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STing games start the 17th.
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Owners vote at 6:00 tonight to ratify, and FA can start after that.
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Bunch of Boris guys on the board?
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MLBPA executive board voted 8-0 against, so I guess most of the team’s didn’t take their advice.
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Who you going to trade to get anything good back?
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If opener is Apr 7th will be at the Yankees.
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Tentative agreement done.
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MLBPA executive board voting against latest proposal from MLB, but so far teams are voting for it.
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How about Sunday doubleheaders for the price of one?
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Maybe we should just have the shift, and pitch clock in one league, but not in the other. Stupid yes, but so hasn’t having the DH in only one league all these years.
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856 more hits were taken away from the s*** than beating the shift in 2021 according to Bill James.
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The Owners have subjective hearing.
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You think the owners are doing this all on their own thinking?
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I don’t believe I said MORE people, but I did say lots of people like me. Either way MLB has heard enough feedback from fans to make the change, and if it bothers some so bad you can do what I do now, which is not watch as much baseball, or maybe not at all. On the other hand I’ll watch more baseball.
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Understood.
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I still blame both sides, but I have softened my stance a bit, and put more blame on the owners for going so long without an offer, or even bargaining at all.
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Interesting way to watch a game.
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I don’t watch nowhere near the amount of baseball like I used to, because to me the game is not as good. Games are to long, and slow paced, the over use of the shift, openers for starting pitchers, and starting pitchers that can’t face a batter for a third time through the order liking taking Snell out of the WS a few years ago, because they were afraid of what might happen to me is not good baseball. I’ve said before I liked the way the game was played in the 60’s. DH, or no DH I don’t care, but to only have it in one league all these years to me also is mind boggling. I still watch the Red Sox just don’t watch every game, but keep up with being a box score junkie. Give me an old Sporting News with all the box scores, and I’d read it for hours.I don’t know how much analytics has to do with the change of the game, but it definitely has. If the pitch clock, and banning the shift is put in I will definitely watch more.
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Or on this message board for that matter.
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Moon I’m not trying to change your opinion, and you are not in the minority on here. Yes the shift has always been part of the game, but not to the extent it is now, and that’s the problem, and not the shift itself. When I saw that chart on TV that applying the shift had gone up over 50,000 times a year in a ten year period I had no idea. Why did that happen? Analytics? My opinions have been in the minority more times than probably anybody since I’ve been on here, and I’m totally fine with that, and like I’ve said many times an opinion is just that, and it doesn’t mean anybody is right, and anybody is wrong. I also said before that I know the differences between opinions, and fact, and I’m always up to a debate.
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Why do you think MLB is talking about banning the shift? My view is because of all the bad feedback against it. I applaud your fierce defense of keeping the shift, but it looks like the feedback against the shift will win out.
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Infielders guarding the lines, or cheating up the middle is a defensive strategy yes just like the shift, but to me is not even close as what the shift is. Now if you take the 3B over to guard the 1B line, or the 1B over to guard the 3B line that would be like the shift. The fact that the shift went up over 50,000 times in a 10 year period to me is just an results driven change in the analytics revolution , and went way over the top in doing it. Obviously the powers at MLB have heard feedback from fans like me, and I applaud them for making the change. Being against the change is a lot more on here than all the other venues I visit, and there is nothing wrong with that, but like I said MLB must get enough feedback not liking the shift to make the change.
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I enjoy watching minor league, or college baseball. It’s a lot cheaper too. Yes it’s a different game, but it’s still baseball.
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I keep making the point that there are many different opinions out there in Red Sox Nation, because there are, and no other reason, and no I know the difference between opinions, and facts. I’ve even agreed with some of your opinions. Yes it was a lying clown who makes needless changes that’s beyond stupid like the shift would be. Once again needless to you, but not to others.
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Do you realize there is a whole big world out there that doesn’t agree with your opinion on the shift? Now I don’t think to much of Manfred myself, but I’m not going to call him a stupid clown.