Yankees Get Nomo

[yankeessuck013]

July 27, 2005 -- Hideo Nomo may not have much left, but the Yankees think he might be better than what they have.

 

That's why the veteran right-hander will be signed to a minor league contract and assigned to Columbus (Triple-A) after he clears waivers today and becomes a free agent. Nomo was designated for assignment by the Devil Rays on July 16 and released Monday.

 

"I wouldn't comment on that," GM Brian Cashman said when asked about Nomo going to Columbus.

 

However, that's what will happen. So can Nomo, who was 5-8 with a 7.24 ERA for the Devil Rays, help the Yankees?

 

Considering Aaron Small starts tomorrow and nobody knows who gets the ball Saturday, anybody could help. Because Nomo hasn't pitched since July 15, it's not likely he would be able to pitch Saturday. More likely is Nomo pitching at least one game for the Clippers before being considered for a promotion.

 

Nomo, 36, has resurrected his career once and could do it again, although he didn't show much this year for the Devil Rays. One of his five wins was against the Yankees.

 

After going 8-12 for the Tigers in 2000, many believed Nomo was finished. However, he won 45 games in the next three seasons pitching for the Red Sox and Dodgers. Last year he was 4-11 for the Dodgers and signed an $800,000 contract with the Devil Rays.

 

He has a 123-109 record in 320 games.

 

hahhaha, another disaster I say...he might pitch 1 good game like leiter but not likely

 

When you're getting released by the DEVIL RAYS, then I can only draw one conclusion: YOU'RE HORRIBLE!!!

[MC Hammer]

This, coupled with the fact that they were calling about Mark Redman from the Pirates, makes me love what the Yankees are doing right now. They're basically acting like the Yankees always do. Going out and filling needs with name players. Just now those name players are past their prime, and being released by other teams. If Nomo is the answer to the Yankee pitching woes than maybe I should try out for the team.

[yankeessuck013]

do you think the yankees pitching problems are worse this year or last year? I mean javy vazquez was at least decent for half the year, right?

[riverside sluggers]

omg, haha I think steinbrenner is getting loopy in his old age, why does he keep signing these hasbeens? Darrell May sent back to minors after red sox outing giving up 6 runs in the 17-1 win, Tim Redding started 17-1 win giving up 6 runs and was escorted from Fenway Park after 5th inning who has been designated for assignment that same night, Al Leiter showed in his second start why Florida Marlins released him, wow ok now Hideo Nomo. I was at the sox/d-rays game that sox got to him early like 8 runs in the first 3 innings.

pre-season:

1. Randy Johnson

2. Mike Mussina

3. Carl Pavano- injured///Chien Ming Wang- also injured

4. Kevin Brown- injured... again

5. Jaret Wright- injured

pre trade deadline:

1. Randy Johnson (Randy & Mike the only consistent, good starting pitchers Yankees have

2. Mike Mussina

3. Al Leiter

4. Aaron Small

5. Hideo Nomo

 

In 2005 its clear the Yankees only buy the best money can buy, the best to help the red sox stay on top that is

[elsrbueno]

do you think the yankees pitching problems are worse this year or last year? I mean javy vazquez was at least decent for half the year, right?

 

Way worse this year IMO. Last year they had Jon Lieber who was solid, and Orlando Hernandez made a pretty good showing in the second half last year. They had Kevin Brown more often (and he wasn't as bad if you can believe that). They desperately need Pavano healthy and effective, or some combination of the new guys to find themselves. I can't imagine these guys hanging in the race with 2 effective pitchers.

 

This year they've got a better 1-2 punch with Johnson and Mussina, but the rotation is really only two deep.

 

Just because you're released by the Devil Rays doesn't necessarily mean you're finished-- John Burkett was released by them a few years back and was ressurected in Atlanta.... that having been said, Nomo doesn't seem to have much left this season.

[riverside sluggers]

well Carl Pavano has been pushed back to mid-August. And really most of the time ERA's dont lie, Nomo was 5-8 with a 7.24 ERA. in 100 innings pitched, he gave up 16 homeruns, striking out 59 but also walking high count at 51

[Boogie]

I don't think the Yankees feel Nomo is the answer. Basically they are doing the strategy of "throw enough s*** against the wall and some is bound to stick".

 

....paraphrasing a another poster on another board... Pitching is kinda like sex, everyone wants, not everyone gets it. But when you are desperate, you will pick up just about anything off the street.

[Boogie]

well Carl Pavano has been pushed back to mid-August. And really most of the time ERA's dont lie, Nomo was 5-8 with a 7.24 ERA. in 100 innings pitched, he gave up 16 homeruns, striking out 59 but also walking high count at 51

Pavano is supposed to be back this weekend supposedly, Wright is coming back in August and will be put in the bullpen, and Wang has been working out and feeling no pain.

[yankeessuck013]

....paraphrasing a another poster on another board... Pitching is kinda like sex, everyone wants, not everyone gets it. But when you are desperate, you will pick up just about anything off the street.

 

haha...yep that is my sig on another forum, got it off the YES Boards, boy are they funny

[YankeeDoodle]

Pavano is supposed to be back this weekend supposedly, Wright is coming back in August and will be put in the bullpen, and Wang has been working out and feeling no pain.

I don't trust reports on Wang...poor kid to have Mel evaluating him. Hmph. Hope he gets well soon.

 

I was thinking that if I duct-taped BBB and Wright together, I might actually get an effective start. But BBB is now back on the DL. Hmph.

 

Pavano get his rehab start pushed back. Will see how he will do. Hmph.

 

Get F-Rod some work. Hmph.

 

-Desparate Yankee fan <_>

[riverside sluggers]

Wang does have the makings to be a caliber pitcher. in 2006 a pitching rotation that starts off johnson, mussina and wang will be a threat to most teams. I heard he has a shoulder inflammation, ouch hopes ges better from that

[Boogie]

Wang does have the makings to be a caliber pitcher. in 2006 a pitching rotation that starts off johnson, mussina and wang will be a threat to most teams. I heard he has a shoulder inflammation, ouch hopes ges better from that

Rumor was he was pitching injured this year, so his stuff may actually be better next year if he gets completely healthy.

[riverside sluggers]

Pavano is supposed to be back this weekend supposedly, Wright is coming back in August and will be put in the bullpen, and Wang has been working out and feeling no pain.

 

good to hear Wang hasnt been hurt so bad, but this was in yahoo sports news yesterday

 

Brown out again, Pavano pushed back

 

By RONALD BLUM, AP Sports Writer

July 26, 2005

NEW YORK (AP) -- Kevin Brown was scratched from his scheduled start Thursday because of his bad back and Carl Pavano's return from a shoulder injury was pushed back, leaving the New York Yankees uncertain about two turns in their rotation this week. Brown was on the disabled list from June 18 to July 18, then allowed 13 runs in 7 2-3 innings over starts at Texas and the Los Angeles Angels, getting a no-decision and a loss. He met with a Dr. Yechiel Kleen in Colorado, and Yankees manager Joe Torre said Tuesday that Brown wouldn't pitch until Brown's doctor and team physician Dr. Stuart Hershon talk with each other and come up with a plan.

 

"We're sort of just holding right now until the doctors give us the go-ahead,'' Torre said. Brown, who has chronic back pain and has been on the disabled list 13 times, came off the disabled list without any rehabilitation starts in the minors. He wouldn't address how fast he could return or whether he would be sidelined for the season. Neither he nor the Yankees divulged details of the latest diagnosis. "Pain has been a part for a long time,'' he said. "Obviously, it boils down to being able to go out and actually do the job on the field. It's not just velocity, it's movement, location, all those things are a part of it.''

 

Pavano, who hasn't pitched since June 27 because of a sore right shoulder, is to make a rehabilitation start Wednesday in the Gulf Coast League and throw 65-70 pitches. New York originally hoped he would start Saturday against the Angels. "We want him back 100 percent and ready to go and right,'' general manager Brian Cashman said. "We can't afford to stub our toe right now.'' Torre said the decision to bring Pavano along more slowly was made before the team heard from Brown, and that Brown's lack of a rehab start "could have influenced our thinking for sure because I had said in previous meetings here that Brownie sort of sucked it up for the club by coming back without doing a rehab.''

 

Aaron Small will get Brown's turn Thursday. He made his first major league start since 1996 last Wednesday and beat Texas for his first big league win since 1998. Jaret Wright, out since April 23 with a strained right shoulder, is to make his first rehab start Saturday, also for the Gulf Coast Yankees. The Yankees might use him in relief. "He could maybe come back sooner and help us out of the 'pen,'' Cashman said. "He's come a long way.'' Chien-Ming Wang, on the DL since July 9 with an inflamed right shoulder, is to start throwing on flat ground Monday at the Yankees' complex in Tampa, Fla.

 

"He's got a long way to go,'' Cashman said. Cashman wouldn't address whether the Yankees had any interest in signing pitcher Hideo Nomo, released by Tampa Bay. Even with the injuries, the Yankees began Tuesday just one game behind AL East-leading Boston. "We're very fortunate where we are right now considering the state of our starters,'' Torre said.

 

Notes

 

OF Ruben Sierra, who strained his right hamstring July 18, is taking batting practice and hopes to start a rehab assignment this weekend.

[YankeeDoodle]

Wang does have the makings to be a caliber pitcher. in 2006 a pitching rotation that starts off johnson, mussina and wang will be a threat to most teams. I heard he has a shoulder inflammation, ouch hopes ges better from that

WANG? I mean, WHO KNEW? Spend all that dough on NL pitchers who supposedly would make the smooth transition - and half of them are on the DL in the first-half, and it's a rookie with a paltry salary compared to those guys, who ends up being the best pitcher for the Yankees. What's wrong with this picture here...

 

I'm sure when the Yankees sign pitchers, they better have some caliber. But then...sorry Javy Vasquez? :dunno: Is it Stottlemyre? What IS it?!

 

Buh-bye BBB, 2006.

 

Wang's had shoulder surgery before this, so I hope it's not an aggrevated condition. Delivery seems to be fine, so it's weird why he would have these problems - what else is new that's unknown to the Yankees?

[Boogie]

I knew Wang was gonna be good. I hated the Wright signing most of all, because I knew Wang was ready and would step in and pitch in the majors like he has been there for 8 years.

[riverside sluggers]

are Wright and Brown even expected to pitch for yanks in 2006? im thinking it wont take much to say bye bye to brown

[YankeeDoodle]

Wright should be back most definitely at the start of next season; giving him bullpen work sometime in August is what they're looking at. Might not be such a bad idea since he does well for two innings, then uhh...we'll bring in F-Rod, or TanGorMo, or some other relievers.

 

BBB, go enjoy the generous 401k plan the Yankees gave you somewhere else. Shoo shoe!

[riverside sluggers]

i jiust find it funny that when schilling as closer was announced just about every sports analyst was callin the sox out for this, and saying it will be a disaster,w hich it hasnt really as schilling is starting to find his groove and hopefully into the rotation really soon. Now Chicago will be doing same thing with Kerry Wood, have him be in the bullpen. I think our boy Curt has unknowingly developed a new strategy with startin pitchers who are hurt

[bigpapi349]

kerry woods a disaster. he cant stay healthy for more than 2 weeks

[YankeeDoodle]

Yeah, you guys sure do start the trends.

 

Wood's situtation is different from Schilling's; they don't even know when and if he'll ever go back into the starting pitching rotation - some mechanical problems are taking a toll on his arm.

 

Shame though; when he pitched that absolute gem of a game '98 against the Astros when he struck out TWENTY!! Fastball was vapor...

 

Cubs will definitely need Prior to stay healthy.

[Sizzlin22]

I don't think Wood in the Bullen will last, they badly need him as a starter.

 

I can'r believe the Yankees took Nomo as soon as I heard he got released I said "No team in thier right mind would take him." Once again the Yankees never cease to amaze.

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

.......hahahahahaha

 

 

 

keep digging NY

[YankeeDoodle]

Old news, bud, old news. <_>

 

http://www.talksox.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3713

 

Tell me something I don't know? :dunno:

[YankeeDoodle]

They've ALWAYS needed him as a starter - he just CAN'T start. Big difference. Guy is a magnet to the DL. Some help is better than none?

 

Isn't it surprising that the 1-2 punch in Chicago is Buehrle-Garland...not Prior-Wood.

 

Yankees. Have. No. Pitching. Done. Said. Desparate? Yes. Have much of a choice? No.

 

Cash has actually shot down many trades - so it's not like he, or Tampa faction, or Steinbrenner, or whoever makes these deals, are jumping on every trade whim thrown their way. More ax might still fall before everything's said and done, though.

[26 to 6]

omg, haha I think steinbrenner is getting loopy in his old age, why does he keep signing these hasbeens? Darrell May sent back to minors after red sox outing giving up 6 runs in the 17-1 win, Tim Redding started 17-1 win giving up 6 runs and was escorted from Fenway Park after 5th inning who has been designated for assignment that same night, Al Leiter showed in his second start why Florida Marlins released him, wow ok now Hideo Nomo. I was at the sox/d-rays game that sox got to him early like 8 runs in the first 3 innings.

pre-season:

1. Randy Johnson

2. Mike Mussina

3. Carl Pavano- injured///Chien Ming Wang- also injured

4. Kevin Brown- injured... again

5. Jaret Wright- injured

pre trade deadline:

1. Randy Johnson (Randy & Mike the only consistent, good starting pitchers Yankees have

2. Mike Mussina

3. Al Leiter

4. Aaron Small

5. Hideo Nomo

 

In 2005 its clear the Yankees only buy the best money can buy, the best to help the red sox stay on top that is

Steinbrenner isnt signing them

 

...how come people always assume that when the Yankees make a move its always Steinbrenner behind it...this isnt 1985, we do have a pretty good GM and Front Office..George does very little in terms of transactions

 

...not that my statement was of any importance, just something i was thinking about

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i dont mind Nomo, i dont see any harm in giving him a shot.

[26 to 6]

are Wright and Brown even expected to pitch for yanks in 2006? im thinking it wont take much to say bye bye to brown

Browns a Free Agent, Wright is under contract, but i wouldnt be surprised if h was traded or used as a power arm in the pen..as thats what Cashman and Torre's goal is for him this year when he comes back in August (die to the surplux of starting pitching..bad as it may be)

[riverside sluggers]

alriiight then---"how come the yankees in general keep signing these hasbeens?"---hows that now

[26 to 6]

alriiight then---"how come the yankees in general keep signing these hasbeens?"---hows that now

well who would you reccomend we throw out there??

[Manny Goes Boom]

Yeah, you guys sure do start the trends.

 

Wood's situtation is different from Schilling's; they don't even know when and if he'll ever go back into the starting pitching rotation - some mechanical problems are taking a toll on his arm.

 

Shame though; when he pitched that absolute gem of a game '98 against the Astros when he struck out TWENTY!! Fastball was vapor...

 

Cubs will definitely need Prior to stay healthy.

 

Wood is like a walking house of cards. It's sorta sad how much him and Prior are hurt. And Prior was once said to have the best mechanics in baseball...what happened to that??? :dunno:

[riverside sluggers]

all im saying dude yankees digging themselves in the hole of rotation what it has been this year, mussina and johnson have been the only great consistent starters. Al Leiter wont be winning a cy young anytime soon, i watched last nite's gane on espn and he did what i think was the reason why florida let him go. in 5 innings 116 pitches, 7 hits, 5 walks, and hit a batter. He was so lucky Twins just scored one run while he was up on the mound or the scoreboard wouldve really been lighted up, bullpen after him didnt do any better giving up 6 runs