Hugh2
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Agreed, I imagine them being flexible with the staff in this scenario.
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Kluber would have been fine as a #3 #4 starter if he could have given us what he did last year. Hey, some guys just fall off a cliff, and that's what it looks like with Kluber......I don't think the Sox can wait on him much longer.
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Actually, Sale just might end up pitching his way into a QO as well. One good season is one thing, but how much better off will he be (and the Sox) if he comes back strong for two seasons? The way the pitching market is now a days someone will give him a high AAV for 3 years even at 36. I don't expect it to be Boston but I'll take that draft pick.
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It would be pretty cool if Paxton pitches his way into being offered a QO.
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Your personal feelings toward a player have no merit here. His record stands for itself. Now it could very well end up that he's done and quickly deteriorates here, he should lose his job VERY quickly if that were to happen. But throwing your closer back out there after one bad performance (in which he was dominant before hand) is not only not unprecedented, but rather normal.
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I also wouldn't mind the Sox getting creative and using more guys as a piggyback. Like, give Houck the ball for 4 then Crawford/Wink for 3. Let Pivetta/Whitlock go for 7-8 combined. Might have some Merit if both Pivetta and Kluber could be effective in shorters stints out of the bullpen (2-3 innings at a time). The good news is you'd retain all your starting pitching depth, but you'd probably end up having to DFA one guy at some point. Bleier might be on the chopping block next, would be nice if we could even get something for him (don't need salary relief).
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I'm not sure how much longer they can live with Kluber starts, it feels like he should be the odd man out next time they need a spot. What concerns me is the fact that they invested in him as a starter so they hold off a bit longer. I also don't think Kluber would pitch as well out of the pen as Houck/Whitlock/Crawford either but I might want any one of those guys in the rotation OVER Kluber at this point. At least he didn't hurt the team last night. Even if he pitched well we would not have won with the performance the offense put up last night.
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It's not like he just started throwing on 4/9. He had bullpen sessions and has been training and conditioning for a while now during his rehab. Physically, he should be able to throw 100 pitches and not blow out his elbow. I think the bigger concern should be his total innings pitched this year. If he is throwing 100 pitches + every time out that could build up by the end of the year. But who knows, hopefully the rest of the rotation and bullpen settles so you are more comfortable taking him out after 5 or 6.
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This is 100% accurate. Although to be fair, we probably misuse the word "instincts" a lot when referring to a player's abilities.
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There's a lot of things that make Bloom look foolish. Not trading Ceddanne in the 2022/23 offseason is not one of them.
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While a lot of speed can't be "learned" you can definitely "teach" someone to become faster. Anyone can become faster. Some of us have the genetic capacity to be better runners than others, so some guys will just never be that fast. That doesn't mean they can't be faster. If you focus on explosive strength and have an exercise routine geared towards engaging fast twitch muscle fibers you can add speed/jump etc to your game. Anyone can, some people just have more fast twitch muscle than others who may have more slow twitch.
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I think it may be more appropriate to pin Duvall/Duran vs. Renfroe and not JBJ, but yeah the way Duvall looked and Duran is playing that's an obvious answer.
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I kind of love what they did with Whitlock and Crawford last night. I wouldn't mind seeing them do that with Whitlock/Houk or Houk/Crawford at the MLB level and give them some innings out of the bullpen vs. bullpen sessions in between short starts. With starting pitchers going less and less seemingly every year the lines between starter/reliever aren't what they used to be. It's not the craziest of ideals.
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Another narrative that played out in this thread was Bloom was bad for signing Yoshida to the money he could have had Schwarber for. Right now I'm not sure anyone would take Kyle over Yoshida out there.
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Maybe, but someone could have said Yoshida was signed just because they missed out on Suzuki. It's not like Rusney wasn't highly regarded. Baseball America had him ranked #21 at some point.
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Absolutely they're very different. My point was that there were some who didn't see it any differently, and because one international free agent failed Yoshida was doomed to fail. Which is just a bad philosophy to have. Free agents are like at bats, just because you swung and missed doesn't mean you are not going to hit the next one out of the park.
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It also goes to show you that you can't let the past haunt your future. So much of the narrative was "well what about Rusney, or Dice-K, or all these other guys" Well it's a two way street. So far Yoshida is looking like the next Ichiro, but with a little bit more pop. And, he's a super likeable guy too, if he performs for the long haul he's really going to leave a mark here. It's still early but it looks like the Sox knocked this one out of the park.
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That's fair. It's nice to have you aboard the GOshida train.
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I remember suggestion giving a QO to both Nate and Wacha because of how thing our rotation was or at least pick one of the two who they were more comfortable with. I did not feel that anyone else agreed with me, at least in the QO department, which for the record I was right on Nate and it net us a pick but the point is NOBODY wanted these guys 6 months ago, and the season is still young. There can be a huge regression to the mean with them. Both carry risk given their ages and injury history.
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Still think it was a bad gamble?
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Yeah, that's one thing that always bugged me about some people who are very anti-analytics. Not all of them and all the time but you often get the "I don't care what whacky stat you have he doesn't pass the eye test" like.....traditional scouting and stats aren't a zero-sum game, and if anything the best pro scouts are huge proponents of both.
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Yes he had a nice average, but you could see it at the plate. He wasn't getting good hits, he hit for ZERO power during that time frame too. I'm not too worried though, but he's in a little funk.
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Nick Yorke is not having a great May, hope it's a small sample size and he continues to come roaring back this year. .584 OPS this month.
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This is a good point. It would be a different situation if Jansen was having a bad stretch; weeks of bad play looking totally lost night after night then things would be different. No reasonable manager pulls their closer after one game. none.
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Fact KJ is a future hall of fame closer Fact KJ was having an elite year before this series Fact the best pitchers to ever play the game have blown leads/saves Baseball is a mental game, sometimes the best thing you can do is get back out there and get back on your horse. What Cora did, was the same exact move ANY other good manager would have made. There's a difference between rolling a guy out there who is failing day in and day out for a long period of time and then throwing your closer out there after ONE bad game. Should we bench Raffy if he goes 0-4 one game?