I didn't mean to bring up the uniform cutting as a topic of debate, but when things are slow, it happens.
The way I had hoped the conversation would lead to is how hard it is for fans (and GMs, too) to really know what kind of clubhouse effect any player will have on a team. I remember some being worried about Sale' effect based on this incident.
I remember how much people praised Josh Beckett for bringing his "winning attitude" to the 2007 Red Sox. The guy was on pace for becoming one of the best playoff pitchers of all time. Then, suddenly, he's a cancer.
I'm not doubting player attitudes matter, but it is hard to judge from very close up, let alone as far away as us fans are.