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Agreed, and with an IF that is at least below average at every other position (assuming Devers at 3B, HRam at 1B and Bogey at SS), we can't afford to be terrible at 2B on defense. IMO, Swihart would have to be great offensively to outweigh the drop in defense. I'm not seeing that happening to start 2018.

I can't see us spending large in either money or prospects to add a 2Bman until we know Pedey's status a little more clearly, and we see how Marco Hernandez and others look out of the gate next season. This year, we added Nunez mid season without giving up too much. I think we wait until at least May to decide on a possible out-of-the-system option. Hopefully, we won't have to use any valuable resources to upgrade 2B for a couple more years anyways.

I looked at the game logs for 2017, and he stayed pretty steady for 4 moths, then he fell the last 2. Here's his cumulative OPS every 1st and 15th of the month. (Note: as the season progresses the numbers go up and down with much more difficulty.) .971 .931 .849 .931 .894 .937 .878 .918 .873 .853 .859 .818 (pretty consistent up to SEP 15th) Now, the 8th and 22nd of every month .786 (after 4 games) .931 .931 (missed games from April 20-May 11) .847 .945 .892 .897 .901 .906 .876 .864 .830 Duda played in 127 games this year. How many times did his OPS fall for... 9 straight games? 1 (end of SEP, which included one game going down .001 and another .002 with an 0-1 game) (5 for 37) 7 straight? 1 (which included a game he went 2 for 5, but his OPS was so high and .800 game OPS hurt him!) 6 straight games? 1 (1 for 19 stretch) 5 straight games? 1 (0 for 12 stretch that included an 0-1 game) 4 straight games? 2 3 straight games? 7 I just don't see many prolonged slumps in 2017, except for his last 11 games of 2017 (4 for 39). Or, his last 15 games at 6 for 52. Cherry-picking a few others, I found... 15 games (Aug 17-SEP 4) 5 for 47 with 4 HRs 12 games (APR 16-May 21st with injury in middle and 2 zero for one games) 4 for 33 with 0 HRs (basically a 10 games slump) 10 games (Jun7 to Jun 17 including an 0-1 game and a 1 for 2 game with a BB) 3 for 32 (basically a 9 game slump) 6 games (JUL2-JUL9) 1 for 16 (hardly enough to call a real slump) 5 games (AUG8-AUG 14 including one 0-1 game) 0 for 15 with 2BB Basically, from April to AUG 15th, he was pretty consistent, then he had two very bad stretches sandwiched around a 4 games stretch of going 5 for 14 with 3HRs His last full season before 2017 was 2015. Here's his every 7 or 8 game cumulative OPS... .855 .916 .896 .851 .834 (7 for 56 or .125 over 11 games, including one at 0 for 1 to go from .896 to .834) .840 .934 .898 .878 .863 .813 .779 .772 (11 for 70 or .157 with 2 HRs in 20 games to go from from .863 to .772) .770 .827 .822 .810 .805 .838 So, basically 2 bad slumps of 11 and 20 games with the rest being remarkably consistent and good. I've seem much streakier hitters than Duda,

Well, one year deals like maybe for Duda would allow us to do something :later". I don't like "half ass" either, but I'd like to see us add one big piece and a couple half-ass ones. I don't think we should add a 2Bman until we see how Pedey is recovering, and how Marco looks. Finding a 2Bman mid season should not be that hard, although guys like Nunez are not available every summer.

My position is to sign someone like Santana or Morrison AND Duda to DH and play some 1B. I could see us signing JD Martinez or trading for Stanton and then going for a cheap 1 year fix at 1B with Duda splitting time with HRam, and Stanton or JD playing DH/4th OF'er. If we end up trading JBJ for a pitcher and using Stanton or JD in LF, I could see Duda being our DH and back-up 1B to HRam. I do not see Duda as the only significant offensive addition.

I'm thinking they may try Swihart at 2B to be the 3rd or 4th string in case we get into pinch hitting for Marco, Holt or Marrero. I just can't see him as a serious contender for the starting 2B job for April & May. Maybe (big maybe) if Pedey has not returned by June, Swihart might improve enough and/or others have struggled enough for him to win the job.

He got promoted to AA this season and struggled a little bit.

H a p p y T h a n k s g i v i n g!

Even if Hosmer goes for $150M/6 vs Santana at $60M/4?

Granted, Daubach fell off a cliff at age 31-32 after those best 4 years. Certainly, Duda could do the same at age 32. At about $6M/1, I think it's worth the risk.

Daubach never had quite as much power as Duda has. As for the injuries, Duda did miss most of 2016, but he played in a league with no DH. In his other 3 seasons since 2014, he's put up these PAs: 596 554 491 (Note: he has also been platooned at times, so some of the missing PAs were not due to injury. His 1413 PAs vs RHPs places him 128th out of all ML players.) As for streakiness: I'm not one that cares a lot about streaky. Just give me .800. Besides, the data does not support your position. 2017: .927 on April 13th .926 on July 2nd (Lowest point: .798 on May 21st) Still at .901 on August 10th. Dropped pretty steadily after that to .818 by season's end. Month by month .931 April .927 May .896 June .901 July (That's 4 months of very consistent awesome hitting. Not "quick flashes.)) .702 Aug .622 Sep 2015: .915 April .948 May (2 months is not a quick flash) .576 June .749 july (not bad) .976 Aug .961 Sep (another 2 month "quick flash.") 2014 saw no month below .708. He had a 2 month streak of .956 and 1.006 in June-July and an .841 in SEP. While Duda's BA has been low (career ,242 and below that from 2016-2017), he still gets on base a lot. On Daubauch, he was a hell of a player for a short period of time. I'd sign him at $6M during his best 4 year stretch (1999-2002). He was a pretty streaky hitter. 1999 4 months over .909 2 months at .759 2000 1 month at 1.091 1 month at .798 3 months between .720-750 1 at .469 2001 2 months over .894 2 months between .843 and 866 2 months between .743 and .785 2002 3 months .945-.971 1 month at .879 2 months .529-.614 Daubauch 1999-2002 vs Duda 2014-2017 Daubauch 1947 PAs .266 84 234 .342 OBP .494 SLG .225 ISO Duda 1813 PAs .238 94 211 .338 OBP .480 SLG .242 ISO

I'm not totally discounting it, but if a guy gives me a .338 OBP, .480 SLG and a .242 ISO, I'm more than fine with him getting zero productive outs. Then, add the fact that he might sign for just $6-8M/1 year,a nd I'm all in.

Overall since 2014 (289 players with 1000+ PAs) ISO .301 Stanton (1st) .274 JD Martinez (4th) .242 Duda (13th) .224 Abreu (27th) .201 Moustakas (59th) .199 Santana (61st) .196 Morrison (68th) .160 Hosmer (154th--Yuck!) SLG .574 JD Martinez (2nd) .573 Stanton (3rd) .524 Abreu (13th) .479 Duda (39th) .469 Santana (52nd) .459 Moustakas (69th) .449 Hosmer (81st) OBP .363 Santana (28th) .362 JD Martinez (32nd) .359 Abreu (37th) .350 Hosmer (55th) .338 Duda (90th) vs RHPs since 2014 (226 players with 1000+ PAs) ISO .281 Stanton (3rd) .260 Duda (9th) .259 JD Martinez (10th) .224 Santana (34th) .220 Abreu (38th) .220 Morrison (39th) .206 Moustakas (54th) .205 Reynolds (56th) .203 Frazier (60th) .199 Moreland (64th) .174 Hosmer (107th--YUCK!) SLG .557 JD Martinez (4th) .542 Stanton (9th) .521 Abreu (17th) .505 Duda (20th) .480 Santana (42nd) .475 Hosmer (50th) OBP .370 Hosmer (17th) .360 OBP (36th) .355 Duda (46th) .355 JD Martinez (48th) .354 Abreu (49th) .352 Stanton (57th)

That's a lot of good to take with a few extra K's! Besides, this whole "productive outs" argument is flimsy. For one thing, it rarely happens. For another, I doubt Duda's 17 less SF's vs RHPs than the league leader since 2014 is all that significant (about 4 per year).

An out is an out. I'd rather have a K than a GIDP or weak pop out/ground out. Like I said, as long as he gets on base well enough, which he has, I'm fine with every out being a K. Duda has some pretty good numbers over a 4 year stretch, and at his price tag, I'm interested. 2014-2017: .338 OBP .480 SLG .242 ISO (tied with Bryce Harper for 12th in MLB) Now, play him only vs RHPs and he'll be even better! .260 ISO (8th in MLB over the last 4 years!) .506 SLG (25th in MLB and higher than any current Sox player) .355 OBP (45th out of 226 and tied with Pedey as the only current Sox player with an OBP equal or better than Duda's.) With these numbers, I'll take a 65% K rate, as long as he gives me a .350 OBP and a .480+ SLG%. Hell, I'll take a 70% K rate, if Duda gives me a .300 OBP, a .500 SLG% and a .240 ISO.

No, it's not. I do not think Marco has a lock on 2B. I also think Holt is in the mix. Marrero is out of options and may end up being the odd man out, but he may make the 25 man roster just to keep the depth.

One reason I like the idea of signing Duda to "compliment" HRam at 1B and DH. He looks to be one of the cheapest sluggers on the market this year.

I was responding to a poster who claimed Marco has not played in over a year, when in reality, he was management's first choice off the bench this season: first to cover for Bogey and then to cover for Pablo. He played in 21 of our first 27 games. He ended up having his non-throwing shoulder operated on in late May. He missed the rest of 2017. I do not think it will be an issue next year, and I've heard he is expected to be the odds on favorite to start at 2B next year until Pedey comes back.

HRam has rollercoastered his whjole career, and most of his dips have been injury-related. Of course, he could easily get injured this year, but if he's healthy, I think he'll be much closer to 2016 than 2017.

I'd go as high as $8M/1 or $14M/2.

The "s" and "d" are next to each other on the keyboard. Sorry.

The only time high Ks bother me, is if the guy's OBP is low. Duda still gets on base enough, when he doesn't HR. He was over .349 from 2013-2015, and his .322 OBP this year was not that bad. His .496 SLG% this year would have led the Sox by 37 points! At such a low cost, to me, it's worth it.

I think he's a better defender than Holt, so if his bat projects better, to me, it's his job to lose. I do think Holt, Marrero and Lin may do so well in spring training, while Marco struggles from returning from injury that Marco starts in AAA. It's not a slam dunk.

Did you mean there's no reason he WON'T be ahead of the others? Those double negative get confusing.

Who cares: just hit .850 with 28-30 HRs for about $6M/ 1 year.