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Yama just threw his 2nd career no hitter the other night. Dear god please have the Sox sign this guy

I would like to formally submit my application to replace Bloom

Scherzer was my binky, I remember back in the day leading the charge advocating his signing. I also predicted a big free agent pitching signing that year. I thought they’d let Lester walk to sign him, I didn’t buy the bull they’d never sign a big name pitcher again. I was right, just off by one year. The next year they signed Price.

The sheer longevity of the Sox pitching drought has made it abundantly clear the problem runs deeper than just bad luck, but to some extent, they’ve had bad luck with guys developing too. It’s not guys like Anthony Ranaudo, Allen Webster, Casey Kelly, Ruby La Rosa, Trey Ball, Jay Groome, Henry Owens, and others weren’t highly regarded outside of Boston and still fizzled. Perhaps this is also why when we do get a pitching prospect high up in our system we don’t believe it until we see it. Which isn’t a horrible position to have regardless. While I consider myself an optimist on the prospect homer front I think this dose of skepticism is healthy. Hopefully Bello is a sign of things to come. I have high hopes for Perales, and Wilkeman, in that order. If just one of those guys can turn into a legit #3 option a few years after Bello that would make the recent success of the systems pitching so much better. So good, that adding two strong starters this offseason could make their pitching a force to be reckoned with.

I think you keep one in the rotation. The one who you think has the best outlook, in terms of durability and ability to cultivate another pitch. 4 of those guys in the pen is still a very very good pen. Sox still need two starters this offseason. Starters better than Kluber

And yet I dispute. Things that you predict that happen in the future and have not happened yet are not facts. That….is a fact.

I think this is it. Getting injured can happen to anyone, but getting injured more than once can start to raise the red flags

I’m not against trading prospects at all, I’m just merely stating my love for Casas. He’s becoming my new MLB binky. I just don’t want to see him traded, ever. Things can change.

Good, this team isn’t ready to strike for a pitcher. They’re a mediocre team, I think you need to build yourself into a contender with a strong farm and then you make such deals. Trading young controllable guys away now would be blowing the load too soon. It’s a slap in the face to endearing such suck for the past 4 years all in the name of rebuilding from the ground up, only to tear it all down and trade away a bunch of assets when we are almost but not there yet

Obvi I’m just saying I’m not touching Casas. He’s my untouchable. Don’t touch him. Stop! Back away from the young first baseman, let him play and develop here

Also we traded for Sale without giving up MLB talent. Of course, you’re probably giving a team two of (Mayer/Teel/Bleis/Anthony) plus other prospects for that, but there’s more than one way to skin a cat. To me, Casas is untouchable. You plugged a hole, you found a true, young, constant controlled hitter who may be a future leader. Casas is the type of guy who is going to rub off on people just like Schwarber did when he was here. He’s a true student of the game and a professional hitter. That has real value in a clubhouse, and will be even more so in a few years when he’s not a rookie. He will make the people around him better. He’s untouchable to me

If Casas is the only value you have to bring f back an ACE you don’t have the roster test that justifies trading for an Ace

Now that I do think about it Romeros fall does seem a bit troublesome. Thank god for Roman Anthony or that draft would be starting to not look so good. I wonder is going on with the kid, it seems like it's been injury holding him back but Bleis has been out most of the year and he's holding firm towards the top of the rankings.

On the other hand, if he was in the 25-31 range I wouldn't think that seems weird either. There's so much fluidity between rankings at that level, outside the top 10 and top 20. I thought one time I heard the Sox prospects answer a question while talking about being asked why player A is ranked ahead of player B etc etc and they answered it like this. "yeah, you're probably right". If someone think #32 and #45 should switch positions they're probably right. I think the further down a prospect list you get the more it's like throwing darts on a board. You could have a former top ten prospect ranked right next to an unkown DSL guy who is a future top 100 prospect in all of baseball ranked right next to each other.

Why? he rose there from being unranked. He's old, and yes he can't help that but it is what it is. He has 10 IP at AAA, and 70 at AA as a 25-year-old, which he could be really good, he also should be really good and mowing those hitters down. 38 also gives him the capacity to keep rising, and if he keeps this up into next he will likely continue to jump and probably find his way onto the MLB roster at some point too.

Fair enough, but I still ask the question why? it's like robbing Peter to pay Paul. That is real value you are sucking out of the offense, which has had it's fair share of issues this year as well and now you have to go out and replace that. I'd like to trade from depth when my cup is full, if the fullness of your cup is defined by how good your MLB team is then are these Sox ready for that? no. If we had 3-4 Casas on our team I'd have a different outlook, but how many guys do we have long-term on this team with that type of potential? Devers? that's it and I think Casas has a higher ceiling than him. I get the philosophy that no one is untradable for the right place, but to me, Casas is effectively untradeable because of how much I think he could mean to this organization going forward. We should be looking to add pitching to a line up with him in it. Not rob Peter to pay Paul.

I would like to prevent further evidence that Tristan Casas should never be traded. We all remember how tremendously he struggled at the beginning of the year. At the beginning of the day on June 1st he was hitting .196, with a .310 OBP and a .673 OPS. Since then he's hit .310/.405/.578. If this is more of a reflection of his skill set then over the course of a full season he would 38 HR's and drive in 98 RBIS. I'd expect those runs batted in to increase as he moves up in the lineup, as he should. Casas is still young, he's a rookie, he is still likely getting better, learning the league, and learning how to be a better hitter. The kid is a true student of the game, and of hitting, so I don't even think he's at his ceiling yet. He's going to be a true middle-of-the-order bat. A guy who hits for average, power, and takes walks. That's rare. Casas is the type of player that a team like Atlanta locks up to long-term deals early in their careers. I hope the Sox start doing more of the same.

Still talking about Bobby. Who also can’t be traded right now.

He doesn’t have to be Eovaldi, the point is what your feelings are on his medicals. If you think a healthy Paxton can replicate this year and do so with a little more stamina? If you believe this, you believe he’s worth a QO

Didn’t Eovaldi look bad down the stretch too? I could be wrong. I do not disagree one bit, but allow me to play devils advocate. Paxton has been very good much of the year but has not looked so hot recently. If you believe that with a full season back, and a healthy offseason that he can go further into the year next year you do it. Or at least that’s how you make sense of it. But you only do it if you do believe in that, because there’s a very very very good chance he’s accepting that offerZ

Even better, they should have done it months ago

If Dalbec had any significant trade value he would have been gone at this years deadline. I think it’s telling he’s still here. If Turner is gone he makes sense as depth, but he may still be better served as trade bait. I think you can get a DSL flyer on a guy for him, maybe a PTBNL.

At this point, those two have virutally none to little trade value, especially Dablec. I wouldn't mind seeing them throw Mata in the pen and let it fly. They should be doing that RIGHT NOW.

The fact that Chris Murphy is never going back to the rotation and him going back into the rotation two years from now only makes my point. The Sox have to look outside the organization to add to the rotation. Otherwise Chris Muprhy is going back to the rotation. And I don't think he ever goes back to the rotation. Also, it doesn't matter what they need this year. The year is over, and they can't trade for anything. It would take a miracle run. But, I have my eyes on the rotation of tomorrow.....or at least 2024.

I remember the argument between Lawlar and Mayer. There were many who thought Lawlar was as good as Mayer. Marcelo might be right there with him or close to it if it wasn't for his injuries. I think it may be more realistic to expect him in early 2025 now.