I think BTV losses a lot of value around the trade deadline. Someone like Chapman has very little trade value a surplus value of 3.5 But we know that someone like him is going to go for way over his "book value" for lack of a better term at the dealine.
Whatever Chapman brings back, I suspect BTV could reject that trade at the moment.
It's June 18th, there's still a lot of "are we buyers or are we sellers" out there and I'm not just talking about Boston.
But if a month from now things look as grim as they do now, it's sell time.
Reportedly Sandovals stuff hasn't looked half bad in his rehab, if he gets some innings up.....I actually think he might surpise people and he has value.
https://blogs.fangraphs.com/aroldis-chapman-re-ups-with-the-red-sox/
According to fangraphs, you appear to be correct.
My bad everyone.
Still, I think you're right that a deal is worth exploring. 2027 may be a short year, and Chapman will be a 39 year old. If team wants to give us an arm and a leg for him now it should still be explored.
Isn't that how options typically work? you have the "OPTION" but not the "OBLIGATION" to take a certain course of action.
Unless someone can correct me and show me where I'm wrong and this mutual option that becomes a teams option if he pitches over 40? That doesn't make sense but for good measure I've been looking into this and that does not seem to be the case.
The odds are very strong that Chapman walks out that door at seasons end and is not coming back.
A closer pitching at an elite level is one of the most highly coveted things at the trade deadline, and if this team is out of it, it would be roster malpractice to not trade him.
Guaranteed to whom?
Doesn't Chapman have the option to decline the option and go to free agency and get more money?
What are the odds he picks it up?
If there's more money for him on the open market is going to stay here because this team is such a winner?
Who is worrying? I'm not worrying. I think the liklihood that Chapman opts into a contract are extremly small and he should be considered a guy not part of this core post 2026 and should be traded......if we are sellers.
Correction: it's a mutual option IF it does not vest, which is almost certainly the case if it does not. If Chapman doesn't hit 40 IP something seriously went wrong.
If the option vests, certainly Chapman is going to earn himself much more than 12.7 per year given the year he's having this year. Even at his age, if he performs at this level all year someone is giving him 20 million for a year.
No, it's a vesting mutual option. If it doesn't vest theres no option. It's either a mutual option or no option at all and mutual options are almost never exercised by both parties.
Oh, absolutely 100%
We could be living in a completely different world in 5-6 weeks from now.
But if we are sitting here at the end of July and the Sox are sub .500 and not competing for a wild card they need to sell. No more of this hugging the line crap.
Yes, FREE AGENT is not the same thing as having a mutual option. The whole point of this exercise in determining who to sell is to list the expiring contracts.
ADD: I've also edited my comment to state the mutual option is for next year 2027, not 2028. I wasn't quick enough for you.
It's not a slam dunk that Chapman and the Sox wouldn't both exercise the option for 2027 but it's pretty close to it. He will be 39 in 2027. If he's still good, and the Sox would want to exercise the option some team out there would pay more than 12.7 million for one year.
Why would we assume he would be here for 2027?
Because after this season he's a free agent.
He has a mutual option for 27, which means BOTH him and the team have to exercise it......which hardly ever happens in such scenarios.
I was wrong on Contreras, but Chapman is much more certain to be gone after this season.
Without much playoff hope in 2026.....what should we keep Chapman and lose him for nothing?
I made an error, I thought it was a mutual option, it's a team option. Yes, I'd say it's much higher.
Well, this takes Contreras off the "must trade list" for certain but I would certainly still entertain offers.