moonslav59
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He turns 24, this July. He began playing in the Sox organization since 2018. (5 years.) On soxprospects.com he reached #4 in the fall of 2019. #5 in fall of 2020. #9 end of 2021, but #18 to start 2022. Out of the top 30 by the end of '22.
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Agreed, but for some reason the middle and last years of Theo seemed to kick it all off. Theo's last drafts and IFA signings, working backwards from 2011: #19 Barnes (1st Spx pick) #36 Owens #143 Noe Ramirez IFA J Aro 2010: #39 Ranaudo (3rd pick taken) #57 Workman IFA Frank Montas 2009: #77 Wilson (1st selection) IFA Wm Cuevas 2008: #30 Kelly (1st selection traded for AGon) #45 Bryan Price (see Hagadone) #85 Stephen Fife #108 Kyle Weiland 2007: #55 Hagadone (1st selection and part of Masterson & B Price deal for VMart) 2006: #28 Daniel Bard (2nd selection) #40 Kris Johnson #44 Caleb Clay # Masterson (was a good pick but not great) 2005: #26 Craig Hansen #42 Buchholz #47 M Bowden IFA Doubront 2004: 95 Dobies 125 Hottovy 185 Cla Meredith Lester was drafted in 2002. Anibal Sanchez was signed as an amateur FA in 2001. One could argue that after Buch, Theo was not much better than the next 3 GMs.
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And Anibel Sanchez (w HRam) for Beckett (w Lowell) and Kopech (w others) for Sale. Beeks for Nate.
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Predict the 2024 AL East standings
moonslav59 replied to Randy Red Sox's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
LeMahieu to start season on IL. -
Yes, this goes back about 2 decades, if you count the years we drafted Lester and Buch. (Also Anibel Sanchez and Masterson)
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Adding guys like Whitlock, Slaten, Schreiber, Bernardino and Winckowski is not costly. Dumpster dives like Hill, Wacha, Kluber, Richards and maybe even Gio are more costly and have been mostly unhelpful. If our system of finding and developing young pitchers does not improve, or even if it does, we won't see instant results in a meaningful way for a while, we will have to add outside pitchers one way or another. Dumpster diving should just be part of that process, as hitting on some makes it worthwhile. We need to invest in real talent, at some point- either by trading everyday players/prospects or spending big on a FA and hoping we don't swing and miss. I'm not sure when or if this happens, anytime, soon.
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Yes. Half way to opening west coast trip
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Boston Compression Sox
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I think the chances he stayed on a MLB roster all year were pretty low, so maybe they did expect to get him back.
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I’m thinking Whitlock & Slaten > Ward, Drohan and Song (who is now back with us)
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Again, I am not saying drafting college players is or would have been better. I’m just pointing out that HS picks do not help GMs on 4 year plans keep their jobs for longer than 4.
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Yes, I realised that after I clicked submit. I’m a mess. My Mom has cancer, and we are awaiting follow up testing. 3 in: SEA, KCR, NYY CHC, SFG, SDP
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3 lists of the best 4: Sox developed: Houck, Bello, Crawford, Montas Other team developed: ERod, Whitlock, Winckowski, Slaten Traded for vets: Nate, Sale, Porcello, Price
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Yes. I forgot the PED guy. Both lists are pretty bad for a ten year window. The list of acquired pitching prospects is as good, if not better. The list of acquired vets is littered with failures, too, but has enough gems to bring us some intermittent joy: Wacha Nate Porcello Sale Price More than a decade ago: Beckett, Schilling and Pedro
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Not taken personally. I think I have been higher on Pivetta than most, and he’s actually been pretty good for 2/3 of a season, a couple times in 3 years- half in the other. I offered up those numbers as something that might offer some promise or optimism, but I fully realize the chances are not good that he has a good full season. He did add some pizazz to his pitch selection over the final 4 months of 2023, so maybe the chance are better than even I give him. No doubt, our hopes rely way too much on 5 SPers who have never shown they can go 32 starts of even #2-3 slot effectiveness. That is an awful plan and situation to put your fan base in to start a season. While all 5 do show promise and have proven they can pitch very well for long stretches, it’s hard to be optimistic about even 3-4 putting it all together in the same season. We need 4-5 to do it.
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Kopech now sucks Springs was not developed Masterson ???
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3 in BAL, TBR, TEX LAD, ATL, PHI 3 out HOU, MIN, TOR AZ, MIA, MIL,
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The fact is, we’ve done better diving and trading for pitchers than developing our own. Since Lester and Buch… Houck Crawford ????
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It is eye opening that some of our best rookie pitchers over the last decade started in other organisations: ERod Whitlock Winckowski Maybe Slaten, Sandlin and others to come.
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Predict the 2024 AL East standings
moonslav59 replied to Randy Red Sox's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
The worst we can do is to stay the same: last place. -
I agree and agreed before.
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Yup, the Gio signing notwithstanding
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That was unfortunate, although Lee did have a rough 4 starts to begin August of 1978: 23.2 IPy 32 Hits 8 BB 6 Ks 5.32 ERA 6.56 FIP .954 OPS Against His last 3 starts in July (5.00 ERA/4.09 FIP) were not all that good. His last 7 starts of 1978, before being banished to 3 pen games the rest of that season: The team went 0-7 5.18 ERA 5.49 FIP .870 OPSA IMO, Lee should have been given a chance to get back in the rotation. He was pitching very well over the first 4 months. (3.21 ERA/4.28 FIP)
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I know. I did. I said my prediction was not bold.
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Yes, I was speaking to the 30/12 averaging about once every 3 years. Again, I'm not holding this up as any sort of great accomplishment. I was merely responding to a statement made in frustration about the Sox "not making the playoffs in recent years." To me, 3 years ago is "recent."
