moonslav59
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6-10 in OPS, yes but like I said much of the value a catcher brings to the table in not quantified by stats or data, and those areas happen to be what VTek excelled at. Many of the catchers with better OPS had mediocre to horrible reputations as staff handlers or defensive catchers: 1999-2008 .881 Piazza .865 Posada .837 IRod .832 VMart (was already playing 1B/DH) .826 Javy Lopez .803 Mike Lieberthal .788 VTek I'd say he was top 4 or 5, but that's just m, I guess.
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.872 to .809 is close enough to say it's "pretty close", then when you add the defense, it's pretty even. The age thing shouldn't mean much since you said to compare the AA numbers. It also neglects his AAA numbers the next year, which were better. Again, in the context of the debate over who was ML ready vs rushed, I can't see how the numbers showed a younger player with no AAA numbers was ready, but a 2 years older player with very good AAA numbers and better defense wasn't. Only in hindsight-looking at the early MLb results- can anyone claim JBJ was not ready while Beni was ready. Would calling up a 30 year minor leaguer who sucked the first year or two in the bigs and then did great be labeled as "rushed" using this criteria?
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That would be great, then Stanton would have to settle on the lowly Sox as the only team left. (LOL) It should be noted that Miami already dealt Dee Gordon, so maybe keeping Stanton could happen.
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Yes, his first 6 seasons were with Colorado.
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Cashman to get a 5 year extension. Are the rumors real?
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I doubt we win without VTek.
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I doubt that's the reason or a major reason. Who knows. He's always been streaky.
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Big shoe drops (lol)... Chris Iannetta signs with the Rockies for $8.5M
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It's well known, VTek was the man when it came to how to approach opposing batters.
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Not many, from any team, can top Fisk.
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Did he not like what happened during negotiations? Weird. Why not say "no" to STL before all the wooing?
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LAD has no DH. SEA already had famous Japanese stars. It ws said that Ohtani wanted to "blaze a new trail" somewhere (my words). LAA makes sense in that light.
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JBJ was an awesome defender very early. My point was that the "not close" in AA statement was incorrect.
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It's rare that a player who does poorly in the minors does well in the majors- not so rare for a player that does well in the minors but poorly in MLB.
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Merry Christmas from John Henry... Sign: JD Martinez, Santana & Shaw Trade: JBJ, ERod, Hembree & Chavis for Chris Archer 1. Bogey SS 2. Betts RF 3. Beni CF 4. Martinez LF 5. Santana 1B 6. Devers 3B 7. HRam DH 8. Pedey 2B 9. Vaz C Bench- Leon, Swihart, Hernandez, Brentz SP: Sale, Archer, Price, Pom, Porcello, Wright RP: Kimbrel, Shaw, Smith, Kelly, Barnes, Scott, Maddox ML-ready on the farm C- Romanski 1B- Chavis, Travis & Ockimey by August? 2B- Quiroz 3B- Holt (Chavis) SS- Lin, Marrero (out of options) OF- Castillo, Tavarez, Barfield & Mars SP- Johnson, Velazquez, Beeks, Elias, Haley, Shepherd RP- Thornburg, Workman, Taylor, Buttrey & Martin
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I'm still fine with signing Moustakas (or Machado next winter) and moving Devers to 1B.
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A rare time that money is not everything.
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JBJ AA (at age 22) .809 in 271 PAs AAA (at age 23) .849 in 374 PAs Beni AA (at age 21) .872 in 263 PAs With JBJ's superior defense, even at age 21, I don't see a big difference in overall skill level and "ML readiness" between the two at age 21-22.
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My position is that you can't just tell by looking at the numbers in hindsight. Personally, I don't think JBJ or Beni were rushed. I don't think Devers was "ready" defensively, but was brought up out of necessity. I guess one could call that "rushed". I would not.
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...and speaking of eras. VTek played before all the computer analysis took over. He was a walking encyclopedia. His knowledge of opposing hitters was legendary.
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Maybe warmer weather (vs SEA & CHI) and an ability to DH (vs all NL clubs).
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Does hindsight then mean JBJ was rushed, because he sucked when he was called up?
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20th out of 105 and my Bogey comp was Bogey being 29th out of 30 on defense. I've never said Bogey was an overall below average SS. IMO, he is a below average defender. Yes, I view 7th out of 30 as being a "top catcher", especially since pitch framing and handling of the staff are not covered by WAR or OPS.
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I don't think Devers was in DD's 2017 plans. Beni was.
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Why trade a mess of prospects for a guy making about $17M x 2, when you can just sign Santana at $17M x 3?
