Kevin Millwood

[Beckett95]

While the Orioles have interest in free agent Kevin Millwood, they've yet to make him an offer, two front-office members told the Baltimore Sun.

Millwood met with the Rangers yesterday and the Nationals are believed to have made him an offer. The Red Sox could get seriously involved after losing Johnny Damon. Dec. 21 - 12:26 am et

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[jimmycarter05]

We don't need him, we need a CF, and a SS.

[ACL BoSox]

You can never have too much pitching. The AL ERA king would be welcomed here.

[elsrbueno]

If you could get Milwood for a reasonable price I'd say do it. Unfortunately he's got Scott Boras for an agent and we all know what that means.

 

He wants at least 4 years, is very inconsistant from year to year, and IMO would be WAY WAY to expensive at this point.

[jimmycarter05]

He also wants somewhere in the 45-50 million dollar range.

[DrewDaGreat]

I'd definitely get Millwood.

 

I don't care what kind of hitting other teams have.

 

A staff's top 3 of Schilling, Beckett, and Millwood would be unmatched in the AL.

 

Pitching > Hitting

[MANNYHOF24]

You dont Pay kevin Millwood 50 millon if you dont pay Johnny Damon 50 millon period.

[ksushi]

How is that logic reasonable? Pitching is expensive, I would pay for it. I would take the ERA King over a 33 year old in need of nightly cortozones anyday. Not to say Millwood is a spring chicken or anything but it would be a much better signing.

[riverside sluggers]

I would take this deal, its just who is agent is: Scott Boras blah. He has aksed teams starting from where AJ Burnett had gotten, 5 years/$55 million. A signing of Millwood would of course see the trades of Wells and Clement or Arroyo

 

Curt Schilling

Josh Beckett

Kevin Millwood

Tim Wakefield

Jonathan Papelbon

[ksushi]

I think a guy like millwood would love an oppurunity to be in boston and rack up the wins for a contender. I think hes just that sort of pitcher, hes not a money deal in a losing town kinda guy. I'd like to see him end up here now actually. I am officially in favor of this. I think that this would definetly send clement and wells packing but if we did a clement for reed, a wells and youk or somebody for linebrink cause wells isnt enough for the padres to make a deal like that, and im not even certain they want to disassemble their bullpen for wells so it might not get done at all.

 

He won't get burnett money, if there is one thing we should all know about boras right now its that hes a hard nosed dick but also a great compromiser and he always comes to a deal thats right around good for both parties. He said 7, but settled for four with big money, he says AJ burnett money but will do it for 4 years 40 with benefits. He also said all out no trade for varitek but he and theo worked out an agreement where all sox 10-5 players would recieve no trade protection. The guy is an *******, but hes very good at what he does. His bark is louder than his bite though.

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

Kevin Millwood would be nice....

Roger Clemens would be better (pay him whatever he wants)

....actually both would be ideal.

 

Curt Schilling

Roger Clemens

Josh Beckett

Kevin Millwood

Tim Wakefield

 

Keith Foulke

Mike Timlin

Guillermo Mota

Jonathan Papelbon

Craig Hansen

Bronson Arroyo

Rudy Saenz

 

.....thats an incredible pitching group....make it happen

[jimmycarter05]

Kevin Millwood would be nice....

Roger Clemens would be better (pay him whatever he wants)

....actually both would be ideal.

 

Curt Schilling

Roger Clemens

Josh Beckett

Kevin Millwood

Tim Wakefield

 

Keith Foulke

Mike Timlin

Guillermo Mota

Jonathan Papelbon

Craig Hansen

Bronson Arroyo

Rudy Saenz

 

.....thats an incredible pitching group....make it happen

 

 

 

 

hahaha, and where are we going to get all this money from, Roger will want at the least 17 million and Millwood wants 11-12 million a year. If we trade Manny, I'm definately in favor of Roger because Beckett idolizies him, so maybe it can help is injury-prone career.

[riverside sluggers]

According to the Dallas Morning News, the Rangers will have to step up their negotiations for Millwood because Scott Boras has relayed there is a 4 year/$40 million offer on the table from an undisclosed team... Hmmm

 

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/baseball/rangers/stories/122105dnsporangerslede.1f17d25.html

[elsrbueno]

Kevin Millwood would be nice....

Roger Clemens would be better (pay him whatever he wants)

....actually both would be ideal.

 

Curt Schilling

Roger Clemens

Josh Beckett

Kevin Millwood

Tim Wakefield

 

Keith Foulke

Mike Timlin

Guillermo Mota

Jonathan Papelbon

Craig Hansen

Bronson Arroyo

Rudy Saenz

 

.....thats an incredible pitching group....make it happen

 

Do we look like the Yankees to you? I have an outside hope that Roger will come to Boston but I seriously doubt that the Red Sox will go to 4 years, $40 million on Kevin Milwood.

[ORS]

According to the Dallas Morning News, the Rangers will have to step up their negotiations for Millwood because Scott Boras has relayed there is a 4 year/$40 million offer on the table from an undisclosed team... Hmmm

 

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/baseball/rangers/stories/122105dnsporangerslede.1f17d25.html

Amazingly, there is always a bigger offer from an undisclosed team for Boras's clients. Strangely, they never get signed by this "mystery" team. Wonder why that is?

[elsrbueno]

Amazingly, there is always a bigger offer from an undisclosed team for Boras's clients. Strangely, they never get signed by this "mystery" team. Wonder why that is?

 

Exactly. Johnny Damon himself had a phantom 6 year offer but accepted a 4 year deal from the Yankees......

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

Do we look like the Yankees to you? I have an outside hope that Roger will come to Boston but I seriously doubt that the Red Sox will go to 4 years, $40 million on Kevin Milwood.

 

I certainly wouldn't be excited commiting 40 million to Millwood considering his age but we saved that money on Damon and were already talking about the possibility of Clemens...my guess is the Red Sox were interested in having Damon 4years/40mill and Clemens....so they could do Millwood and Clemens...I should mention though I'm not the biggest Millwood fan so if we pass on him I'd be all set.

[Beckett95]

The Rangers and agent Scott Boras discussed financial details today, but no Kevin Millwood deal is close to getting done.

It is unlikely the Rangers will offer Millwood a five-year contract. $44 million or even $48 million for four years might be a possibility. The Red Sox, Nationals and Orioles also appear to be in the running for Millwood, but the Rangers are probably the favorites right now. Dec. 22 - 8:21 pm et

[TrotVaritek]

I think a guy like millwood would love an oppurunity to be in boston and rack up the wins for a contender. I think hes just that sort of pitcher, hes not a money deal in a losing town kinda guy. I'd like to see him end up here now actually. I am officially in favor of this. I think that this would definetly send clement and wells packing but if we did a clement for reed, a wells and youk or somebody for linebrink cause wells isnt enough for the padres to make a deal like that, and im not even certain they want to disassemble their bullpen for wells so it might not get done at all.

 

I don't think the Padres will trade Linebrink now, They just traded Otsuka to the Rangers. By trading Linebrink they would have no one but Hoffman in their bullpen

[Beckett95]

The Red Sox are believed to be trying to schedule a visit with Kevin Millwood in Boston.

It probably wouldn't happen before Christmas. If the Red Sox entered the bidding, they'd be competing with the Rangers, Orioles and Nationals for Millwood. Dec. 23 - 3:31 am et

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[ksushi]

Millwood is 31, I would gladly give him 4 years 40 million, the same as i would have given damon. absolutley. Do you realize we didn't have a pitcher in our rotation with an ERA under 4 last year? That cannot happen again. The yanks are going to hit so well that if we go out there with a mediocre pitching staff, They will hammer us into the ground and their bullpen will curtail any impending combacks. IF beckett is hurt, schill doesnt bounce back, if we don't have a stopper, the losing streaks will really pile up on us also. Not having someone capable of resting the pen while winning a game on a regular basis is devastating in a pennant race. Wake can go long innings but cannot always keep offenses quiet, Beckett can keep offenses quiet but we won't know how much he will be able to pitch until the season starts, Schilling is a gutsy horse who I think will bounce back, but there is an 'if' factor there. Schilling in all likelihood will benefit from being able to get back into a routine, something he didn't do last year, and he will have comporable stuff to '04 and just as much guts. Thats enough for a guy like schilling, but I'm not comfortable with question marks however slight they may be.

 

We may be able to put some pieces together, but we're stretched thin right now. That isn't good, you need depth to go anywhere over the course of a season and in the post season. Millwood would relieve some of that pressure freeing our hands to possibly trade Wells for Izturis, Lugo, or another one of the SS names mentioned and that also cuts our need for clement. Clement could then be dealt for Reed without looking back.

 

I believe the sox need Millwood more than any other team. Anyone know millwoods ERC?

 

He has gone 200 innings 4 times in his career and approached 200 again last season at 192, he is a good pitcher. I think we need one more pitcher to get ourselves into shape here if you assume clement and wells must go in order to fill necessary holes on the roster which are also right now holding us back.

[ORS]

Apparently, Boras thinks the bidding should start at 5 yrs./ $55M, what AJ Burnett signed for. Stand up comedians should start feeling that their livelihood is being threatened by this guy; I know he makes me laugh out loud more often than they do.

[Beckett95]

the rangers have already offered him 3 yrs/30 mil, which is obviously not going to get it done with boras. Id go to about 4 yrs/42-44 million at the most for him.

[riverside sluggers]

The Rangers actually tried to make that deal with Boras for 3 years/$30 million?? haha Any team knows that Boras doesnt do 3 year contracts all that much. The most Sox should offer would be 4 years/$36-44 million.

 

In 5 games pitched at Fenway Park against one of the best offenseive teams in recent years, 3-1 record with a 3.51 ERA

[ORS]

The Rangers actually tried to make that deal with Boras for 3 years/$30 million?? haha Any team knows that Boras doesnt do 3 year contracts all that much. The most Sox should offer would be 4 years/$36-44 million.

 

In 5 games pitched at Fenway Park against one of the best offenseive teams in recent years, 3-1 record with a 3.51 ERA

That won't get it done now. A google search of: "Scott Boras" "Kevin Millwood", turns up stories of the M's offering 4/$44M before they signed Washburn, but Boras turned it down saying Millwood's a "5-year contract player". Of course, he's generally full of s*** concerning offers on the table. Who knows, that amount could get it done as ST approaches?

[mosox]

Is Millwood really a need right now? It seems to me the FO should be looking for a centerfielder and shortstop instead to running to Boras for another pitcher.

[yankeessuck013]

Millwood would be a great signing, but I think the main motive behind this move (if it happens) is to hold the upper hand in the pitching market with Wells/Clement/Arroyo being the chips needed for Glaus and or a CF and SS.

[stocker323]

Is Millwood really a need right now? It seems to me the FO should be looking for a centerfielder and shortstop instead to running to Boras for another pitcher.

 

Well if we lose an SP like Clement/Arroyo while we acquire a SS/OF there will be a gap at the bottom of the rotation. My hopes are is we have Millwood for 3 years max at the bottom of the rotation, we trade Clement or Arroyo for a Reed or Crisp or someone like that. Sign Pokey or Alex Gonzalez cheap for 1 year and perhaps go after someone next year.

[ksushi]

I would go to 45 million on Millwood, because yes this is absolutley a need.This team is one big question mark right now and will not compete if needs aren't adressed. If this newest deal for lugo goes through, I am going to be mad.

[elsrbueno]

I would go to 45 million on Millwood, because yes this is absolutley a need.This team is one big question mark right now and will not compete if needs aren't adressed. If this newest deal for lugo goes through, I am going to be mad.

 

Me too Ksushi, me too. I don't like the idea of Julio Lugo at all.

 

The problem with Kevin Millwood is two-fold:

 

1. he seems to always follow up a good season with a bad one. After each of his excellent seasons in Atlanta he followed them with significant drop offs in production. He's inconsistent enough that it has me concerned about a guaranteed 4 year contract worth that much money.

 

2. He's represented by Scott Boras. In a market where AJ Burnett, a sub-.500 pitcher gets a 5 year, $55 million deal Kevin Milwood has got to be saying "Sure, I'm older, but I've done a hell of a lot more than this kid has in his career." That is, I am sure, why Scott Boras suggested the bidding START at 5/$55.

 

Kevin Milwood is a decent pitcher. You always have to be skeptical IMO about pitchers that John Shurholtz and the Atlanta Braves give up on, and since leaving the Braves Milwood's had 2 mediocre seasons and one enigmatic season last year. How can you lead the league and have a sub .500 record on a playoff contender? Bad luck I suppose.

 

In today's market, considering Carl Pavano got $10 million, and Matt Clement got $8, it's a very reasonable assumption to say a guy like Kevin is probably worth at least Pavano money, so $11 seams reasonable upon further thought. The 5 year thing worries me, but I'd extend an offer to Kevin for 4 years, $44 million.

 

If he signs, you'd imagine Clement is a goner. I expect however that one of the teams desperate for pitching like Texas or Baltimore will go crazy and give Millwood a 5 year deal-- in which case Boston will no doubt be looking for other options.