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Manny + Clement for Tejada. The O's would proably spin Manny to someone else for a fornt of the roatation pitcher.

 

O's get rid of unhappy SS we get rid of unhappy LF and get insanely good SS. O's get front end pitching that they desperatly need. Everybody wins.

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Manny + Clement for Tejada. The O's would proably spin Manny to someone else for a fornt of the roatation pitcher.

 

O's get rid of unhappy SS we get rid of unhappy LF and get insanely good SS. O's get front end pitching that they desperatly need. Everybody wins.

 

yes i would love to get tejada as well, but i don't think we need to include clement, if there's anyone who should get a extra player its us because we'll prolly have to take on some a manny's contract, and tejada having a great glove at ss? uh no, the guy averages about 20 errors a year, but makes up for it with his bat and leadership

 

leadership is something the bosox need more of, tough hardworking players, manny is a space cadet with a huge salary...true the guy is a future HOF hitter, but think about it, whats his speech gonna be? he's a major space cadet with little work ethic...we need to be surrounded by hardworkers like tejada, ortiz, and players like erstad....i would do my proposed trade to trade manny to the angels and spin who we get to the Os, (look at my last posts)

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Don't get me wrong I don't want to trade Clement but I don't think the O's would do it with out getting a pitcher from us. I'm just trying to be as realistic as possible.
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I think things have just been set up too perfectly for this to work out. I don't know that the O's will move Tejada.

 

A source close to Tejada, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said Tejada would like to be traded to a team on the East Coast, and mentioned the Boston Red Sox as a possible destination.

 

sorry that I don't have a source for the story but it came to me via IM from a credible source.

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Don't get me wrong I don't want to trade Clement but I don't think the O's would do it with out getting a pitcher from us. I'm just trying to be as realistic as possible.

 

 

Yeah but if a more realistic one would prolly be arroyo, he's much cheaper and younger

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In that case do you think we will move Manny?

I've never really thought Manny was going to be traded, and have been against it from the begining, but I will admit I would trade Manny for Tejada. Manny and Tejada are unhappy and we could change that. I dont realistically see it happening, but like I said I wouldn't be against it.

 

If hell froze over and a deal got done either by 3 way or straight up Manny for Tejada it would open up a spot in LF for Marte which would actually make the Renteria trade seem like a great move. That's exactly why I think it wont happen ... everything just seems too perfect.

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Miguel Tejada Wants Out

I had received a few tips from readers about Miguel Tejada possibly being traded. I didn't print anything because I couldn't substantiate them. Turns out those readers were on target; today Tejada said, "I think the best thing will be a change of scenery." You can bet Tejada's proclamation will get the hot stove buzzing once again.

 

It's a strange thing for Tejada to say, given that the Orioles have several months left to improve their team. He said that the Orioles "have not made any signings to strengthen the club." If I were Ramon Hernandez, I'd be slightly offended by that remark. And to think the two were teammates for so many years.

 

Anyway, let's begin with Tejada's contract. He'll make $10MM in '06, $12MM in '07, $13MM in '08, and $13MM in '09. That's $48MM over four years. He'd certainly snag more than that on the open market. Tejada isn't even 30 yet, and you know all about his offensive accolades and durability. One mild sign of a possible decline is that Tejada slugged only .416 after the All-Star break in '05, hitting seven home runs. Still, that's only 300 ABs and he may have felt uninspired.

 

Here's what we're all wondering: where might Tejada end up?

 

Boston Red Sox. Of course, they have a huge need for a shortstop and plenty of cash. There's even an article circulating saying that Tejada might want to play for the Red Sox. The Sox could offer up Jon Lester and Dustin Pedroia for starters. The one little problem is that the Orioles still consider themselves competitive, and would probably be reluctant to trade within the division. Back when the Red Sox dealt Curt Schilling and Brady Anderson to the Orioles for Mike Boddicker, the O's were completely out of the race.

 

Chicago Cubs. I'm thinking that if Jim Hendry removes Felix Pie from the "untouchables" list, the Orioles would seriously consider shipping Tejada their way. If the Cubs included Ronny Cedeno to take Tejada's vacant spot, a deal could get done quickly. (This is all speculation, of course).

 

from mlbtraderumors

 

i might be willing to give up pedroia, lester and some one else for a guy like tejada. id rather give up delcarmen instead of lester

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from mlbtraderumors

 

i might be willing to give up pedroia, lester and some one else for a guy like tejada. id rather give up delcarmen instead of lester

 

 

yeah definately pedroia because of loretta now

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from mlbtraderumors

 

i might be willing to give up pedroia, lester and some one else for a guy like tejada. id rather give up delcarmen instead of lester

Wow I want Tejada as much as anyone but why are we suddenly turning into the Yankees trading away all of our top prospects?

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Well we would get A relatively young SS, who plays every game and puts up good numbers. But I do agree with you MC, I dont want to just start emptying our farm system and go back to the way it was under the duquette era
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Wow I want Tejada as much as anyone but why are we suddenly turning into the Yankees trading away all of our top prospects?
When you get a chance to get a guy like Tejada who's not that old yet you virtually have to give up at least 2 of your top prospects. I would give up Lester because we have a lot of young pitching but I don't think I would give up Pedroia.
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SOX-- Tejada (all-star SS, who isnt even 30 years old yet)

 

O'S-- Lester(future #2 starter), Pedroia (will be an average to above-average 2b or SS), youk (would start at 1st for them, above average hitter) and clement (gives them a 2 or 3 starter)

 

probaly wont happen, but i would be willing to make this deal. just because we get rid of pedroia and lester doesnt mean we are emptying are farm system. we have marte, papelbon, hansen, delcarmen, moss, ellsbury, soto, lowrie, buchholz, etc.) This trade would benefit the Red Sox now, and shouldnt hurt us for the future.

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I really dont think the Sox would be willing to give up Lester. Why else did they balk when teams asked for him over Sanchez? Because he is almost writen in stone for their plans, setting up to be a part of the 2007 young solid rotation they are envisioning.
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I really dont think the Sox would be willing to give up Lester. Why else did they balk when teams asked for him over Sanchez? Because he is almost writen in stone for their plans, setting up to be a part of the 2007 young solid rotation they are envisioning.

 

they also havnt been offered the best SS in the game for him.

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he hasnt missed a game since 2000 (2000 he missed 2 games and in 1999 he missed 3)

he is averaging 30 hrs and 125 rbis a year

hes a gold-glove caliber SS

doesnt strike out much and his OBP is .350 with a .500 slg%

he would protect manny and ortiz in the lineup (hed probaly bat 5, maybe 2)

won MVP in 2002 and has been to 3 allstar games

he is a very good clubhouse guy and a leader

he is one of the hardest working players in the game today

and hes only 29 years old

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did i shut down a trade for tejada?? no i didnt

 

you dont need to give me his stats dude, i know them all.

 

(1) I just pointed out that I highly regard Lester and know he has a place here in Boston. Nothing wrong with me doing so.

 

(2) These are all just speculated talks, no official announcements have come yet if the Orioles will trade him and to what teams.

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he hasnt missed a game since 2000 (2000 he missed 2 games and in 1999 he missed 3)

he is averaging 30 hrs and 125 rbis a year

hes a gold-glove caliber SS

doesnt strike out much and his OBP is .350 with a .500 slg%

he would protect manny and ortiz in the lineup (hed probaly bat 5, maybe 2)

won MVP in 2002 and has been to 3 allstar games

he is a very good clubhouse guy and a leader

he is one of the hardest working players in the game today

and hes only 29 years old

 

My favorite line in this whole thread...

 

A.K.A. KEEP MANNY. If we were at all possible to KEEP Manny and get him it would be amazing, but everyone seems so willing to unload him to any given suitor. Why is beyond me...:dunno: :dunno: :dunno: <_>

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My favorite line in this whole thread...

 

A.K.A. KEEP MANNY. If we were at all possible to KEEP Manny and get him it would be amazing, but everyone seems so willing to unload him to any given suitor. Why is beyond me...:dunno: :dunno: :dunno: <_>

 

there is almost no way manny is being traded, its just too complicated

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Look people need to settle down, just because he said he wants to get traded and wants to get traded to Boston does not mean all of a sudden youre future doesnt mean anything and you give it all up for him. This guy does not guarentee a world series win, he doesn't even fully replace manny offensivley. To maximize production he is not protecting ortiz, but ortiz would need to bat clean up to protect him which means that they will not produce offensivley the way manny and ortiz did so your lineup is down graded. You defense is upgraded, BUT I'd prefer to upgrade the defense via free agency and keep manny. Although I might do a Manny for Tejada deal given the right finances, Tejada was just involved in a slight steroid scandal although nothing too serious, I just want to use that to kill the collective hard on for this guy.

 

He isn't worth lester, he isnt worth papelbon nor marte nor pedroia, no. He is not worth the future. I know, Tejada Ortiz and Manny 3-4-5 sounds better than getting in what bill clinton wouldn't call sex from the hot weather lady on channel 5, but it actually isn't. Shes really hot, and this guy isn't worth the future.

 

Why does everyone always want to trade lester?

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To get Tejada, the O's wouldn't want to take on a lot of Salary and they certainly don't want high contract players either. So it would probably be like Lester, Youkilis/Marte, Arroyo, and maybe more. I have a feeling there is more to this than meets the eye, I wanna see how this plays out as the week goes on.
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To get Tejada, the O's wouldn't want to take on a lot of Salary and they certainly don't want high contract players either. So it would probably be like Lester, Youkilis/Marte, Arroyo, and maybe more. I have a feeling there is more to this than meets the eye, I wanna see how this plays out as the week goes on.

 

You are probably right about the money deal...and possibly right about more going on. Never know...I would have never thought that Renteria would be dished out, so short of trading Ortiz, I wouldn't be very suprised.

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