The Second Coming!: Papelbon comfirmed for Game 2 vs the Detroit Tigers

[riverside sluggers]

Remlinger is likely to be called down to Triple A, or even a possible DFA.

 

According to the Boston Herald, the Red Sox are expected to recall Jon Papelbon from Triple-A to sub for Wade Miller (shoulder).Papelbon would start Tuesday against the Tigers, despite having pitched in relief at Triple-A since being sent down earlier this month.

[yeszir]

Anyone is better to have on the roster right now than Remlinger. What a disappointment. If pap pitches like he did last time, I'll definitely get excited.

[riverside sluggers]

Apparently Clement had urged the front office to get Remlinger, one of his friends while on the Chicago Cubs. A big oops on his part, and the front office will probably not hear any ideas from him for awhile.

[yankeessuck013]

woo hoo, ecited for another start from Paps

[Sizzlin22]

I would actually rather have Jermi Gonzalez start this game. I really want Pap to be getting ready for the pen.

[Irish Jay]

I really like the looks of Papelbon. The Sox really need to see what he has. I think he truly could be a great pitcher and it makes it even nicer because he has came up through the entire Red Sox organization. Wade Miller isn't going to be the answer come playoff time. His arm is hanging on by a thread and you can't afford to have a pitcher who is going to give up 2 or 3 runs in the first inning every start.

[yankeessuck013]

My guess would be that Papelbon comes up Tuesday as Remlinger gets DFA. Papelbon would then stay in the rotation until Miller comes back at which point Papelbon would go to the bullpen. If Miller doesn't return, it would depend on if Schilling will go to the rotation or not.

[yankeessuck013]

I hope it's Remlinger but isn't it also possible that Manny D. is optioned? He's not getting any quality innings anyway.

[sarasoxfan]

I agree with sizzlin on this one, but I like paps a lot. so it's all good,

what my concern these days is revoles around schilling's weakness as a closer, and my fear that foulke wont be any good. I dont think we have a a contingency plan for a foulke that is the same or God forbid worse than before..

[riverside sluggers]

agree with you there, Wade Miller just doesnt have it, and question is will he still be in a Sox uniform com April?? Just because Papelbon could become a starter by next season, Bronson Arroyo said he sees himself as in the long reliever mode in 06, and Gordon Edes said Sox will be back to pursuiting AJ Burnett in the off-season

[stocker323]

agree with you there, Wade Miller just doesnt have it, and question is will he still be in a Sox uniform com April?? Just because Papelbon could become a starter by next season, Bronson Arroyo said he sees himself as in the long reliever mode in 06, and Gordon Edes said Sox will be back to pursuiting AJ Burnett in the off-season

I think the Sox will give Miller a full offseason to try to build his arm strength up, because last year probably wasn't a normal offseason for Miller. They will give him time to see how he does with a normal offseason workout, but I wouldn't be surprised to see the Sox cut him loose early next year if he doesn't work out.

[BoSox21]

I think the Sox are looking to bolster the pitching staff in the off-season regardless of what happens but I like Papelbon as the starter

[Sox fan in Tex]

The good thing is how much of a pitchers park, Comerica is. So a guy like Papelbon should hopefully be fine in such a forgiving park a Detroit.

[1904]

The good thing is how much of a pitchers park, Comerica is. So a guy like Papelbon should hopefully be fine in such a forgiving park a Detroit.

This is a great point you bring up here, let's hope he can give the team atleast 7 great inn.

 

Also I love that this is at the bottom of all your post "R.I.P. Yankee Dynasty"

Hell i live in Tampa and have to drive by the stinkee's training camp and look at that sign

39 pens 26 "championshits" They day after the Sox became Champs a group of us were going to hang a giant banner on the gate there, but to many cops were around.

1904/2004

[mosox]

Remlinger shouldn't even waste a seat on the plane for the roadtrip. The only thing that is of concern is Papelbon went down to close games and now he comes up to start? What's the plan with this kid? Is there a plan? Obviously Schilling isn't ready to start, and I'm beginning to question if he will now at all this year. It's time to get this rotation in order with 6 games with NY and 7 with Toronto next month.

[sarasoxfan]

i didnt see anything official on the status of remlinger. man, he sucks, though.

[YanksHater213]

I dunno if I like this idea of having Papelbon start if we want him to be a reliever, but whatever, I am sure he will do fine.

[elsrbueno]

I thought Gonzalez was best suited to make this start, just because it seemed the organization was bent on not only limiting Papelbon's innings for the rest of the season, but also getting him prepared for contributing to the Red Sox as a reliever for the end of the season.

 

Seems to me like he isn't going to be a starter for the remainder of the season, because the team still wants to limit his workload. Maybe they're calling him up now so he'll be on the roster before August 31st and eligable for the playoffs? Just a thought.

 

Papelbon was very good against Minnesota and hopefully will have a good start against the Tigers. Looks like this kid has a bright future (knock on wood)

[soxie thefangirl]

I thought they didn't announce this yet. On the post game show last night they said it wouldn't be announced till after tonight's game.

[riverside sluggers]

yesterday from the bostonherald.com

 

Papelbon expected back

 

The Red Sox appear to have settled on recalling Jon Papelbon from Triple-A Pawtucket to fill in for injured starter Wade Miller.

 

Two players said before the game that they were told Papelbon would be called up to make the start Tuesday night in Detroit, even though the 24-year-old right-hander has been pitching in relief for the PawSox since being returned to the minors on Aug. 2. Papelbon made his major league debut July 31 but didn't receive a decision in a 4-3 win over the Minnesota Twins. He allowed three runs (two earned) on four hits and five walks in a 5 1/3-inning start, while striking out seven.

 

Two days later, Papelbon was sent back to the minors. He was put in the bullpen because he was approaching the undisclosed innings limit that the organization established for him prior to the season. By shifting to a relief role, the Red Sox reasoned that Papelbon would still be fresh for a September recall. The PawSox, however, have kept him stretched out.

 

Papelbon threw three perfect innings (four strikeouts) of relief on Thursday to preserve Lenny DiNardo's win for the PawSox. DiNardo, who is lined up to make his next start Tuesday, was one of the other options to take the spot of Miller (shoulder), along with Double-A Portland's Jon Lester.

[mosox]

Papelbon needs to be closing. Not starting. Let this kid hurl gas for 3 outs.

[MC Hammer]

OK I know everyones really excited about this, and I am too, but lets not all go jumping off the Wade Miller band wagon just yet. With the surgery he had it will take a full season of throwing for him to regain full strength in his arm, and yes there are going to be bumps along the way. The Sox will not release Wade by any means during the season, or before next.

 

I believe that Theo got him just to hold down the fort this year until Schilling was 100%, which he did for the most part. I think he also got him for what he's going to bring to this team next year. If by the start of next year he is 100% then you're looking at one of the cheapest All Star pitchers in the league. Just don't start bitching about Wade like your did about Rents, because I think it's gonna come back to bite you in the ass the same way.

[riverside sluggers]

ah damn it all to hell, what was speculation that Remlinger would be sent down to Triple A to make room for Papelbon was false. Instead it will be Delcarmen sent back down to Pawtucket. Nope Im not much of a fan of Remlinger so far, once he starts getting "actual" outs, then we'll talk

[mosox]

How Remlinger can stay and Delcarmen goes with this bullpen situation is beyond reason.

The pitching is getting desperate and I can't make sense of these moves.

[sarasoxfan]

nothing surprises me anymore. the fact that schilling is still the closer is ridiculous.

the fact that remlinger isnt already in a babe ruth league is bizarre. The fact that people in here are counting out the yankees already defies my imagination. The fact that some poeple still can conjure a case not to send millar packing makes me think that there is serious crystal meth problem in the nation.

[elsrbueno]

nothing surprises me anymore. the fact that schilling is still the closer is ridiculous.

the fact that remlinger isnt already in a babe ruth league is bizarre. The fact that people in here are counting out the yankees already defies my imagination. The fact that some poeple still can conjure a case not to send millar packing makes me think that there is serious crystal meth problem in the nation.

 

The problem with keeping Delcarmen on the roster is that Francona is obviously reluctant to use him in anything that resembles a critical spot. Since the Red Sox haven't been blowing people away lately, Delcarmen hasn't been getting any work. He's probably better off in Pawtucket because he can log some innings and potentially pitch in close games.

 

This organization as a whole is reluctant to give young guys playing time. They had no choice last year when Bill Mueller got hurt and threw Youkilis into the fire where he did well. With Bellhorn struggling, the team refused to go to a young player. With Millar stinking it up, Youkilis still rots on the bench. Adam Stern has been limited to pinch running duty with the Sox.

 

Delcarmen suffered the same fate. Papelbon will make his second MLB start tonight, but only under EXTREME circumstances-- the Red Sox have no other option.

 

I hope Papelbon dazzles tonight and gives the team no other choice but to keep him.

[Sox Fan on Cape]

The problem with keeping Delcarmen on the roster is that Francona is obviously reluctant to use him in anything that resembles a critical spot. Since the Red Sox haven't been blowing people away lately, Delcarmen hasn't been getting any work. He's probably better off in Pawtucket because he can log some innings and potentially pitch in close games.

 

This organization as a whole is reluctant to give young guys playing time. They had no choice last year when Bill Mueller got hurt and threw Youkilis into the fire where he did well. With Bellhorn struggling, the team refused to go to a young player. With Millar stinking it up, Youkilis still rots on the bench. Adam Stern has been limited to pinch running duty with the Sox.

 

Delcarmen suffered the same fate. Papelbon will make his second MLB start tonight, but only under EXTREME circumstances-- the Red Sox have no other option.

 

I hope Papelbon dazzles tonight and gives the team no other choice but to keep him.

 

Question : Is that because they're worried about ruining them ( mentally ) or because they don't trust them ?

[soxie thefangirl]

I think they don't trust the guys. Don't give them enough credit.

[elsrbueno]

Question : Is that because they're worried about ruining them ( mentally ) or because they don't trust them ?

 

Got me. I can only guess that it's a little of both. I can understand (to a point) not ruining them mentally by having them fail because they're not ready. And of course it's less of a mental blow if you come in with your team up 10-1 and you give up 3 runs to make it 10-5 than if you come in with a 6-4 lead and you allow 3 runs to lose it... but my take on it is this:

 

If you brought them up, you obviously think they're ready. No player in the history of baseball was great every game, so these players are going to have to get used to failure. If they can't handle failure, they can't possibly succeed at the Major League level. So why not find out what they're made of? Manny Delcarmen for example pitched well in a few outings, gave up 3 runs to the Twins, but was able to make 2 solid relief appearances after that. He's made 3 good appearances, 1 bad (1 where he recorded only an out isn't counted as good or bad here).

 

As far as Kevin Youkils goes-- no idea. He's proven he can hold his own at the big league level when Billy Mueller went down. The team's infatuation with Kevin Millar robs Youkilis of valuable ABs. I can understand not starting Youk over Mueller, but there's no reason Youk shouldn't be seeing more time at first base.

 

Dustin Pedroia was going to be called up before he got hurt. That's tough luck for him really, but it could be a blessing in that he gets the rest of the year to develop, and the Red Sox were able to bring in Tony Graffanino, who's been WONDERFUL for this team.

 

I guess Terry tends to trust the veterans more than the rookies as a general rule, because I don't think they're worried too much about ruining these kids mentally.

[yankeessuck013]

Actually, I'd like to see Paps start taking a regular turn in the rotation this year. With Schill probably not getting back to full strength this year and really having no other #1 starter, our prospects for this year aren't the best anyway. So why keep pushing Miller to the max or overextending Schill? Right now is as good a time as any to start getting Paps ready for next years role as the #5 starter.