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  1. I really like him too, the scouting says he has platoon concerns, but I'm not too worried as he's a 20 year old in high A. Even if those problems are never remedied I still think he could easily be a platoon or 4th outfield type. It seems all his tools are average to better, none of them screaming but not none of them really lacking either. Now they say that swing isn't as nice from the left side, but his OPS vs. RHP this year is .813/.832. If that represents a real change he could potentially be a starting corner outfielder one day.
  2. It's a very small sample size, but it's one that is congruent with the scouting on him. Leading one to believe that the scouting and more advanced pitching at a higher level may be starting to adjust. The past week he's batting .208 with 6 K's and 1 BB in 24 at bats. No extra base hits. Again, still a very small sample size, but regardless he's struggling to improve his plate approach in such a way that would make MLB success much more likely.
  3. I'm sticking with the SAME number I did on page 1 of this thread. 87 wins.
  4. I do like the ideal of moving Verdugo for some pitching and then moving Yoshida to DH. You can improve your defense and pitching right there.
  5. I would be comfortable figuring two starters in the outfield between Yoshida/Duran/Rafaela/Abrea, with the other two being a DH/4th OFer type, Verdugo is your 3rd RFer, but if he can not be extended do we trade or sign an OFer and flip him for pitching? Otherwise I'm ok with Yoshida/Duran/Verdugo to start the season. Rafaela is going to fit into the roster at some point, looks like he's finally starting to struggle at the MLB level with weak contact so perhaps he's not as close as he seemed, but I would still figure him to be in Boston middle of next year.
  6. I think most of us have figured Sox fans have an affinity towards pessimism. Or....at least 1/3 of us have figured that out.
  7. Not so sure I want to hand a starters position over to Abreu just yet. his .788 OPS vs. LHP is very encouraging but at the AAA level without much more of a track record. I like him, and am more convinced now than ever that he may be a MLB player but i'm not sure I'm ready to make him a starter over a guy like Duran just yet.
  8. I really don’t think $7 million dollars extra was stopping them from getting better pitching if they wanted. They could have done much better than Kluber for about what Kluber got. They just made a s*** decision on who to add to the rotation this last offseason.
  9. Oh wait damnit, I don’t have one on this account grrrrr. I don’t know any of my passwords, everything is just automatic so I’m either on my phone or at work. I’ll be on my phone for a few days… I’m on vacation. But, I predict the Sox surprise everyone with some big starting pitching upgrades this offseason
  10. Hey check out the tag line, I ain’t changing it. And my tag lines haven’t been wrong yet
  11. But what’s the point in trading Sale? You’d have to give up a prospect to get rid of the salary. Or eat all the money to get something in return. Or something inbetween that who knows. But here’s why you don’t trade him. He’s a sunk cost, and after this season his salary should have less bearing on team building decisions. Because, the Sox set this year. And by the time they want to reset again Sale will be off the books. Sale is here to stay.
  12. The Angels drafted 20 pitchers in 20 rounds of drafting in 2021. Not one of those guys is in their top ten. I suspect if the Sox did the same, they might have a barren farm system. More pitching is obviously a deficiency and a problem that should be addressed. But thinking the answer is as simple as "well just draft more pitchers" is well....simple. too simple. They also have only 1 top 100 prospect, and he's not a pitcher. At least the Sox have the patience to stick to what they're good at, they've had success going IFA pitching lately so they should do more of that. Oh wait, they are.
  13. Most don't, pitchers are more risky than hitters in the draft, much more. If you go back and look at draft data from the last 20 years you will see a LOT more highschool pitchers who never made the majors than hitters. Not, that the Red Sox shouldn't draft more pitchers, perhaps they should, but they've clearly shown they're among the best in all of baseball at drafting and developing hitting prospects. You can always fill in the gaps in FA, which is costly, but if you're saving money on the position side because you can draft and develop those guys then great. Also, you can always trade from a position of strength for what you need. If you're better at hitting on short stops, then draft a short stop and trade him for some pitching when you have too many.
  14. That's fair, and by recent trends I don't blame people. I like to look at the long term horizon and what's happening isn't rare or even unprecedented. I'll fully toot my horn and Sox nation will rejoice when the Sox open up the purse for a TOTRS this offseason. And keep Casas, Bello, Mayer too.
  15. John Henry went through pennie-pinching years back then too in between his gluttony, why do people have any reason to believe differently his time around? What is different? Sox are going to spend big this offseason, and I'd be willing to bet heavily on that.
  16. What about IFA? Sox take more pitchers than position players there. That's where they got guys like Devers and Bello, are people just going to ignore the fact they've been taking more pitchers there in recent years?
  17. In your opinion? So you're well versed on the farm system of all 30 teams and travel the country watching MILB games every single day? The Sox system is obviously on the up and up, and according to most publications has 4 top 100 prospects in all of baseball. Heck some have 4 in the top 50!!!!
  18. Agreed. Hopefully John Henry learned his lesson, you have to either extend these guys when they're younger and you can get them for cheaper, or be willing to set the market with them.
  19. If we judge a trade by a players stats AFTER he signs an extension past his control years then the following would be true. The cost trade for 1 year of an ACE would be roughly the same as 3 years. This is not the case. WIth every single pro scouting department in ALL OF BASEBALL. Adjust your opinions accordingly.
  20. Saying you don't want a guy traded doesn't have to be mutually exclusive from properly evaluating the trade. It can still suck that he was traded either way.
  21. Exactly. That's my point. Complaining about drafting too many shorts stops is inehrently the wrong argument, when one should say "they draft too many position players" But f*** it, stick to what you're good at. If the Sox drafted more pitchers the last 5 years they likely would have the same exact record right now and the farm system could be 1/2 as good as it is now. Then Moon would have no prospects left to trade for a pitcher anyways. Also, the Sox go very pitcher heavy in the IFA market and its' starting to show with Bello and many of their top pitching prospects being IFA guys. I'd like to see more of that.
  22. So, the only way a team can get there is by trading 3 of their best assets for an ACE? No other team in the history of baseball has ever built a team that can, they have always traded for aces because no aces exist until you ever trade for the ACE? Thought experiment, has there ever been a fringe .500 team, that traded away their farm for an ACE and won the world series the next year? follow up question to that, how did that franchise fare in the years to come? did they falter or have sustained success? I'll repeat what I said to Moon. It's a sound strategy, but the timing is wrong. And as is with life......timing is everything.
  23. That's also three years worth of picks, many of those guys either already have moved off position or will. It's been said many times, and it's a point that eludes many around here and I know you're NOT one of them but most highschool position players drafted are going to be short stops.
  24. We are a mediocre team, and you want to add an ACE by taking away a future and current slugger? so at best we become marginally better with less future assets. It's like pulling the chicken out of the oven when it's still pink in the inside. It's NOT the time to sell your assets for pitching. You don't have enough assets to be a championship-caliber team, you trade from surpluss. The Sox had a top farm and a first-place team I'd agree......that was the EXACT position they were in when they traded for Sale and it got them a world series. If you add a healthy Sale onto this team......it doesn't get a you a world series, and even worse under your scenario you're subtracting Casas and Mayer. Your suggestion is valid, I'm arguing that your timing is off.
  25. Man, you guys have zero imagination.
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