moonslav59

Yes, I get your point. We're talking just the 9th inning. How many 9th inning blown saves do they have? 24 save opportunities 11 saves __ Hold? __ blown saves? Until we know the "hold" numbers in the 9th, we can't say they did poorly 13 times. Where are you getting your data?

Here's some 2018 ninth inning numbers: OPS Against (PAs) .214 Hembree (24) .367 Brasier (18) .511 Kimbrel (210) .546 Kelly (48) .677 Thornburg (28) .701 Barnes (24) .776 Velazquez (48) .792 Johnson (34) 2017 .243 Boyer (21) .266 Kelly (31) .446 Kimbrel (229) .693 Scott (41) .804 Abad (33) .818 Workman (31) .843 Barnes (44) 2019 .350 Walden (12) .364 J Smith (11) .490 Barnes (28) .536 Hembree (8) .705 Velazquez (11) .724 Brasier (26) .896 Brewer (14) 1.473 Thornburg (27) Some very small sample sizes.

What if in 12 of those 13 "non saves" they got the first two guys out, and then Kimbrel was brought in to get the final out and was credited with the save. Did they really "fail" just because they did not get the save? I'm not saying this happened, and it is very likely they did not do all that well in some of those 13 non saves, but to just assume they did poorly in all of them is not based on any data.

They could be taken out without blowing the save before the game ends, and the next guy gets the save or BS.

Beni has way more PAs than most players on the Sox. Here are the K% for Sox players (65+ PAs) % 36 Pearce 30 JBJ 27 Chavis 24 Beni 21 Moreland 18 Bogey 17 Nunez 17 Vaz 15 Devers 15 Betts 15 JD

I'm not blaming him for our losses. I do think our pen could be improved by replacing him with someone we could think of using beyond just blowouts.

I wanted him gone after last year. These 17 innings only confirms what I already thought.

2 wins away from .500 on a small sample size of games.

I've been done "waiting" on Thornburg for quite a while. He's never going to "come around," IMO.

Agreed, but they have not caught on, so not many would understand, if we used them.

If they created a new metric whereby they counted OBP as 60% of "OPS" and SLG% as 40% of "OPS", it would be more accurate, but hard for many to understand, so we don't do it. 3 x OBP + 2 x SLG = Adjusted OPS 5

On defense, all flash and little substance. On offense, he was a god.

What I listed were not my opinions. They were what I expect might happen based on what I know at this point in the season. Pedey will be called up, if he gets healthy enough. I'd probably rather have Nunez or Pearce on the 25 man roster than Pedey, especially if it means we have to DFA one of them to make room for the "fragile" Pedey. I'd rather keep Holt over Pedey, too, but we are not going to DFA Pedey or keep him down against his will.

Whenever we try to compare players without using "metrics" there are a ton of "moving parts" anyways. Yes, TGeddy hit more HRs than Runnels. We include fielding, base running, OBP, and other stats that may be easier to understand, but hard to weigh in order of importance. We have to more or less wing it by looking at numerous stats to decide who we think is a bigger plus overall. WAR tries to do all that and put it all into one number. Of course, it's flawed, but so are we, when we try to juggle all the stats to compare players. The people who created WAR used a lot of science and data to determine how much each aspect of the game contributes to runs created (offense) or saved (defense). Personally, I don't need to have to understand every algorithm and computation to trust that they probably do a better job than I do at pulling everything together into one determination. To me, the defensive input is probably the hardest for casual fans to factor into overall value. If you don't use defensive metrics, what do you use? Eye test on players you barely see play? Fielding percentage? Then, how much more valuable is it to be the best fielding SS in MLB vs the best fielding 1Bman? What weight do we assign to positional value? WAR is not perfect. OPS is not perfect, but no singular stat or metric tells the whole story. WAR probably comes the closest. To me, OPS does a pretty good job at showing all around batting value- it's better than BA alone, OBP alone or SLG% alone.

I'm not implying Johnson is any kind of "answer" to our issues, but he'll probably be better than Brewer, Thornburg and Weber. My guess is we trade for some pitching at the deadline, and one or two of these guys end up off the 25 man roster - one way or another.

True.

They even lost their minor league hockey team.

Roster moves to ponder.... Leon returns: O Hernandez goes down. Price returns: Josh A Smith goes down DFA Thornburg: Call up Pedey or Holt Eovaldi returns: DFA Brewer The toughest call is when the last one healthy out of Pedey & Holt are healthy. We'll need to choose from these options (assuming everyone is healthy): 1) Create a phantom IL stint to prolong the choice (Pearce, Nunez, JBJ). 2) Trade or DFA Nunez or Pearce. When Johnson is healthy, we may have to demote Weber or ______?

Lakins or Poyner can't be any worse, either.

So, solo HR, right?

...or James.

Yes, last 48 hours. Let's DFA everybody.

Too many guts are tuned into just the previous 24 to 48 hours.

I said the same thing over a week ago. He's never going to regain what he had long ago. Cut the ties today.

Before tonight: OPS .765 RISP .846 RISP w 2 outs .865 Late & Close .769 Bases loaded .982