moonslav59

Of course, if we keep "playing like this" nobody should think we are odds on to make the playoffs, but why assume we do? This team has been up and down, all year. To think we have to keep playing badly is just as delusional, right?

That is what I am expecting, too. While I have not lost hope things might change, I no longer expect it to happen. It's not impossible to strike gold on these 1-2 year deals, but we have been awful at it. The best of all our attempts were Wacha and Hill, and both missed time, when we need them most. Paxton did okay for a big chunk of his second year, but he missed time, too. You mentioned things changed "since DD was fired," when it actually started during DD's last year, here. We let Kimbrell and Kelly go and added nobody to the staff. Also, his last two big pitchers signings did not do great with their extensions (Sale & Nate.) I know I am hoping against hope that we make a big splash with the staff, this winter. We really need 2-3, minimum, but even one seems beyond my imagination, now. I still think a big trade has more hope of happening. (More than next to nothing is not saying all that much.)

At least you didn't say "facts are facts," because once again, you got your numbers wrong. Yorke is 9 for 25 on the farm, not 10 for 25. The others you listed are playing against the big boys. Better luck, next time.

Woo was rained out and Sandlin got drilled at POR, but some exciting news from some bats: Ehrhard went 3-4 w his first dinger. Campbell & Teel both went 2 for 5 with dingers. Anthony went 1-5 w a dinger.

Just finished watching the game on delay. That was painful. Another winnable game lost. At least Houck looked real good... maybe something to build on. We had many chances to bust open a crooked number, and even the "right guys" up, but kept coming up short. Oh well, get 'em, tomorrow!

No FT job has been handed to Mayer. He has not even been promoted to AAA, yet. He is certainly highly regarded and in the mix, but for opening day 2025, I would not even say he is the front runner for a middle IF slot. Story is, if he is healthy, and of course that has been the question with him, since joining the Sox. Assuming we do not add anyone else to the middle IF mix, this winter, I think several players will have a chance to win the job, including DHam and Romy (or a DHam-Romy platoon) who both have the rest of this season to improve or lessen their chances of winning a lot of playing time in 2025 or even the starting 2Bman job on opening day. A lot depends on who is our SS. I think it will be Story, but if Mayer wins a job, it could easily be SS, with Story moving to 2B. If that is the case, the only job teh rest will be fighting for is as our utility IF'er. To me, Mayer is no sure bet, especially for opening day 2025. That is why I think Grissom has as good of chance as anyone else for that job. There are just too many moving parts to know for sure who has the inside edge on the job. 1. Story (SS, or maybe 2B, if and when Mayer wins the SS job) 2. Mayer (IMO, most likely SS not 2B) 3. Grissom 4. DHam-Romy platoon at 2B 5. E Valdez (D sucks) or Meidroth (3B/2B/SS) are long shots 6. Campbell (not ready for opening day and may move to OF) (Numbers are not their rankings.)

He could really use a lights out night from Houck. The Astros have had some real bad stretches of little offense, and have not had Tucker in the line-up for 3 months, so tonight would be a good chance to right the ship. Houck has had one good start since June 25th. Last 6 starts: 6.16 ERA and 5.95 FIP or First 12 starts: 1.85/2.19 Last 10 starts: 4.82/4.32 GO SOX!

We all misread things, on occasion, myself included, and we admit it when we do. The thing that gets me is almost every time this poster says, "Who’s said anything about ____?" It's not the person he'd directing the question to.

MIN beat CLE 4-2 and play another game, tonight. They also found out Brock Stewart will miss the season and Joe Ryan is out "indefinitely." Yanks-Rangers rained out and will play DH'er, tomorrow.

O'Neill will replace E Valdez, once he comes off the IL, but I can't see Grissom taking Romy or DHam's slot on the 26, unless DHam slumps even more than he has been the last few weeks. Once the rosters expand in September, maybe he gets a call-up, but I would not feel sure about it. I do think he has an equal shot at the 2B job for opening day 2025, with Mayer maybe being his toughest competition. (I think we will decide to keep Mayer in AAA to start 2025.)

I sure hope our pitching staff can regain some of what they lost along the way. We have too many floundering SP'ers and up and down pen arms, right now. It's hard to imagine us getting into the playoffs or advancing in them very far without some sort of revitalization. Maybe Martin can find a groove, like last year. Maybe Slaten can bring some life into the pen. Maybe Jansen can build off his last game's success. Maybe the two new guys, Garcia and Sims can bring a spark to the pen. Kelly and Bernardino have not come close to their earlier success, but maybe... Wink & Criswell offer some hope, and maybe Booser can return, or Hendriks surprises us. The rotation is one total question mark. There is very little to build much hope on. Nobody is showing signs of life. At best, Pivetta gives us a good game, here and there. We need several pitchers to turn things around in a big way and quickly. While our offense has been on an .885 tear over the last 28 days, our staff has allowed an .847 OPS Against during the same time.

What has saved the day at 2B, this year has been this... .937 Romy's OPS vs LHPs. .726 DHam's OPS vs RHPs (with 19 SBs vs Righties) Their D has not been awful, either. If they had sucked, Grissom might be getting another look, real soon.

In all fairness, you did say "READY" to give up, not that anyone has, already or has totally given up. (Somebody misread your post, "YET AGAIN!") Grissom has plenty of years of control remaining. If he is goodenough, he will have ample opportunities to show it and win a job on the 26. I think he has as good a chance as anyone else to be the opening day 2Bman in 2025. To me, the biggest chance of him missing out is if Story is healthy and mayer makes the opening day 26.

He can try, but it won't work. It didn't really work, last winter, but I do agree that he probably thinks it did, and the more exciting team tis year "proves" he was right (in his own twisted mind.) I remember thinking after 2022 ans 2023, that the success of 2021 probably hurt the team, in the long run. It gave the FO cover to hide their true intentions and kick the sham into overdrive.

We had yesterday off, despite having 2-3 mre games to play than most MLB teams. While the loss column is very important, we will need to win those "extra" 2-3 games to just keep pace. That being said, only 7 teams in MLB have less losses than us, and we are very close to many of them: Least losses: 46 PHI 47 CLE 48 BAL & NYY 49 LAD & MIL 50 MIN 52 BOS, KCR, SDP 53 ARI 54 NYM & ATL 55 HOU 56 SEA 57 STL 58 SFG The WC Standings: NYY and BAL are tied for the ALE lead and the top WC slot at 68-48 63-50 MIN 64-52 KCR (-0.5 from MIN) 61-62 BOS -1.5 (tied loss column) 60-56 SEA -4.0 (tied for ALW lead) 58-56 TBR -5.0 The AL and NL each have 9 teams with winning records and 6 with losing records. The AL has 6 teams more than 5 games out of the WC or division lead. The NL has just 3 teams that far out.

I'm trying to be hopeful, but I'm not setting my expectations and higher than us replacing Pivetta, in kind, and Jansen & Martin with lesser quality replacements- basically 3 "meh" signings for the big league staff.

He missed a lot of time. He likely has a few things needing work or fine-tuning. I still think he has an excellent chance of winning the 2B job, next spring. I doubt we see him, this year. Our current middle IF mix has been doing well enough to not need replacing, as of now. Of course, things can change, quickly, as we all know.

A testament to just how deep our farm is, particularly non-pitching. The top 3 get a lot of press, and the next 3-4 are starting to get more and more talk, but the rest are pretty promising, too.

Agreed. This year, it's the Portland line-up that jumps out at me. BTW, they are 59-44 on the season. (WOO is 52-59.) I think these records may flip, next year, unless we call up 3-5 big names early in the season.

I doubt more than 1 or 2, if that. I'll be surprised with just 1-2 big names. More likely we sign another Gio type and 2 Criswell-types.

WOO won 6-3 as Fitts did okay: 6IP, 5H, 2ER, 1BB, 7K Weissert 2IP, 2, 0, 0, 3 Gasper homered (1.158 in AAA) Hickey hit a 3 run job. POR won 4-2 as Dobbins let up 8 hits and 2 BB in 4.1 IP, but just 2 runs. Teel walked twice. Ehhard 1-4 GRE & SAL washed out.

So, ... Casas is rehabbing in AAA and may just be days away from a call-up. O'Neill may return Aug 15th. Slaten has been cleared to throw 120 feet. ESPN lists Aug 16th as Est return, but I doubt that. Hendriks will face live batters on Saturday. His ETA is around Sept 1st. Not sure how much we can count on from these guys, but maybe we catch lightening...

No doubt. I keep thinking they have intentionally waited for the big splurge, until everything was lined up, just right. Now I'm not so sure. I'll believe it when I see it, but that should not be taken as me thinking it will happen, someday, anytime soon or ever. "How Soon is Now" has been my feeling for a while, now. To me, the team is "lined up," now. We have a solid 13 going into 2025 without even counting the ML ready or near ML top prospects. We are actually overloaded with everyday talent for 2025 and 2016 and should use it. While our pitching looks awful, right now, I do think some pitchers took strides and can be pencilled into some key roles for 2025 and 2026 or beyond. That being said, to me, we clearly have some major holes- and I mean MAJOR! We need an ace. We'll need a closer and a top set-up man. We'll need another solid SP'er and more SP'er depth. I'm thinking 4 pitchers is minimum, afterall, we need to replace Jansen, Martin and Pivetta. Adding just 4 barely replaces what we lost. More likely, we need 5 solid pitchers to join what we bring back, and hopefully some of the guys we bring back can be in less important roles. SP 1 ____ SP 2 Houck SP3 ____ SP4 Giolito SP5 Crawford SP6 Bello SP 7 Criswell/Priester/Wink/Fitts/Dobbins Closer ____ Set Up ____ RP 3 Hendriks RP 4 Slaten RP5 Whitlock RP6 Kelly RP7 Bernardino RP8 Booser/Fulmer/Mata/Weissert/ICampbell/Horn When you look at the ML and near ML ready prospects, they seem to line-up very well with out expected needs with several players "left over." Refsnyder, our best batter vs LHPs is under control through 2025, and RHB Campbell should be ready by 2026. RHB Jh Garcia should be ready by 2026. The Abreu-Ref platoon looks fine for one OF slot in 2025. Duran and Rafaela cover the other two. Anthony is surplus, or he could fill in, if we trade Abreu or Rafaela. I know many look at how awful our middle IF has been for over 5 years, and I can't disagree: it's been god-awful. This year's numbers don't look great, either, but I see a major improvement coming, and the last 6-8 weeks has already shown an improvement on what we have seen since losing Bogey (and Story to injury.) I know counting on Story is like expecting Sale to have a big year, err... wait! I realize we cannot count on Story for 2025 and certainly not beyond, but he is one of the many that can be used to fill the slots, adequately, if not very well. While I do not think we can afford to trade Mayer, due to the doubts on Story, I do feel a lot better about our depth than before, this year. SS: Story or Mayer, Romy-DHam 2B: Story or Grissom, Romy-DHam (Campbell, Meidroth) I do think if Mayer got us a TOTR pitcher, we could absorb the loss at middle IF. I am not one to think trading the best catching prospect we've had in 50 years is a good idea, even if we were certain Wong can continue like this. Teams want ML ready prospects, nit guys like Cespedes, Arias and Bleis. It has to be Anthony or Mayer to get anything close to what I'm thinking. I hope it doesn't take both. It will likely take something like Anthony, Meidroth, Valdez and Fiits for the type of return I want.

The top 6-7 is way better now, AND I do not think they felt we were one SP'er away from being a top contender, despite the 2021 results. Just my opinion. I'm thinking the "plan," if we can call a sham a plan, was always about 2025 or maybe even 2026. Why trade for a TOTR SP in 2022, 3-4 years ahead of the window? (Note: I wish we added a top SP'er every year.)

In a heart beat. I'm not upset. It takes much more than one game to do that. I was just commenting on how I felt really good about winning, last night, until the 5 bomb dropped on us.