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Crochet pitched 13 innings, Hendriks pitched 5, and Giolito pitched pretty well… -
It’s just one method of evaluating players and trades. And it cannot account for teams’ willingness to overpay or whether or not they even want certain players. Really it’s goal is to determine if trades are fair, but not every team wants their trades to be fair…
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BTV gives Cease a surplus value of $10mill. That suggests he could be had for any one of David Sandlin $9.8mill), James Tibbs, Mikey Romero , or Yoelin Cespedes. I doubt he can, but if he could, would you do it? I expect competition to drive his price up. But if his value held, I could see moving Cespedes Orin him…
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Was Clevinger a wife beater? I thought he was just a baby beater…
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Neither Giolito nor Cease were part of that team. If we’re discounting anyone who EVER pitched for the White Sox, aren’t we thankful for unloading Sale?
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Mookie was most definitely not traded at the deadline. Devers really wasn’t either but at least the season started…
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A Realistic View of the 2025 Red Sox: Part II
notin replied to moonslav59's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Any team that strikes out as much as the Sox should absolutely NOT bunt in extra innings of road games. A sac bunt plus a strikeout leaves them needing only a hit or a gift from the defense to score… -
Not sure how possible moving Youkilis back to third was. He was OK there before, but the move back in 2011 proved disastrous defensively. We built that team around the wrong Adrián…
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LaRoche got 19 at bats for Boston in 2+ weeks because they were set at 1b (Youkilis) and DH (Ortiz) and LaRoche made a lot ($7mill back in 2009). They dealt him for the cheaper Kotchman. LaRoche also had career long battles with ADHD, which made him difficult to keep in as an unegaged bench player. That affliction was a big part in his career ending prematurely and ultimately lead to the Sox acquiring Chris Sale…
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Acquiring Hosmer didn’t annoy me nearly as much as Bloom’s attempt to sell to the world that it solved anything…
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… which starts at a much younger age than it used to…
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Everything was better? What about prices? Back in 1975, you could take a family of 4 to Fenway, pay for parking, have everyone gorge themselves hot dogs and drinks and still have enough money left over to get their stomachs pumped. And all for less money than a parking on the green line and buying a single ticket just to ride the train. Today if you tried to do all that, it would cost the 1975 equivalent of 4 years tuition plus room and board at Harvard for students whose names do not end in a Roman numeral…
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Lackey for Kelly and Craig was a stupid trade. I’m not giving Cherington credit because Kelly had a good stretch several years later. The Sox were out of it, so they dealt Lackey (who had a full season at minimum wage left) for two veteran players? And then Cherington dealt Lester for Yoenes Cespedes (whose contract made him ineligible for arbitration and went directly to free agency). What was Cherington thinking? Possibly the worst mismanagement of trade deadline assets in MLB history. Even Bloom’s inactivity made more sense…
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It’s really hard to think of actual bad deadline moves made by the Sox recently. Moyer for Bragg back in 1996 was the last bad one. Since then we have what? Santiago Espinal for Steve Pearce? Was it really a bad trade? Espinal has had a good career, but we did deal him for a WS MVP, which is kind of the whole point with deadline deals. Beyond that, maybe the worst one was Ty Buttrey for Ian Kinsler, but at worst that one grades out as “inconsequential“…
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July 30, 1996
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Why? The Sox gave up two players who turned out good, but Boddicker was 39-22 for Boston with 11.4 bWAR in 2+ seasons. Anderson WS worth 1.7 bWAR over the next 3 seasons and Schilling was worth 0.2 bWAR over the next 4…
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Never understood that trade…
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Every team that makes trades makes bad trades at some point. The trading deadline hasn’t been too bad for Boston. Bagwell for Andersen was 35 years ago. What’s the worst one since?
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The reason the Sox are waiting is the selling teams are waiting until all offers are in so they make sure they get the best deal. It takes two to trade…
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Feinsand: Starting Pitcher Top Priority For Boston Red Sox
notin replied to Matthew Lenz's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
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Ok, but that’s a huge factor. Trade value is a meaningless concept; it’s not like a price tag in a store. Websites like BTV calculate it based on WAR and salary, both current and projected. But that’s a lot of guesswork and future voodoo involved that may or may not come true. While most teases probably use similar systems, at the end of the day, only two real world factors establish the value. 1) How much Team A wants to trade the player and 2)how badly Team B wants to acquire him. If Team A wants to dump him for salary reasons or attitude problems or he whines when asked to play first base, then Team B can probably get him for less. But if Team B wants to acquire a player more than Team A wants to deal him (especially if they need to outbid Team C), then the price goes up. There has been far more buzz about Duran than Bubic. But Bubic is a pitcher, which is always in high demand. But I don’t think that alone puts him so far ahead of Duran and his extra years
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How does the KC front office feel about Bubic? Let’s be fair about evaluation criteria. Duran clearly peaked last year and you were not alone in advocating a sell high. But Bubic appears likely headed the same way. If this is a time to sell Bubic high, 3+ years of an All Star outfielder is a pretty good get. And as for Duran’s perception, most of the media feels he will be among the most valuable players traded this off-season - sobering no one has said about Bubic, although that might be related to how many think he could be traded.
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1. LF is harder than RF now? 2. Lefties start 40% of opposing games? (Duran’s OPS vs LHP this year is far below Abreu’s.) I do agree Bubic, whose career before 2025 included a 4.66 ERA and a total of 2.5 bWAR in 300 IP, might be overvalued by some…
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It’s a different day. Of course 3+ years of Duran is worth more than 1+ years of Bubic, unless you base their value solely on their performances in 2025 and 2025 alone. The only real question for KC is can they sell their pitching while simultaneously building their lineup and put together a winning team with that formula. They’re not very good, and only made the postseason last year because going 12-1 against the worst team in MLB history masked a sub- .500 performance against the rest of the league…
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Huh? You just said this tab lacks hitting, contact, and rub scoring in general. And then followed up with Breslow needs to get pitchers…
