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Everything posted by notin
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But the calls to trade JD weren’t because of his hitting. He did exercise two options to stay in Boston, most likely because he knew he wouldn’t do better elsewhere given his performance…
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I think this was a case of simply mitigating the risk. You can’t take on too many fragile arms and Sale and Paxton are already on board…
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I assume that’s just a theory as we don’t really see it…
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The sad part with the defensive flaws has been the reluctance to change anything. Again, I’m fine with Kike getting a shot as a makeshift shortstop, but what does he have to do to lose that role? Hit poorly? Apparently not. Field poorly? That’s not it either. Maybe his lackluster baserunning will be the difference maker…
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Not one of whom gets to make that call…
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The Sox didn’t have 2023 to go by when they made the call. Where was Eovaldi’s upside in 2022 compared to Kluber? Eovaldi also came with a lot more risk, especially given that he wanted multiple years…
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I was with you until that last line. Bloom’s job isn’t to solely focus on this year, and this has always been true of every GM ever…
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In August, 2022: “Why didn’t Bloom trade JD?” In June, 2023: “Why didn’t Bloom keep JD?”
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Since they passed on Andrus and apparently had some faith in Mondesi, I didn’t mind giving Kike a shot. But it should have ended a while ago. Hamilton, for all his defensive shortcomings, deserves a shot at being an upgrade. (That’s on Bloom.). And Reyes could be penciled in any time. (That’s on Cora.)
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Not sure. I wasn’t a huge Hill fan, but it seems like I liked Hill a lot more than Cora apparently did. If I was Hill, I wouldn’t have wanted to come back. Of course, there’sa good chance Hill felt differently. Not a 100% chance, of course…
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This debate largely started over the failure to return two more oft-injured pitchers to a staff that’s short-handed due to injury. With Sale and Paxton already here, should the Sox have gambled on Wacha and/or Eovaldi as well? This staff is already loaded with pitchers who cannot withstand a full season to the point where Nick Pivetta is actually considered sn “innings eater” because he can reach 150IP in a year. Kluber was never going to be anything more than a one year stopgap (unless he dazzled). But why do people want all these injury-prone atms on the rotation on multiyear deals? Not happy with the low total of starter IP just from Sale?
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Perez did nothing in his first two chances in Boston to merit a third chance. Heck many (myself included) felt he didn’t deserve a second one. Even Texas hasn’t been all that keen on him as shown by their repeated one year deals. Perez left, and the Sox pitching was better for it. Hill deserved a second chance more than Perez deserved a third one…
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There’s a fair point about the difference in the metrics. But also, even if he did pitch well last year, at Kluber’s age, health history, and mileage, a sudden drop off wouldn’t be a surprising result either. He was a risk just like Eovaldi and Wacha, but he was at least just a one year risk…
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No one is questioning his performance this year. But the Eovaldi that the Sox had to choose to extend was coming off a year of 109 IP and a lofty Fenway ERA. Somehow they apparently (per MLBTR) did offer him a multiyear deal anyway, but probably for less than Texas did. Apparently his deal with Texas can reach 3yrs $63mil with incentives and Eovaldi chose to bet on himself. But I doubt he sees them since he would need to reach 300 IP in the next two years and he hasn’t accomplished reached that total over a 2 year stretch like since 2015. I’ve been saying it since his first contract with Boston - the issues with Eovaldi have nothing to do with his talent. And on a staff that already has Sale and Paxton - two other deals in wasn’t wild about - adding another high injury risk pitcher is just asking for trouble…
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You said Bloom always steps down. Then you changed (and are sticking with) the baseline for Perez to how he pitched in Texas. Texas, which is not Boston. Perez want that good in Boston. Hill and Wacha (whom you refuse to acknowledge for this whack job theory) were steps up for Boston…
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I didn’t spin anything. You did…
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The point of the post was all his new pitchers were not steps down, as was erroneously stated previously…
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I bet you also didn’t check Eovaldi’s home road splits from last year. Fenway : 5.26ERA 1.48WHIP Away: 2.64ERA 1.02WHIP
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Right. Especially if we ignore the age gap. The one that puts Kluber in the “one year deals until they dry up” phase of his career while Eovaldi should still be attracting multiyear offers…
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There is something about this that should raise questions. Why was Eovaldi’s deal so low? We focus on Boston not tipping it for obvious reasons. But there are 28 other teams that didn’t either. Heck his own hometown Astros, who were in on him in 2019 and had just lost a Cy Young winner, stepped aside at that money. Other consistently injured pitchers like Jameson Taillon and Taijuan Walker managed to land 4 year deals. But not one team would go that far for Eovaldi?
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Technically it was a bad word for Greinke. Not sure how in on Greinke the Sox really were..
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700hitter has ripped every move Bloom has made. This is not news…
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You’re trying to force the data to fit the conclusion and it doesn’t work. You can’t use Perez as a Ranger after he left Boston to compare to Hill and call it a step down. Garrett Richard hasn’t pitched anywhere since Boston; why can’t we call AAV move an improvement over him? The bottom line is Bloom replaced Perez (0.6 fWAR) and Richard (0.5 fWAR) with Hill (1.8 fWAR) and Wacha (1.5 fWAR). That’s not a step down. Your premise that it always happens is complete BS. Is Kluber a step down? Certainly looks that way, but quit pretending it was so obvious. Eovaldi threw 109 IP last year and was worth 1.0 fWAR. Kluber threw 164 IP and was worth 3 fWAR. I can see why Kluber was signed, and given that Eovaldi just gave the Sox 400 IP on a 4 year deal, I can see why he wasn’t offered multiple years. If he took the QO, Kluber isn’t here. What do you suppose the over/under is for IP for Eovaldi on this contract?
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No I’m not missing any points. Bloom clearly didn’t want Eovakdi back - and probably Wacha too - because both of them are very risky for multiyear deals. You know, like Chris Sale is showing us. Wacha in particular wasn’t even all that good in recent years when he has pitched. Try revisiting the one year old commentary when he was originally signed. His numbers are on full display alongside the shock. I have no idea whom Bloom wants in the rotation (besides Houck) but it wasn’t anyone on the market this year. And you can only sign the guy you want when he’s available. So rather than committing multiple years to a pitcher he didn’t want (again, probably for the very realistic and history-backed injury risk) for multiple years, Bloom brought in a one year stop gap solution. As fans, we often only look at this year. But GMs can’t do that…
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Did you want him back for multiple years?
