Mets sign CF Carlos Beltran

[Noah]

http://nymfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=301

 

Who better to report it than your residential Mets fan?

[Gertie]

According to ESPN.com, the deal is almost done, but not yet. They're about 4 or 5 million apart. The deal will probably be done by later today. I have to say, though, that the Mets are going out and spending a whole lot of money this offseason. All you Mets fans better hope something finally comes of it...

[I LOVE WOMENS VOLLEYBALL]

ya i hear theyr still goin for delgado even tho they signed beltran and pedro... this is on pace to be the most unenglish lockeroom ever

[Zenny]

ya i hear theyr still goin for delgado even tho they signed beltran and pedro... this is on pace to be the most unenglish lockeroom ever

This post is pretty "unenglish" too.

[Gertie]

Does anyone else find it ironic that he used the term unenglish?

 

EDIT: Damn, Zenny beat me to it.

[stevece80]

Does anyone else find it amazing that the Yankees didn't sign Beltran? It was an absolute no-brainer on their part. I'm absolutely loving the thought of Bernie, already on a sharp decline, playing center full-time. For some reason, I'm thinking Steinbrenner is waiting off a year to sign Juan Pierre, or trade for Darin Erstad, as he has a bizzarre fascination with collecting artifacts from playoff series he's lost. When money isn't too much of an issue, Pierre is an okay consolation prize, but he's not Carlos Friggin' Beltran. With Bernie's long-term deal coming off the books after this season, the salary thing is even less of an issue starting in 2006.

[I LOVE WOMENS VOLLEYBALL]

f*** all of u its called internet language where u abrev. everything so u don't have to type as much

[stevece80]

f*** u its calld spanish they spk it cuz they don spee engliz.

[Noah]

Lets. Go. Mets.

[DOrtiz4prez]

Do you guys think teams should start to be scared of the Mets?

[CrespoBlows]

Does anyone else find it amazing that the Yankees didn't sign Beltran? It was an absolute no-brainer on their part. I'm absolutely loving the thought of Bernie, already on a sharp decline, playing center full-time. For some reason, I'm thinking Steinbrenner is waiting off a year to sign Juan Pierre, or trade for Darin Erstad, as he has a bizzarre fascination with collecting artifacts from playoff series he's lost. When money isn't too much of an issue, Pierre is an okay consolation prize, but he's not Carlos Friggin' Beltran. With Bernie's long-term deal coming off the books after this season, the salary thing is even less of an issue starting in 2006.

 

I think Steinbrenner's had enough spending for a year, I believe Cashman convinced this team came 3 outs away from a sweep w/o the Big Unit, Pavano, or Wright. It also sets the door open for the Yanks to go get Juan Pierre next year, though I hope we get him

[BoSox Rule]

though I hope we get him

I'd much rather re-sign Damon.

[CrespoBlows]

Pierre will come much, much cheaper than Damon

[BoSox Rule]

Juan Pierre is easily going to get $6-7 million, especialy using his win share net value.

 

Damon wouldn't be asking for much more.

[CrespoBlows]

Jesus Christ what is it with you and f***ing made up stat s***. No agent used that, no one would dare use that. Pierre is a leadoff hitter who, if lucky will hit 3 HR. If Pierre gets 6 million Damon would want 10 million, because he hit 20 HR out of the leadoff spot. Leadoff hitters don't make no where near 6 million. Pierre will probably get 3-4 million dollars, Damon probably 8-10.

[BoSox Rule]

Bench players make that much.

 

Exaggeration, but Pierre will probably get a lot more than 3 million. He's going to make $3.4 million this year, and he's still arbitration eligible.

[CrespoBlows]

Bench players don't make 3 million, they make about 300,000 to 1.5 million

 

When are you stat hounds going to learn that Moneyball doesn't work?

[CrespoBlows]

If Juan Pierre gets 6-7 million he just shot up the value of any player who hits about .300, and hits more HR than he does

[BoSox Rule]

When are you stat hounds going to learn that Moneyball doesn't work?

When are you going to learn that you have no idea what you're talking about?

[CrespoBlows]

Actually I do, prove to me a moneyball team that has actually won it all

[BoSox Rule]

2003 Marlins

2002 Angels

 

Of course Moneyball works. The A's prove that year after year after year after year.

[BoSox Rule]

If Juan Pierre gets 6-7 million he just shot up the value of any player who hits about .300, and hits more HR than he does

I think its a little too late for that.

[CrespoBlows]

Billy Beane's famous "moneyball" draft is working really well for them isn't it?

 

Don't give me that ******** about Swisher, because the Mets were going to take him before, had the Brewers taked Kazmir (they ultimately took Fielder) Scouts were actually quite high on Swisher

 

Beane's best postion player is a HS 3B named Eric Chavez

 

The rest of the moneyball draft is fringe prospects status at best (besides Blanton he's okay)

[CrespoBlows]

2003 Marlins

2002 Angels

 

Of course Moneyball works. The A's prove that year after year after year after year.

 

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT

 

The Marlins and Angels are the exact OPPOSITE of the A's. There scrappy players, who play for the sac bunt, sac fly. The Angels lead the league in sac bunts in 2002 when they won.

 

Answer these ?

 

Did the A's make the playoffs last year? Are the Blue Jays powerhouses now? Paul Podesta is a good GM too right?

[BoSox Rule]

Did the A's make the playoffs last year? Are the Blue Jays powerhouses now? Paul Podesta is a good GM too right?

They missed the playoffs by one game.

 

He just got rid of his two best pitchers, and made his team better. I'd say that's fairly decent. The A's are going to win the West for years to come.

[stevece80]

"Moneyball" team to win it? Geez, besides the 2004 Red Sox, I can't think of any.

[BoSox Rule]

The Marlins and Angels are the exact OPPOSITE of the A's. There scrappy players, who play for the sac bunt, sac fly. The Angels lead the league in sac bunts in 2002 when they won.

I was just playing down to the crowd.

[Chitalian Stallion]

I dont think many peeps will be scared at the begining of the season but their pitching staff could be pretty damn good. pedro might repeat last year's performance and zambrano, benson and glavine back him up.

[ahhchon]

how does moneyball not work? billy bean puts out a competitive team every single year. you don't have to make the playoffs ot be competitive. they are a good team that had a few key players choke. zito sucked all year, mulder totally slumped after the ASB.

 

john

[CrespoBlows]

You believe Beane's core of players are better than the Rangers core of players? The Angels? The A's are going to finish dead last this year in the AL West, Haren hasn't pitched a whole lot, Meyer hasn't thrown a single big league pitch. That catching prospect they got was good, but what ever happened to Billy Beane's "steal" Jeremy Brown? They won't win the AL West for the next 3 years, the Angels will definaltly be on top of them.