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  1. Well, if we trade Mookie this offseason, it will be be because of the contracts left behind by Dombrowski, specifically the contracts of Price, Sale and Eovaldi. If they do not trade him and he leaves via free agency, it will be because the Sox did not make the best offer (or made no offer). But the Sox offer might be limited by a budget that includes those same 3 deals. Especially if they are still paying luxury tax against Henry's wishes. While Mookie might want a change of scenery, nothing about him so far says he would reject a better Boston offer just to change teams...
  2. I guess it was 4. And in those 4 years, he drafted 21 pitchers who reached the majors...
  3. He was GM for 3 years and drafted 3 MLB starting pitchers (if you count Beeks as a starter). How often do you think other GMs draft MLB starting pitchers? He was not great at it, but he was not pathetic. The only reason it did not work out for Boston is Dombrowski traded away all three SPs before they reached the majors. Are you actually holding that against him? You want to argue someone got a betetr pitcher later than Kopech? Itr's worth pointint out, another GM thought enough of Kopech to deal Chris Sale for him. Look at it this way. No Kopech? No Sale. No Allen? No Kimbrel. No Beeks? No Eovaldi. Also, likely no 2018 title. He drafted good pitching and has that in his track record. His big problem was he refused to trade any of it away. He was a prospect hoarder. Other than saying "well he didn't draft this guy" that numerous other MLB GMs also passed on, do you have anything to support your claim?
  4. Starling Marte should probably contact his realtor...
  5. Cherngton also took Logan Allen with the 231st overall pick (8th round) of the 2015 draft. Five picks later, the Padres selected Chris Paddack. Apparently he has no idea how to draft pitchers. (sarcasm)
  6. 25 teams passed on Mike Trout, including the Angels once. Does this mean none of them know how to scout players? Saying he doesn't know pitching because he passed on a high school pitcher who worked out better is pretty weak evidence. Especially since Kopech might work out better in the long run. There was a time when Kason Gabbard looked like he was going to work out better than Jon Lester, too. But those are the kind of evaluations one makes when they're made too early...
  7. I'm sure he can figure it out. The past two seasons the Red Sox had a 1B they liked, which was probably a big factor in why JD didn't play there. This offseason, maybe the want to see who will be at 1B before moving Martinez there.
  8. Yes it could very easily be painful. But this is the price for Dombrowski's actions. DD did win a title, but he left behind a very expensive team that has a few missing pieces and no minimum wage replacements. We all enjoyed winning in 2018, but losing Betts this offseason could easily be part of that price of that title...
  9. Well he did play 1b. But later on he also wound up training velociraptors in a Cretaceous-themed zoo. So maybe his career path is best not duplicated...
  10. Except Henry. The only one matters...
  11. Well, if the Sox pitchers never got hurt, trading Mookie might still be on the table, as the team would still be extremely expensive. But more important, let’s not pretend these injuries were not foreseeable. Sale ended 2018 having problems. Price has been off and on with injuries for the previous 2 seasons. And Eovaldi is always hurt. Sure, maybe 2018 was just a stroke of bad luck where the 3 combined for less than 60 starts. Or maybe this is what they are going forward. Trading Mookie may or may not work out. But if you don’t, and you go for it in 2020, then you delay reset for a year and lose Mookie forever. If the Sox trade Mookie and reset, there is at least a chance at bringing him back. Of course, trading Price does the same thing. But it’s a lot less likely to happen, and still might be more costly...
  12. I’m not blaming Betts for this season. I’m saying fans would rather have a winning team over star players. The stars were more important when the team wasn’t as good, because they gave us something to root for once we knew another year went by without a title.
  13. All stuff Betts is not immune to. The fact is Nomar was King for a long time. That he had a very quick and overblown fall from grace just shows how temporary those titles can be. Sox fans like stars, because when this team sucked, we still rooted for Boggs to win a batting title or Clemens to win the ERA title or strikeout title. But that was then, when we didn’t see an end to a drought that started during World War I. Now we’ve seen rings and flown flags and had multiple parades. Think about - the Sox longest title drought is 86 years. The second longest - nine years, and that one ended in 1912. The longest title drought since 2000 - 6 years (2007-2013). Not only does this team take titles, it takes them without making everyone wait. And THAT is the new norm for Red Sox fans...
  14. I know. I’ve already done all the research. Make some calls, Chaim!!
  15. Nomar was one half season removed from being a 6fWAR player when he was traded. Fred Lynn was valued at 8.6 fWAR one season before being dealt. That really is Betts territory. The Lynn trade didn’t work out, largely because Sullivan made a stupid trade. (Why was Lynn traded?). It will be a tough sell if Betts gets traded. But if trading Betts is the first step to resetting and bringing him back long term, sign me up...
  16. Yes, but how should this team get more pitching or improve their pitching if: 1) they cannot afford to pay anyone without exceeding their self-imposed spending limits And 2) they have no internal minor league options to try and none to trade for established players? I know many think “don’t impose those spending limits.” And maybe they won’t, but it’s not like this team has been held back by their unwillingness to spend, and they do have the right to dial back every once in a while to minimize penalties...
  17. Tell them. They’re are two possible reasons for changes. 1) Change in (projected) salary. Expect a bunch to change as arbitration cases end. 2) Change in projected future WAR.
  18. While moving Betts could be unpopular with the casual everyday he gets his sports news from Bob Lobel (is he still working?), that doesn’t change the fact that fans want one thing more than star players - winners. When defending Dombrowski’s depletion of the farm, not one single fan said “But he got star players!!” No one ever justified the Nomar trade by saying “Orlando Cabrera is a bigger star, and most definitely not a slimy little selfish weasel about to disembark on a trail of burned bridges around MLB.” The Sox were an 84!win team last year. No one was happy. Bring back the same team, maybe an 84 win team again. They had Betts, too. This team is capable of mediocrity with him or without him. Does keeping Betts and winning 84 games next year really retain fans? Especially if they reset the taxes and can’t add anyone? And then lose Betts to free agency helps those fans how?
  19. I see they updated Myers’ value. Hey if the Padres have to include a few of their prospects to help with their 40 man roster crunch, all the better. David Price for Myers, Trey Wingenter and Jorge Ona...
  20. We all knew if he was great for 3 years he would opt out. But once he got injured that second year, the chances of his opting out plummeted drastically...
  21. No. Once he spent 2017 basically out of action, I suggested the only possible reason he would opt out was he simply wanted out of Boston, a scenario I considered very unlikely. I was told repeatedly he was not opting out, which was the same thing I said, but still told so rather aggressively...
  22. Starting pitching was the problem last year. But would you consider Price to be part of the problem or part of the solution?
  23. Ok but they did go 37-20 against Baltimore, Toronto and Boston...
  24. Yes, nearly. Although my dissent was not so much prophetic as it was my normal disdain for long contracts. Still, Price went sour too quickly, and replacing him with a pitcher who shows up for more than one season in a 3 year stretch might not be so hard. I wouldn’t trade him for Robinson Cano (also owed $96mill, but with a $24mill AAV). But if the Sox can pawn him off for a far, far lesser bad contract like Wil Myers or Rougned Odor, I think it’s a good idea. And it might allow the Sox to hold on to Betts...
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