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Exactly, this is why I think this year is going to be different. Erod got 80/4, how much better is Montgomery really than EROD? He's worth more than that but not much more, maybe a hair more AAV and another year. Snell is harder to predict, because he could be the best pitcher in the game, or not there but he's still probably going to get around $150. I think if another team throws out the contract he rejected from the Yankees he might bite, unless there really is some mystery bidding going on behind the scenese. I don't think that's happening this year. For all the talk of Boras knowing what he's doing, people also forget about the years he misreads the market for his clients and they have to go play overseas for a year. I'm sure if Michael Conforto could turn back the hands of time he'd have accepted the METS QO in 2021. He would have gone into free agency the same exact year and be $19 million richer.

That's just the thing I'm wonder, yes everyone needs pitching, but I'm not really sure who out there is going to go desperate for Snell or Montgomery. They both projected to receive 200/150 respectively. I think they end up seeing about 75% of that. Bold prediction here that Boras hold outs will end up with a rare depreciation in value by holding out.

Next years pitching class has some interesting names in it as well. Brandon Woodruff Max Scherzer Justin Verlander Shane Bieber Zack Wheeler Max Fried Walker Buehler

I don't think Montgomery is going to get the $150 million MLBTRADERUMORS, and certainly not the $172 million he is looking for in free agency. If he can be had in the $90-$130 range (depending on years) Sox should bite

If the kids play like Casas did we would be in the playoff picture. I don’t think we will be sellers.

Nate was pretty good in 21 as well, he had that one bad apparence out of the pen in game 4 of the ALCS, but besides that he was good.

I think this is actually a much under appreciated way to get wins during the regular season, with the right guys as you say. I wouldn't hate it.....but I still think you need a top of the rotation starter to go deep in October.

Breslow is going to look like a genius when he waits out the market and signs Jordan for $125

Some might say we need to move money to be able to sign a pitcher. I'm not sure who you would need to make room for other than Snell/Montgomery, and I don't think anyones one year contract is preventing that. Ownership is just disinterested in moving in signing big money contract to pitchers. I'd trade Jansen in the right deal, heck I'd throw in money if we got back legit prospects. But I do that if we were signing a Montgomery type and pushing someone like Houck to the pen. I have no problem waiting until the deadline. Good bullpen help never hurts a team and certainly commands a fair payout at the deadline.

I'm actually rather optimistic on the defense improving in 2024, I just won't be completely surprised if it's over subpar again. They should certainly have more depth options with guys like Rafaela being more ready and able to fill in at CF/SS

I've put my personal opinions aside on the issue and don't want Bauer here. Right or wrong, it doesn't matter, the reality is he's a PR nightmare.

Now, unfortunately these types of cases are very much so he said/she said and there's just never enough proof to convict someone. Another reason for that is because victims of sexual assault both woman and men often wait years and years to come forward because they live many years in shame, or fear, or even confusion, which is unfortunate because the number one reason why men disbelief woman is because they often wait years to come out. I really don’t want to dive into my personal experiences again, because I harbor guilt, it almost makes me feel like a phony using it as some kind of bullet point but I know for a fact when victims see these types of stories it can cause them to relive some of that trauma. I was 100% percent against Trevor Bauer when the original story came out, it made me relive many of my own past traumas, but new evidence came out that makes it look painstakingly obvious Hill was trying to extort money out of Bauer. The proof is literally in her text messages. But this is the tragedy of the world we live in today. Once the stone is cast, the ink is dried and the opinions are set in stone and men can’t even debate a real topic, with real conflicting reports, with real new evidence without being called some kind of sexists. Facts aren’t sexist, they're not femine, they're not masculine, they’re not good, they’re not bad, they are what they are. Those 10% of men deserve justice, just as much as the 90% of men and woman do who are victims of sexual assault.

I'm educated on this way more than you can ever imagine. Believe me.

Right, because there are only woman victims.

SMH. Men can't even have a conversation about facts without being insulted. Men have literally turned into giant vaginas.

WHat makes you say I'm a low life? I was the biggest hater of Bauer when it looked like he was a scum bag. Then new information came out and I changed my mind. I suppose that is beneath people like you. Not once in your post did you dispute the facts. Did you even look them up? or are you still living in the world of 5 years ago.

What is highly frustrating is seeing how much poor defense hurt last years team and improving the defense this year will largely revolve around relatively unproven talent, bounce back seasons, and better health.

God, I remember really really really wanting Beltre to sign an extension, but peopel were skeptical that he was only having a good contract year.

I find it interesting that him and his lawyer have text messages of those woman talking with each other and collaborating their storys. That's normal...ain't it Norman??? Also, when Bauer texted her saying that he had stopped and asked her if she was ok and she did not tell him to stop she responded"yeah I know" Also plenty of texts of HER soliciting him into having sex and chocking her out. Dude, woman are freaks, I've been asked to dosome pretty f***ed up s***. This of it this way, if all that was legit true, the only way I could see the cops NOT arresting Bauer is because he wasable to produce such texts; of her soliciting him into choking her out andother acts. Look it up, the texts are online. Women are conniving, and yeah 90% of sexual assault accusations are accurate, but they get believed 100% of the time and there is almost ZERO repercussion for that 10%. A woman could literally ruin your life tomorrow and there's nothing you can do about it if you're a man. I get that Bauer is a PR nightmare, also probably past his prime, and not worth the headache by any means. But there's just as much evidence, if not more he was falsely accused than the other way around. But yeah, whatever, Bauer isn't worth it for so many other reasons. But we can can, or at least we SHOULD put the he's a sexual assualter accusations to bed. Also, I think most people who suffer from sexual assault would also want to see people who make false allegations face justice. It's a two way street.

I don’t have to lie like you to make a point, I’d admit when I’m wrong. And I have more of a track record in here of just that than most. [insert emojis like a teenage girl here] What I said was I understand that sometimes teams have to kick in money to make a trade work. You’re the one who claims you like the trade, but don’t like giving up the money at the same time and then have been on a tirade about against trade ever since. Show some conviction here, you have to give something to get something. What I actually SAID was if the Sox were willing to sign Montgomery to a contract, or if they were willing to sign Snell to a contract. $17 million dollars in ONE year isn’t changing that. You’re making it sound like the Red Sox won’t sign one of those guys because of this deal. That’s just mindboggingly incorrect. The Sox have said time after time, they would go over the luxury tax for the right person. Meaning, if they like Snell at 150/6, they’d sign him at that contract whether or not it puts them over the cap. Ownership has said they will do this. Now that natural rebuttal is. Why believe ownership? Well that’s precisely what you’re doing in your belief that the Sox have a budget. Because they’ve told us so. You don’t get to pick and chose which things you believe in coming out of the front office then call someone stupid just because they have a different opinion based on those same sources you reference. And just to be clear on this, there’s more recent precedent of the Sox going over the luxury tax limit than there is them signing quality free agent pitchers. So let me state my point again, as clear as daylight, so we all know why RED thinks I’m stupid. [insert little girl smiley, monkey face emojis here] $17 million dollars not saved on Chris Sales contract for ONE year will not have any affect on whether or not they sign Snell or Montgomery. Whatever price they would or would not sign those guys at is 100% unchanged by that deal. We get it. When Grissom is good you will say you always liked the trade. When the pitching is bad, you’ll say we could have gone out and got a pitcher that we were never going to sign anyways with that extra $17 million. You’re hugging the line, you’re going to take credit for being right about that trade no matter what happens with it. You lack conviction. [insert monkey, blush face unicorn emojis here].

I’m not even sure we sign one of those guys right now.

Yes, you like simple. We all know that.

Are they highly leveraged? If anything, high interest rates may have been an incentive to use more equity and less debt to expand.

You’re arguing with someone who thinks Jeff Foxworthy is an IQ test, just give up, you can’t win. Some people will never understand the difference between apathy and failure. Henry has failed. It’s as simple as that.

I predict more 2024 Hartford Yard Goats games for me.