moonslav59

What would you say the odds are that just ONE of these two becomes a decent 3/4 SP in MLB? I'm guessing less than 50%. Maybe 50% just ONE becomes a decent #5. Second Q, do we have anyone ranked 31-60 that looks anywhere near promising?

Typical. It's a minor league deal, so no biggie.

I was just correcting the statement that he is 35. I like the trade, especially since we are not going anywhere, this year. If we don't sign Monty, I'm all for a fire sale of all 1 year guys and anyone else near the end of control and aging or not looking like a key for the 2025 or later teams.

I'm still clinging to the sliver of hope that this is just temporary.

I'd say for sure. I'm not sure what his trade value is, but if we could get a good SP'er with 4+ yrs of control for Duran, Yorke and Mata, I'd do it.

Agreed, but we don't have to pretend things about Schreiber to make the trade look better.

I think the teams that were spending got what they wanted. Others are waiting for a bargain, and do not think the players left are worth the asking price. There are 4 guys that are far from journeymen. Snell and Monty are top 20 or 30 SP'ers. Bellinger and Chapman are solid FT plus players.

I keep checking in on MLBTR to see if one of the big FAs have signed. This is really weird.

Schreiber is 29 and had 2 arbs years left, after 2024.

While true, being the best pitching prospect in the Sox organization may not mean all that much. I like the deal more, now, than I did at the time of the deal.

I'm not going to pretend the Sox can match teams like ATL, BAL, LAD, HOU & others, in terms of the strength of prospects and recent grads, but we have a pretty nice list of players under 27 or so... 17 Asencio 18 Cespedes, Zanetello, Anderson, Arias 19 Anthony, Joh Garcia, Brannon, Yuten, E Soto 20 Perales, Castro, Romero, E R-C, Paez, Ravelo 21 Mayer, Wikelman, Yorke, Paulino, Jordan, Monegro, K Campbell, C Early 22 Teel, Meidroth, Bastardo, Sena, Reimer 23 Grissom, Rafaela, Guerrero 24 Bello, Casas, Abreu, Hickey, Mata, Dobbins 25 Winckowski, Murphy, E Valdez, Hoppe 26 Campbell, Slaten, DHam 27 Devers, Crawford, Houck, Whitlock, Duran, Wong, Criswell, Walter The 23 in Red look pretty good.

I hope he and new set of people can give both a lift. Perales turns only 21 in April, and has been in the system for 4 seasons, due to missing 2020. He doesn't even have 150 IP, total, yet, but we were forced to add him to the 40. Wikelman turns 22 in March and has 5 seasons in our system, also missing 2020. He barely has over 300 IP, total. These two still have a few years to develop, but they are fast losing their chance as starters. They need to show something, soon. Fitts just turned 24, and apparently lacks a third pitch. I guess it's not too late to find one, but he seems destined for the pen. Sandlin turned 23, today! He apparently has 3 plus pitches. sxoprospects.com says he has " ...at least average with an above-average command and control profile. Stuff appears to have ticked up during winter workouts heading into the 2024 season but it remains to be seen if he can hold those gains into regular season action. If the improvements with his fastball that he showed in the offseason hold, projection could change. Exciting arm with considerable upside if things click." He might be the guy with the highest upside of the top 3. Monegro is 21 and might be a pen arm, at best. Stepped up some in '23, and there might be hope he can again in '24. Slaten is 26 and is a pen arm. Dobbins is 24 and has 3 secondary pitches, so maybe some hope there. E R-C is the youngest of the top 25 or so. He has a 4 pitch mix with 3 upside pitches. I'm not seeing a lot of hope, but it's good to see Brez & Co. trying to add to the mix. Adding 3 in the top 7 pitching prospects before your first draft does show a commitment. (It took a while longer for Bloom to add Whitlock & Winckowski.)

I'm sure Pedey knew they knew. I think he was saying "Hello! Is anyone in there? It's not too late!"

Nobody ever asked these questions. Now, there never is even an opportunity to not ask these questions.

I think they have decided they want to make more money. Maybe they are waiting for the big 3 prospects to arrive, and then will make up for skimping, but I have my doubts.

He probably knew they were looking at Lorenzen and Lauer, and wanted to remind them, better players were still out there. LOL!

It is somewhat "amazing," as you said.

Where did he rank in 2022, before the injury?

I'd say yes, and he likely is not worse than Devers.

I agree, but you know, it's easy for the guys not signing the checks to think, "We should spend more."

If Ref can play 1B about the same as Dalbec, he'd get the 26th slot, IMO, due to his ability to play OF after PH'ing. His OPS splits since 2022 blow Bobby Dee away.

I'm not disagreeing, but are their direct quotes of back-stabbing or just reports from totally objective journalists?

No. They are pretending they are listening, but yes, with no follow through, it is just hearing.

Give Ref a 1B mitt. It's hard to be much worse than Dalbec on D.

It gives the impression they are "listening." More sham.