Official College Basketball Thread

[god is a redsox FAN]

congrats big east. Another team goes down, and UConn holds on barely against a west coast team. Anyone still think the Big East and ACC is the best conf? Only one east coast team left....

[YanksHater213]

I love how everyone is blaming the refs for BCs loss. It was their inability to hit a jumpshot that f***ed them. They werent calling anything all game at either end of the floor. There may have been one or two bad calls but other than that, the refs were consistent all game. If BC had a few guys who could hit jumpshots so they didnt need to bust it in to Smith everytime I guarantee you they would have won.

 

One other question though, what the hell was Al Skinner thinking not putting in Tyrese Rice in the second half?

[See Red]

BC got screwed by bad calls.

 

UCONN, yeeeaaaaah. Marcus Williams is THE MAN.

 

Yeah, Marcus Williams is the man. I was pissed off at him at times for turnovers that he should've known better than to pass and committ, but he made up for it at the line and with clutch plays in OT. Like that one where he tried to throw it downcourt off his backfoot when UConn was down 1 and it got turned over, and it put Washington up 3, and then the next UConn possession, Williams fired up and missed a 3. Oh well, he made up for it. Amazing game. Hopefully that kick starts 'em!

[Cityofchampions33]

congrats big east. Another team goes down, and UConn holds on barely against a west coast team. Anyone still think the Big East and ACC is the best conf? Only one east coast team left....

You realize that the NCAA tournament has nothing to do with judging what the ebst conference is right?

[stocker323]

congrats big east. Another team goes down, and UConn holds on barely against a west coast team. Anyone still think the Big East and ACC is the best conf? Only one east coast team left....

 

One east coast team left? Well there's UConn, Villanova, Florida and George Mason so in my book that counts as 4. And yes I do think the Big East is the best conference and going by your method they still have 2 teams left in the tournament which is just as many as any other conference in the tourney so I don't know where you're going with that one.

[ORS]

Watch out Stocker, GIARSF will get on your case about putting Florida and GMU in that group since his true rant is really about the overratedness of the Big East and the ACC. You know, the two conferences that have produced 6 out the last 7 national champions, including the last 5 in a row. Clearly those conferences deserve no national attention, and the media should spend a lot more time focussing on the SEC. [/sarcasm]

[CrespoBlows]

BC lost because they fell asleep with three seconds left on the clock. Seriously, how the hell do you allow someone to get that wide open?

[KeepTheFaith1229]

BC lost because they fell asleep with three seconds left on the clock. Seriously, how the hell do you allow someone to get that wide open?

 

Yeah, true, Al Skinner after the game said they were watching the perimeter shooters.

[YanksHater213]

So you have to have all 5 guys on the team watch 3 guards and let Sheridan get free? Im telling you, if BC had a few decent jumpshooters that game would have been much different. They still could have won even without a decent jumpshooter, but they just broke down in the end. This team was a JJ Redick/ Adam Morrison (maybe not up on their skill levels, but someone who can run around picks and hit jumpshots like its their job) type player away from doing major damage this year, and probably in the tournament.

[god is a redsox FAN]

Watch out Stocker, GIARSF will get on your case about putting Florida and GMU in that group since his true rant is really about the overratedness of the Big East and the ACC. You know, the two conferences that have produced 6 out the last 7 national champions, including the last 5 in a row. Clearly those conferences deserve no national attention, and the media should spend a lot more time focussing on the SEC. [/sarcasm]

Yea those 2 great conf. The two great conf. that has 2 great teams in the Tournament, that can barely win a game.I don't care as 2 conf. they equal out to win the last 6. UK still has 7. SEC is so underrated, and the east coast is overrated.

[ORS]

Yea those 2 great conf. The two great conf. that has 2 great teams in the Tournament, that can barely win a game.I don't care as 2 conf. they equal out to win the last 6. UK still has 7. SEC is so underrated, and the east coast is overrated.

Who cares what UK did in the '50s? I'm talking about recent history, which is what you should be looking at when determining the strongest basketball conferences. There are 5 conferences that have been stronger in the tournament than the SEC has the last 5-7 years (recent history), and they are the ACC, Big-East, Big-10, Big-12, and Pac-10.

 

BTW, by your loopy logic, the Pac-10 is the best basketball conference now becuase of what UCLA did in the '60s/'70s. Sometimes it is just better to keep your mouth shut and let everyone think you are fool than it is to say something and prove them right.

[god is a redsox FAN]

see here's your problem. You guys are stuck in your own lil worlds, you have no idea whats going on outside of east coast ball. You wanna talk recent basketball history, then lets get real recent. Lets look at the fact an SEC team has beaten the number 1 team overall, which was an ACC team. Lets look at how well your east coast teams are doing in the tourney. But tomorrow is where will get our bragging rights. Florida and Nova tomorrow. Florida wins then i'll start talking about more recent history. How does that sound.

[KeepTheFaith1229]

My final four was LSU, Nova, UNC(<_ and ucla.>

 

Originally posted by god is a redsox FAN!

LSU??? AN SEC team??

[Youk Of The Nation]

Sigh. Is UCONN out of it yet?

[KeepTheFaith1229]

Sigh. Is UCONN out of it yet?

 

Nope.

[Youk Of The Nation]

Ugh. I wish theyd lose already.

[ORS]

see here's your problem. You guys are stuck in your own lil worlds, you have no idea whats going on outside of east coast ball. You wanna talk recent basketball history, then lets get real recent. Lets look at the fact an SEC team has beaten the number 1 team overall, which was an ACC team. Lets look at how well your east coast teams are doing in the tourney. But tomorrow is where will get our bragging rights. Florida and Nova tomorrow. Florida wins then i'll start talking about more recent history. How does that sound.

It sounds incredibly shortsighted, but at this point I've come to expect that from you. The SEC is having a good year. The best year it has had since UK won in '98. That still doesn't make it's recent history any better than the other conferences that I mentioned. Now, if Memphis comes back and UCLA goes home AND Florida beats 'Nova, then I'll rank the SEC over the Pac-10. But, that isn't enough to put them over the other four. Look at the final four appearances by conference since '99.

 

ACC - 8

Big10 - 8

Big12 - 5

BigEast - 3

CUSA - 2 (Marquette and Louisville, now both in the Big East)

Pac10 - 1 (now 2 with UCLA)

SEC - 1 (now 2 with LSU)

 

Look, before I'm a fan of any team, I'm a college hoops fan. Sure, the team I like best is Duke, but I have teams I like in just about every conference. When I look at powerhouse conferences, I look for highly competitive conferences that demonstrate success in the tournament for a period of time. The SEC just hasn't done that. In the last 7 years, the SEC has produced a couple of very good UF teams and an excellent UK team that was upset by the best player in college ball that year, Dwayne Wade. Other than that, the conference has been pretty lackluster. For you to think it is better than it has been demonstrates how far removed you are from reality. I can appreciate that you love the conference your favorite team plays in, but that doesn't make it any better.

 

EDIT: To be fair, and for Moose, I added UCLA in there.

[Moose]

Final 4 Baby!

 

 

U C L A

[Manny Goes Boom]

It sounds incredibly shortsighted, but at this point I've come to expect that from you. The SEC is having a good year. The best year it has had since UK won in '98. That still doesn't make it's recent history any better than the other conferences that I mentioned. Now, if Memphis comes back and UCLA goes home AND Florida beats 'Nova, then I'll rank the SEC over the Pac-10. But, that isn't enough to put them over the other four. Look at the final four appearances by conference since '99.

 

ACC - 8

Big10 - 8

Big12 - 5

BigEast - 3

CUSA - 2 (Marquette and Louisville, now both in the Big East)

Pac10 - 1 (now 2 with UCLA)

SEC - 1 (now 2 with LSU)

 

Look, before I'm a fan of any team, I'm a college hoops fan. Sure, the team I like best is Duke, but I have teams I like in just about every conference. When I look at powerhouse conferences, I look for highly competitive conferences that demonstrate success in the tournament for a period of time. The SEC just hasn't done that. In the last 7 years, the SEC has produced a couple of very good UF teams and an excellent UK team that was upset by the best player in college ball that year, Dwayne Wade. Other than that, the conference has been pretty lackluster. For you to think it is better than it has been demonstrates how far removed you are from reality. I can appreciate that you love the conference your favorite team plays in, but that doesn't make it any better.

 

EDIT: To be fair, and for Moose, I added UCLA in there.

 

You probably know this but Memphis plays in CUSA

[Ray10]

I've only caught some of this tournament but I was really surprised to see Duke and North Carolina get knocked out. The Final Four is going to be really interesting.

[YanksHater213]

I dont really know if it matters, but I would like to point out to GIARSF that the SEC stands for the southEASTERN conference, so yeah, thats East Coast ball as well.

[god is a redsox FAN]

ok yankshater, let me clarify for you, when i say east coast ball, i mean ACC, and Big East, i'm to lazy to type it out

[See Red]

GIARSF, where were you talking up your precious SEC when UConn sleep-walked through a game with Kentucky and still managed to win a game in which UConn was a shell of themselves and Kentucky played the best basketball they're capable of playing?

 

If you're going to do nothing but bitch about whom we happen to talk about, then please refrain from posting in this thread because, obviously, nobody else wants to here it. We've given you all sorts of reasons why it's the case.

 

So please, either shut up with this or provide a take that's worth a s***.

[god is a redsox FAN]

are you f***ing kidding me?? seriously... there isn't anything i can say, that you wouldn't s*** yourself about. Provide a take that's worth s***?? It doesn't matter what anyone would say, all of you guys have an east coast bias... so anything said bad about the east coast, you would try to argue with.

[ORS]

are you f***ing kidding me?? seriously... there isn't anything i can say, that you wouldn't s*** yourself about. Provide a take that's worth s***?? It doesn't matter what anyone would say, all of you guys have an east coast bias... so anything said bad about the east coast, you would try to argue with.

No. I'll agree with when your point is valid. Saying the SEC is a better basketball conference than the Big-East or ACC isn't valid. That's not biased, that's reality. Deal with it.

[YanksHater213]

Big East > ACC > SEC

 

What I did was, I went to NBADraft.net (awesome site, btw) and tallied up all of the people from these 3 conferences getting picked, 2 points if they were projected to be a first rounder, 1 if they were projected to be a 2nd rounder.

 

I found the Big East to get 19 points

 

I found the ACC to get 12 points

 

I found the SEC to get 8 points

 

19 > 12 > 8

[See Red]

UConn shows how easily they can break open a game towards the end there and goes into the half with a 9 point lead. I'm stating the obvious here, but George Mason doesn't have a prayer if they keep giving Rashad Anderson and Marcus Williams open looks from 3.

[See Red]

Nice little flop to get the 4 point play for George Mason. Jesus... this team can shoot -- we're not exactly doing much to stop them with open look after open look.

[Beckett95]

how is george mason winning this game. Uconn should be blowing them out. Jeff Adrien from UConn's having a good game for himself. I remember watching him play at Brookline high, and how dominant he was

[jsinger121]

Mason is no pushover.....any team that beats North Carolina and Michigan State two final four teams of a year ago should not be taken lightly.