moonslav59
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The package without Myers makes some sense, or if they pay all but $5-7M per year on Myers's contract. No way I trade Betts and add a future (likely) deadwood contract. The other part of the package does not do enough to offset his negative input. The MLB trade simulator says the Padres fall short by 38 by including Luchessi & Quantril- not just one! Basically, SD would have to give over $35M, Myers, Campusano, Luchessi, Quantril & Cronenworth to be accepted on the site. I'm not saying the site is accurate, but the offer you mention is far short of even.
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Ward has been increasing velocity and added a cutter. He pitched 25 starts and 126 IP, this year, at age 23. You might be short-changing him. Groome is a big question mark, and you are right about 2020 needing to be his year to show serious growth. You also did not mention Jimenez, but he is pretty far away.
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We should have no problems with rule 5 for a while. Weak farm. Weak 40 man roster depth. Rule 5 DEC 2020: Christopher Acosta Eduard Bazardo Garrett Benge Gary Calvo Marino Campana Pedro Castellanos Kutter Crawford Ricardo Cubillan Chad De La Guerra Jerry Downs Jose Espada Rio Gomez Matthew Gorst Jay Groome Hunter Haworth Tanner Houck Matt Kent Jose Larez Adam Lau Dominic LoBrutto Nick Lovullo Everlouis Lozada Bryan Lucas Charlie Madden Alan Marrero Joan Martinez Bryan Mata Tate Matheny Alexander Montero Oddanier Mosqueda Brendan Nail Brett Netzer Tanner Nishioka Emerson Ortiz Michael Osinski Yorvin Pantoja Keibert Petit Isaac Pinales Antonio Police Bobby Poyner Roniel Raudes Austin Rei Jeremy Rivera Kleiber Rodriguez Jagger Rusconi Kelvin Sanchez Yasel Santana Zach Schellinger Alex Scherff Nick Sciortino Kervin Suarez Jake Thompson Josh Tobias
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The money hit for 2021 and 2022 makes this a clear no. Clearing budget space to reset is not the sole purpose here. We need to set ourselves up for 2021 and beyond, budget wise. Betts is not a salary dump player, so why should we treat him as such. The only way we should take Myers is if they take Eovaldi or Price- or at least give us Patino. Campusano is highly rated, but catching prospects are more miss than hit.
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A good summary. I'd add Ward and Groome as possible pitching prospects with high potential.
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That sounds more like it, to me.
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I looked the other day and was surprised to see us 25 to 1. I also found us ranked 4th or 5th in odds among AL teams.
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Is 25:1 ridiculous luck?
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I hear you loud and clear. Fire sale time. Begin the chant, "Wait until next year!"
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It wasn't a few hours days or weeks ago?
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Chances are Vaz or Plawecki need some IL time during 2020.
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My guess is he will be invited.
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They cost too much. Teams know they need some low cost studs, and a bunch of lottery tickets has a better chance than no tickets at creating some cheap stars. I'm not downplaying the importance of FAs and spending to fill gaps, but the 2004, 2007 and 2018 championships were built almost entirely from the farm of by trading top farm pieces for studs. Yes, JD Martinez, Vic, Lackey and Manny were essential, but without strong farms, we have zero rings in my lifetime. We sucked for decades. The same decades are farm sucked. We came close only when we had guys like Rice, Lynn, Evans and Fisk in the 70's and Clemens, Boggs and other later on.
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I get your point, and the 2013 season is not a shining example of strong previous farms leading to a ring, but the fact remains, we have no rings when the farm was weak for 2-3 year prior to the ring season. Every ring we have in my lifetime was won during or one year after we had a very strong farm.
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Agreed. I think they wait until the deadline. I understand the business side, but as a fan, my choice would be to go for it in 2021 or 2022 and give up on 2020.
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All choices, except 1 involve trading someone at some point.
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Agreed, but if SD is going for a 2020 win, having Workman and Chavis helps. Duran eases fear of what happens after Betts bolts. Eovaldi instead of cash could help them.
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Several of our vets came from our strong farm: Lester 33 GS 3.75 ERA Doubront 27 GS 4.32 ERA Buch 1.74 ERA Tazawa IFA Peavy acquired by trading prospects Ellsbury Middy had 17 Hrs in 348 ABs Nava went nutty in '13 Bogey was a key call-up Iggy contributed True, the bulk of the biggest players were FA signings, but we needed the players listed above to win it all, too.
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What's different, now, is that the system set up for building a farm is drastically different from decades past. That's one reason you see more and more teams desperately clinging to their best prospects. No longer can a rich team draft "unsignable players" late in the first round, and then sign them. No longer can a rich team strategically acquire players that will net them comp picks after they depart. No longer can rich teams just outspend poorer teams on the International FA Market. (This one is huge.) No more Bogey, Devers, Moncada, Margot, Espinoza, D Hern and other key players on past ring teams or traded for studs used to win rings. No longer is Henry willing to max out spending year-after-year. The "old" can never be new again. Those days are gone for good.
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Rings during or shortly after having a strong farm... Strong farm 2003-2007: Rings in 2004 and 2007 So-so farm 2008-2011: No rings Strong farm 2012-2017: Rings in 2013 & 2018 Weak farm 2018-today: No rings
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I'm not sure speed was the only factor in his high BAbip, but your point is a good one. That also begs the question: if he had good numbers last year based a lot on his speed, why should we expect/hope his hitting to improve as he moves up a level?
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Since 2003, there has been a strong relationship between having a strong farm stretch followed by ring seasons. For the decades beforehand, you are right.
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It's still 13-8 on wanting some sort of sell-off at some point before or at the deadline. I thought the vote would be flipped 8-13.
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Obviously not highly competitive, unless we max spending every year and never reset. We need a farm to stay highly competitive for longer stretches.
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No Eovaldi of Price? I'm not for this, but it was accepted... Betts, Workman, Chavis & Duran for Myers, Lucchesi, Grisham, Patino, Campusano & Marcano
