his clients the best deal possible. I do absolutely HATE the way he goes about conducting his business and the damage he inflicts on the organizations and total disregard for the fanbase who inevitable end up paying his and his clients salaries.

[Soxfan1]

"There's no way I can go play for the Yankees, but I know they're going to come after me hard. It's definitely not the most important thing to go out there for the top dollar, which the Yankees are going to offer me. It's not what I need." -- Johnny Damon

 

Like I've said before, the only thing that would make me happy is seeing Clemens in a Red Sox uni again, and seeing the fans of NY s*** their pants. Then seeing Clemens K Damon countless times. Oh, wishful thinking is a great thing.

LOL,that would even it out perfectly.

[natsfan]

An outsider's view of the Johnny Damon signing at awesomeinc.blogspot.com

[mosox]

Theo had a pretty good relationship with Boras, as evidenced by the Tek signing last year. The problem this year is not Boras, but the inexperienced FO that was overmatched by Boras.

[ahhchon]

Theo had a pretty good relationship with Boras, as evidenced by the Tek signing last year. The problem this year is not Boras, but the inexperienced FO that was overmatched by Boras.

 

 

if they were overmatched they would have given in and given damon the long expensive contract he wanted.. the total opposite happened, we didn't give in.

 

john

[MC Hammer]

YEAH LET BOYCOTT BORASS!!!!!

 

... and let every single one of his clients sign in NY. Great plan.

[He Hate Me]

Scott Bor-ASS = Drew ROsenhaus

 

These two are cancers to the sports they're both messing up. Someone take them to a dark alley and go pulp fiction on their ass

[He Hate Me]

btw not every Boras agent is about the money. Bernie took a hometown discount to stay with us. wow theres gotta be some sort of irony here.

 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/baseball/mlb/12/23/yankees.williams.ap/index.html

 

Boras, who also represents Damon, said Williams could have gotten more money elsewhere.

 

"He took a lot less to come back to the Yankees because he values the Yankees tradition," Boras said.

[yeszir]

An outsider's view of the Johnny Damon signing at awesomeinc.blogspot.com

All of your spam posts are identical. Banned.

[jsinger121]

most of the boras clients are about the money.....bernie is basically washed up. he wasn't a prime free agent. he didnt want to leave the yanks and i highly doubt there were other teams bidding for bernie considering he was offered arbitration and was a type A free agent. no team would have given a first round pick for him.