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It's not like some secret mystery, it's pretty well known that that was his mandate when he came in here. To slash the budget, build the farm, try to compete while building a franchise for sustainable success. Fail he may, but it's pretty well known that was the plan when they brought Bloom in.
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The game has also changed. When Henry won those championships he was a big spender. Didn't have to be the biggest but top three for sure. Now, he's not alone at the top with NYY and LAD anymore. There's several other franchises out there spending, everyones spending is up. There's more money in the game. I would have believed he wanted to build the farm and clear out payroll before starting a higher level of spending, in the aim of "sustainable success". It makes sense to switch gears a little bit at the moment, but the only head-scratcher is the contracts given out to guys like Yoshida/Story in that light. Even Devers, The Devers deal feels more and more like a freak-out attempt to appease the Boston fan base after losing out on both Betts and Bogaerts.
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Agreed, I think most fans see things this way. In the past I've always thought Henry's ability to seemingly change his mind was an asset, the narrative being put out there now can make one skeptical of that point. I'm still cautiously optimistic about his desire to build a sustainable winning franchise here. But he's on the clock for certain, and unfortunately, he can't fire himself.
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The stories pass the smell test, that doesn't mean that they don't stink either. Stories can often lack information. How many of his moves that are being criticized now had either the full backing of the front office or even it's complete approval and probable directive (Betts)? It can be both true that Bloom has made decisions that ultimately led to his downturn and at the time had the backing of Henry and maybe even his guidance. But so what, we know this FO will throw people under the bus in a heart beat. It kind of reminds me of when I was a child at 20 years old (yes 20 is still a child) and I was angry at my parents for not pushing me to go to college more. Bloom is gone, at some point Henry is going to have to start looking at himself in the mirror. Or not.
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Did you forget about Perales? he has better stuff than both those guys and is the top ranked pitcher in the system.
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I'd give him a B- at best, maybe even a C. May sound greedy, but I expect nothing less than an A in Boston.
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Back in 2014 after Betts graduated shortly after Bogaerts the top for were. 1. Blake Swihart 2. Henry Owens 3. Manuel Margot 4. Rafael Devers Eduardo Rodriguez honorable mention at 5, and that offseason they added Moncada to the system as well. The System was STACKED back then. Shortly after many of those prospects help build a core that won a lot from 2016-2019
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Mayer will probably slip in the rankings a little bit, but he didn't get on the field a lot during the second half of the season. I don't think it's a drop in talent, definitely still top 10 worthy. Looks like the Sox have 2 of those guys. That's really freaking exciting.
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Because he was hurt, I didn't name him I put him in a bag of balls. If you want to talk about Joely in a vacuum I don't think he's on the roster next year. I just don't think they're going to go out and buy two LHP relievers. Also, we are talking about a reliever, these guys are so up and down year to year. If Murphy and Bernardino look like crap in camp and Joely is pitching decently he probably makes the 26-man. If he even comes to camp that is.
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This is what I was saying the other day. Bloom didn't have an above-average number of bad moves, he actually had quite a lot of good moves, just never good big moves. If Bloom was a ballplayer he'd be the all singles guy. The average would look ok but then you'd see that sub .700 ops.
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agree. I think you figure one of Murphy, Joely, Bernardino can do the trick and then you pick someone up on the free agent market. Left Handed relievers who I really like. Matt Moore, Wandy Peralta Brent Sutter give me Sutter, Yamamoto, Duval, + another mid-rotation starter. With a little bounce back, sophomore progression, and luck that team should be a f***ton better.
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I fixed it for you.
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I'd rather have them sign two and trade for a big RH bat. An under-the-radar signing for someone to replace Turner if he walks could be Rhys Hoskins. The downside there is you won't have Yoshida moving to DH and you keep him in the field, which might be fine if Verdugo/Rafaela solidifies it out there. Have you guys looked at the position side of free agency? it's about as ugly as I've ever seen it.
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I'd put him in that second tier, but at the top of it.
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I never said it was very realistic, it's just exactly what this team needs. More realistic is expecting one of the top tier guys, and then a guy in that second tier.
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I would not hate Nola/Yama either, actually, i would pretty much f***ing love that too. I still like Snell too though. Don't think it will happen. But I think expecting one top-tier guy is reasonable.
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Yes, I'd still take him. I'd bet he will pitch better the next 5 years than Nola.
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Snell has the stats that pitchers age well in, when they at least. He's got a big strong durable body. I'd take him over Nola.
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Isn't that everything in baseball? Any guy you sign can fall off a cliff, any guy you trade for can fall off a cliff or get injured, any guy you draft can bust. This is why you need a robust scouting department, a strong apparatus that you can trust, so you have more Eovaldis' and less Klubers.
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Milwaukee has the 20th ranked farm system to some in baseball and the Sox a top 5. They may just be very happy to get some prospects from a loaded Boston system to replenish their system.
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Because teams never go out and win world series when paying top notch starting pitchers into their 30's? I think we have more of a chance of being Houston than we do Atlanta, maybe even LA for that matter.
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To some extent, the pitching has to get better with better defense. Suppose there's more room for growth than most when you have the worst defense.
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Devers signs 11 year $331 million extension
Hugh2 replied to Jasonbay44's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
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I remember justifying the trade at the time. It was my believe they wanted JBJ as a 4th outfielder to improve the defense and they would go out and get a starting right fielder. Bloom did not, the team suffered for it.
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Ok, but they sold their starting catcher and didn’t add pitching, which they needed. They “hugged the line” If they weren’t going to get under why not buy? They could have picked up a rental without mortgaging the farm. I ultimately think his small deadline balls is what did him in. This years deadline was the nail. If I could be a fly on the wall I’m Henry’s life I’d be willing to bet this August 1st was when the wheels really started spinning in his head about letting Bloom go sooner than later. Probably took them a month to prep the spin machine