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Phillies claimed Trevor Kelley.

We'd likely have to free up some salary to sign the better players, and with so many open roster spots, I think it will happen.

The weird thing is, we kept a hold of him through all those injuries, and when he finally got healthy, we non tendered him.

True.

I think we are hoping nobody claims Marco and we send him to AAA as depth. We have too many Travis Shaw types already.

I think we acquire someone or Chavis gets first look at 2B.

I'm verklempt.

It appears "thumb in ass" = building a ring team

His decline started in 1984, but 1986 was much better than "decent." My bad.

That was a great year, but we're talking decades. The 70's teams were way more fun to watch almost all 10 years. How about the amount of seasons finishing 10 or more games out? 2- 2000's 2- 2010's 4- 1970's 5- 1990's (less if you count GB wild card) 5- 1980's How about 90+ win seasons? 7- 2000's (8 straight years with 86 or more wins- 7 of those with 93+) 5- 2010's (1- 89 wins) 4- 1970's (10 seasons with 83 or more wins) 2- 1990's (Not more than 88 wins until 1998) 1- 1980's (1- 89 wins) The 90's won more than the 80's, and the new playoff set-up helped us make the playoffs more often.

Lol!

Certainly '67 was so surprising, the magic was plentiful. (I was not following baseball back then.)

I suggested we sign Moose instead of Moreland a couple years back. $64 is a lot of money. It looks like prices are not going down.

While Rice had a decent 1986 season, it was not the old Jim Rice. Evans was buttah as he aged, and yes, he was fun to watch all through the 80's. I just think of him as a 70's guy, but he was better in the 80's. (My bad.)

If we trade JBJ, we'll need to acquire an OF'er. Why go out of our way to get a LF'er? This is not about metrics. It's about keeping Beni where he belongs: LF.

It would be easier to just acquire a CF'er not a LF'er, so we don't need to put Beni to the test.

The guy Leon replaces in Cleveland was a better hitter and a good defender. I guess other teams also value great defense from the catching position- not just the Sox. Leon was a plus on this team despite his sub .600 OPS. Just Sale's numbers with him vs Vaz were enough to make him a plus. Career with Sale: 2.51 w AJ P (226 innings) 2.79 w Leon (436 innings) 3.02 w Flowers (97) 3.36 w Phegley (88) 3.53 w Avila (112) 4.61 w Vaz (84) Also, with Price... 2.67 Avila (111) 2.85 Molina (473) 2.96 Leon (204) 3.06 Jaso (191) 3.09 Navarro (128) 3.61 Shoppach (162) 4.27 Vaz (360)

Beni in CF can never make sense.

The only thing great about the 80's was watching Clemens and Boggs, and both soured by either using PEDs and/or signing with the Yanks.

True, just the 1 is 4, the 2 is 1, the 3 is 2 and the 4 is 3.

You have it almost backwards. 00's> 10's>70's>90's>80's

He wouldn't hit 9th for most teams. An OPS of around .730 is about average for CF, these days.

Trade Simulator has him with a plus value of $2M. I think he gets traded not non-tendered.

Those 70's teams were fun to watch. I was a kid, at the time, so maybe that is part of the nostalgia, but we had some colorful and/or talented players to cheer for: Luis Tiant, Fred Lynn, Jim Rice, Yaz, Bill Lee, Rico, Fisk, Evans, Burleson and on and on... The ring in 2004 beats them all, though. I wasn't sure I'd ever see one. Thanks, Henry. Thanks, Theo. Thanks, Dan D for setting the table. Thanks, Papi, Manny, Schill, Pedro, VTek and everyone who helped make that dream come true.

I have no complaints. I enjoyed watching the Sox for over 3 decades without a ring, too. It was super frustrating, at times, but it was fun. The playoff system was different back then, so it's hard to really compare. We made the playoffs once in the 70's but missed by 1/2 game, a play-in loss and a 2.5 GB second place. We made the playoffs twice in the 80's and finished 2.5 games out one year. That's 20 years of really being serious contenders for 7 seasons. The 90's were maybe better: 4 playoffs, but no WS appearances. (I'll tell you, I liked the 70's and 80's better, despite less playoff runs.) What's not to like about Henry's tenure? 17 seasons 10 playoff appearances 6 League Championship appearances 4 World Series appearances 4 World Series victories Also, 5 seasons finishing 11 games or more behind & 7 seasons 7 or more GB. I'm thinking the last 17 seasons have been like what I have described as being optimal. I'll take our current history over making the playoffs 17 times instead of 10, but with no rings. That's all I'm saying. I'm fine with people who prefer 17 straight playoffs with no rings, and it's not all about the rings, to me, but being just good enough to make the playoffs (or coming very close) and nothing more gets frustrating for me.