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Nice job on the prospects who may contribute soon. Maybe the best bets will be high velo arms like German and Wallace. Disappointments -- or suspects -- on the mound so far show a lack of wipeout stuff (Wink, Seabold), or at the plate a lack of discipline (like Downs, even at Triple A). This is why I expect Bello to be the real deal; he dominated peers or older guys than him at every level getting to the bigs. Bloom's make or break -- at least with the Nation -- may come at the next trade deadline when his team is either contending or on the fringe of contending. If he can just secure legitimate help in weak areas, then the clubhouse, the press and fandom will get behind him...
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A Realistic View at 2023: Part I
5GoldGlovesOF,75 replied to moonslav59's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
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... unless Bloom is forced to trade Devers because it "makes sense" for the franchise... then he gets at least one more year for the trade return to deliver or at least show promise and progress in the system. And imho, every move Bloom makes and especially doesn't make is partially his fault and Henry's -- because any madness has been by design, the very reason Chaim was hired in the first (and last) place. If the moves mostly backfire or just suck, that's on the entire organization, which has been entrusted with this industry-trending business model.
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Bottom line: every franchise that actually won it all had a significant contribution from a free agent in at least one championship... and arguably would not have a ring without him. (except the Reds, who refused to partake in free agency)
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Nitpicking? On talksox? Noooooooooooooooooooo......... I do think Dye was a prime FA, because in '05 he was 31, which falls under the parameters of a player's prime (generally accepted from ages 28-32). He also proved to be a primetime guy by being voted World Series MVP, and continued to be a prime rib choice cut of beef the following year, leading the Sox in HRs, RBIs, for 5th in AL MVP as an All-Star and Silver Slugger.
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I never said Dye was a big FA signing. But as the WS MVP, he was a prime player in helping his franchise win. And I said "every franchise that won a World Series," not every World Series that every franchise won. From 1980 to 2019, franchises that won at least one ring received ample contributions towards a world championship from a free agent it signed.
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Nobody -- the '76 Reds were literally the last of the reserve clause winners. The Free Agency Era began after the '76 season. In the first rules of free agency, interested teams were required to draft players in a “re-entry draft” for the right to offer bids. Eligible players could be drafted by a maximum of 12 teams. Only one club chose not to draft a single player: the back-to-back world champion Cincinnati Reds. Instead, Cincy was forced to dismantle its club in the next few years, similar to the great Oakland champs.
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For the Philadelphia franchise, the '80 world champs signed Pete Rose, who Mike Schmidt said made the difference in Philly finally winning a ring. Rose hit .326 that postseason. The '05 ChiSox signed Jermaine Dye, who was World Series MVP. For the Kansas City franchise, the '85 world champs signed Dan Quisenberry as an undrafted free agent. They didn't take him from a different team, but any club could have presumably signed Quiz for the right price. Five times in six years he finished in the top five for the Cy Young and received AL MVP votes.
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Not even remotely quoting me accurately. Here is what I actually posted: "every franchise that won a World Series"... Let me know when you're ready for your daily pick-apart-someone-else's-post mood, and I'll send you a list.
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That must be your reality. Mine is that the Yankees never won in the free agent era until they signed three-time world champion free agents Catfish Hunter and Reggie Jackson. Then Steinbrenner kept stock-piling free agent pitchers -- because he could... and because he wanted to.
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I want nothing to do with Judge, but would be shocked if $350M for anyone for any years would "make sense" to Chaim Bloom.
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On the greatest New York team in the history of the Jeter-Mo dynasty: perfect game free agent signees David Wells and David Cone went 6-0 in the 1998 postseason.
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Historically in the free agent era, every franchise that won a World Series signed a prime free agent that helped get them over the top. And that doesn't even include players traded for, who were only dealt because they were about to become free -- like Pedro and Schilling.
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Going back to your earlier comments on the Rangers -- these contract ceilings are not established by so-called big markets or small markets, but really just big or small spenders: owners willing to spend on star players. Sure, someone can probably now post population/attendance stats that show Arlington is right up there with NY, Chicago and LA... but then why doesn't MLB.com lead every day with Rangers stories, and national networks broadcast Texas games in primetime, and assign special Seager close-up cameras that follow all his grins and grimaces.
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Devers isn't Mookie, who turned down $300M in Boston; he's not the best defensive player at his position nor a good baserunner. But Devers, 26, is better than Anthony Rendon, the Angel third baseman who will be paid $38,571,428 for each of the next four years in his age 33-36 seasons. Can anyone fault Devers or his agents for looking at $38M AAV as the top-of-the-industry market value for third basemen? Is it that ludicrous for Devers to expect a minimum of $30M AAV or that someone will offer him that? More telling: if the Boston Red Sox aren't willing to pay market value for another young star player about to enter his prime -- then will they ever again?!?!
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Bloom's one line that makes it obvious that he won't pay Devers the market value he deserves: "It has to make sense for us..." (... which really means that Raffy's current contract demands don't -- but only to Boston... so far) -- Maybe it's time to swing a trade for Sal Perez: catcher, leader, World Champ, home run hitter, $20M AAV, and -37.4 trade value on BTV. The Royals' change in leadership means they're rebuilding again, so anything has to be on the table. Can Bloom package prospects for Sal and closer Scott Barlow (18.9 value), whose ERA and WHIP have improved the past four years in a row? At least if he's taking Perez off KC's payroll, Bloom should press for top '21 draft pick Frank Mozzicato, the southpaw from Connecticut (with only a 4.1 value)...
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Chris, this graph shows if you use your pitching hand to pull down that big screen TV, there will be a .05% fraying of your rotator cuff... and if the bolt holding the right side of the mount is screwed into a stud, there can be up to 17% additional tension on your ulna collateral ligament. But don't worry, if you get hurt, we'll tell the press you fell off your bike.
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If every registered member of the forum donated one dollar each to the Keep-Raffy Campaign, the gap would only be $99,993,474.
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Very thorough, Moon. The colors I'd change are the Beni trade to blue; Cordero sucks as a big leaguer and Winck's ceiling is mediocrity. But I'd change the Renfroe trade to black, since Hamilton and/or Binelas have progressed to Double A and may someday contribute speed and power in the majors. Pham and Kelly were ok, but didn't really lend anything good to the trudge towards last place. Maybe they're pink... As for Robles, I get there was good and bad, but more of the latter; maybe blend the blue and red to make purple, as in purple hearts for all the fans whose eyes were wounded watching way too much of him.
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A Realistic View at 2023: Part I
5GoldGlovesOF,75 replied to moonslav59's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Paxton has never played a game for the Red Sox. He shouldn't have any value, positive or negative. He is not an integer nor a fraction. The poster with the blue font who bragged about the Yankees in the final four months of the season when they lost more than they won has more value. -
Your second line summarizes the main reasons for the Wil E Coyote dive and the Acme anvil that followed. It's up to the organization to plan for the inevitable and stockpile legitimate depth -- or promote/deal for suitable replacements. Injuries happen to every team and are no excuse. It's not like '22 was one of those rare years where injuries to key stars were disasters that spelled instant doom... ... like 20 years ago, when Nomar missed just about the whole season, after winning back-to-back batting crowns and hitting .3freaking72. Then about a third of the way in, Varitek broke his elbow diving for a pop-up, and everyone knew it was over before it was over.
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Well, we're still the defending last place AL East team until someone else finishes lower.
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A Realistic View at 2023: Part I
5GoldGlovesOF,75 replied to moonslav59's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Good points, but also why I can't see investing in a guy like Bassitt, who is older than Eovaldi. John Henry took his business model from the old hippie button: Don't Trust Anyone Over 30. -
A Realistic View at 2023: Part I
5GoldGlovesOF,75 replied to moonslav59's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
It's all about the pitching. It's the real reason why Houston is good every year, and now Atlanta. It's why the New York teams improved. It's why small markets in Cleveland and Milwaukee still contend. It's why LA with its open wallets can overcome injuries, trades and scandals. And it's why Seattle spent a ton of money and prospect capital the past year. Pitching is why Boston stunk in '20 and '22, and was mediocre in '19 -- when Dombrowski sought to overcome injuries to the rotation by landing the best starter available weeks before the trade deadline... who turned back into Andrew Cashner. And pitching was why the Red Sox overachieved in 2021, when Eovaldi was great, Pivetta was clutch, and Whitlock was a total surprise. -
There are still some old Yankee fans who still cling to "27 Rings!" But with each subsequent and disappointing postseason, the sound of those rings gets further in the distance. My son's in middle school, and his Yankee fan classmates have never experienced a championship in their entire lives. When their older relatives speak of rings, it's like the rings of rotary phones -- ancient artifacts only seen and heard on black-and-white retro TV shows.
