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Everything posted by notin
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Click has been a lot less active than Bloom. Most likely because he didn’t need to be…
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I think he will be fine. But it didn’t happen overnight. This is the big off-season for him…
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DD did get those and Rusney as well. But Henry didn’t let it impact what DD got to spend. Maybe he trusted him more? Maybe it was the pathetic 2014-15 run. But when Cherington took over, the budget was so tight we had to deal Marco Scutaro just to sign Cody Ross, hardly a household name himself. DD never had that level of budget scrutiny. I think DD is the only Sox GM in the Luxury Tax Era that Henry never made reset the limit…
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I remember one off season not too long ago when you were all about the Sox getting Correa. To me, Correa is the better player more likely to live up to the contract. But Bogaerts is our guy. I’m not sure we get either, but I won’t be upset with either one, depending on the terms (years)…
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So.. not answering, I see. Just another guy with all the answers. Until he gets asked for them…
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Probably. Not sure why popular opinion means anything here, though. And would they still like him when the team was filled with bad, bloated, immovable contracts on aging and injured players? His MO in Boston was “spend heavy and deal away the farm.” That’s not always a good MO, and it’s pacing itself out of the game. 7 years ago, the contract he gave Price at age 31 was ridiculous. Nowadays, it would be an obstacle. But not as bad as the 10-12 year deals players want. If DD can adapt and not dole out those mega deals (save for special talents), he’ll do much better for Philadelphia. Of course, if DD was the genius his fan base keeps reminding me he is, why didn’t he extend Betts?
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Another way to look at it that’s far more accurate. He took over a team that won 78 games and turned it into a 93 game winner. And did so by handing out the biggest contracts in team history. The team won 15 more games. It’s a good improvement but not the historic one you keep trying to sell it as. Of course Rick Porcello alone won 13 more on his way to the Cy Young…
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I still think they sign Correa if they sign any shortstop. No QO…
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So tell me how was Bloom supposed to unload Sale’s contract? By the time Bloom joined the team, that contract hadn’t even started yet and Sale was already diagnosed as needing TJ. Please enlighten me about how a 5 year contract goes away in 3 years for a pitcher in his 30s who is owed $145mill and coming of TJ surgery? Do you need 3 years to answer?
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You want Click? Really? The guy is Chaim Bloom Redux!!! Click started out in the Rays organization with Bloom in 2005. Both were writers for Baseball Prospectus. Both are deep into analytics. The differences? Click has shown he prefers to just let free agents walk. Don’t like what the Sox got for Betts or Vazquez? Compare it to the Astros haul for Correa, Cole and Springer. Also Click walked into a GREAT SITUATION. The Astros had a slew talented pitching prospects whose only flaw was they drew less press than the hitting prospects in Toronto. And the guy who built it all got canned for cheating - not for doing anything bad to the budget out the farm. But for letting players slap trash cans. But the grass is always greener, I guess…
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So you clearly don’t get how these long term contracts work…
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The big difference between the two was Dombrowski was handed a great core of young players, a highly-ranked farm system, and an open checkbook. That’s the perfect situation for any GM. Bloom was hired to clean up a bloated payroll and had no immediate help on the farm. That’s a ridiculous job. Frankly I’m impressed the team did turn spring and have a successful 2021, all things considered, and coming from the shortened mess of 2020, it was an immense surprise. You might be willing to admit Dombrowski didn’t completely build the 2018 team (not like it’s tough to prove otherwise) but do you admit he did his share to build the 2022 last place team? I bet he was responsible for as much if not more of that payroll as Bloom was…
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Right. But Cult Dombrowski goes back to 2018 daily. And if you don’t also consider 2021, then you’re making all your decisions on one single year. Are you saying that’s smart? I suppose if it gives you the answer you wanted all along…
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If Story can’t play 2b and Devers can’t play 3b and Bogaerts can’t play SS, the Sox are going to have a horrible logjam in LF. Devers really isn’t an average defender. He’s a below average glove with a bat that more than makes up for it…
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Millions? I’m calling you out on that one. We’re there millions of Bloom Dissenters after 2021, too?
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And how many of them think Bloom is being cheap in spite of the $230mill payroll? How many of them think Bloom chose to trade Betts? Or that Bloom should have negotiated more with Betts? How many of them blame Bloom for Sale still being on the roster?
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2b is locked up for the next 5 years and if you sign Devers, 3b is locked up for a while, too. There are reasons to sign Bogaerts and reasons not to…
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Not to mention, plenty of people only go public to complain about something. The entire business plan of Yelp is based on this…
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And people on this board called him out repeatedly for being cheap simply because he didn’t sign big name free agents to huge contracts. Until some of them realized the Sox still had one of the highest payrolls in MLB.
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Bogaerts would be a tough call for me. The bat plays. The glove doesn’t. And if you can extend the more critical player in Devers, what do you do with Bogaerts once you realize he isn’t a shortstop anymore?
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Absolutely. Multiple options. No need to rush. Not like Devers - with one year to go - is going to give the Sox any discount for signing him early…
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Exactly you can’t sign any player until that player is ready to sign. That includes Bogaerts. Of course the idea the Sox need to rush with Devers is ridiculous. Signed out not, he’s on the Sox in 2023…
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Why on Earth would they need to do that? And was Devers offer really a lowball offer?
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No. It turns out that just because a lot of people believe something doesn’t make it true. A lot of people used to think the old was flat - heck some still do. Does that mean it was ever true?
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He’s competing against galehouse in that game. I will say that is definitely the big leagues…
