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Everything posted by notin
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Yawkey was racist, but he was hardly alone. Doesn't excuse it, but no reason to isolate him either. There is a reason MLB is the only sport that makes a big deal out of breaking the color barrier. The NFL and NBA also had first black players at some point, but does anyone know who they are without first checking on Google?
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I assumed it was Pedro Borbon. Pedro Borbon Sr, of course...
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Pomeranz pitched in the All Star Game as a starter 4 days before we acquired him. His first full season in Boston, he was 17-6 with a 3.32ERA.
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Yes. If you learned anything from 2013-14. I expected it to be different because everyone around them was trying to get better, but the Sox stood still. What do you suppose next year will look like if the teams around the Sox continue to try and get better and the Sox still stand pat?
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The only deal I would definitively say was an overpay was for Kimbrel. The Sox gave up two BA top 100 prospects at the time, along with another pitching prospect in the top 10 of a deep farm, and took on the entire contract. Fans criticize the Thornburg deal because it didn't work out. But to give up a decent 1b/3b and an unranked INF prospect for 3 years of a pre-arbitration closer seems like the cost of doing business. Actually, compared to what other pre-arb closers like Ken Giles went for, it might even be a cheap deal. But it became a bad one because Thornburg got hurt and never recovered and Dubon panned out...
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Actually being popular among players might be detrimental to being GM. The arbitration process can get ugly at times, and, likable or not, Papi would have to make cases about why a player deserves less money than he asking for. That can absolutely destroy the very camaraderie you want him to bring...
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I nominate Kimmi
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I think a bit too much gets made of that. (And it was only 12 years, before Bellhorn gets to this thread.) It's not like Jackie broke the barrier and then every team but Boston had black players for 12 years. The Tigers brought up their first black player only one year before...
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That already started. See Post #7 of the thread below. https://www.talksox.com/forum/threads/19511-Red-Sox-have-fired-GM-Dave-Dombrowski
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The Sale deal was the cost of doing business. I would say the same about the Thornburg deal. The trade for Kimbrel was an overpay and the trade for Smith might have been a lack of homework. The trades for Nunez and Kinsler I can call the cost of doing business, but in both cases the Sox gave up an arm who is actually doing well in MLB...
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I think it’s unlikely, too. I think they will either trade Betts or non-tender Bradley or both. And if they trade Betts, whatever they get back hopefully jump starts the off-season...
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If you like reading off-season headlines and count on them for inspiration and hope for the upcoming season, it’s nothing but boredom and malaise, especially after this year. The message would be what - “we’ll just play better!”? I expect them to reset and still try to win. And those goals aren’t mutually exclusive. But I don’t expect them to trot out what clearly didn’t work this year and tell me to expect it to be different. Definition of insanity ring a bell?
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I think sometimes the Hindsight Jury needs to include the caveat that maybe the front office actually knew something...
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I made an account at Sauxheads but never made a single post. I typically limit my activity to one message board at a time. That both PG and SBF post there isn’t selling me on that board...
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If you find inactivity and malaise surprising, I guess. You’re not doing much to shatter the stereotypes of accountants...
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He had some injury problems in 2018 and never got going. But he was stellar in 2017. The Sox got 2 1/2 years of Major League starts for a pitcher who threw 32 minor league innings in 2016. If we kept Espinoza and he got hurt, he’d actually have less value to the organization than Jay Groome...
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PumpsieGreen was another one who questioned everything and had all the answers. He’s over ruining the freeforums board now. Once on that board, he ripped Farrell for not bringing in Barnes and costing the Sox a game. Farrell later had a press conference and said Barnes was overworked and unavailable. Pumpsie refused to admit Farrell might know something about this and absolutely insisted Barnes was available. Absolute classic...
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No idea if Papi would even be a good bench coach. And he’s given no indication he wants any type of job anywhere. The only thing I (think I) know is he is extremely revered among the Dominican players. That’s definitely a plus...
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My mistake. Bottom line, while I thought that deal was an overpay at the time, I don’t know if Dombrowski gave up Espinoza because he simply conceded to the high price or because his people advised him that Espinoza might be a health risk. If we judge that trade by hindsight, it certainly worked out for Boston...
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So you would be excited with this team if the off-season played out according to my previous post?
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True. Like the Sox, he sold off lots of parts for a title. The changes made to free agent compensation have hampered his farm-building style...
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Sure it is. But status quo doesn’t make for an interesting off-season...
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Do you remember Bigfoot on BDC? He was actively ripping Theo (or “Guitar Boy,” as he called him) for destroying the Red Sox during the World Series!!!
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Betts. And the most tradable is Bogaerts..,
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Not hearing that. He may no longer be a demi-god, but no one seems impatient in Chicago...
