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Maybe it's just "hyperbole." LOL.

He's basically saying the Sox won't be relevant until 2024, since Devers has arbs through 2023 (3 more).

So, Bloom's "major" acquisitions: Verdugo- Trade Downs- Trade Wong- Trade Potts- Trade Rosario- Trade Pivetta- Trade Seabold- Trade Springs- Trade Matt Hall- Trade A Bautista- Trade M Perez- FA K Pillar- FA J Peraza- FA Moreland- FA Arauz- Rule 5 Yorke- Draft Jordan-Draft Drohan- Draft Wu-Yelland- Draft Miguel Betts- IFA Enderso Lira- IFA Luis Ravelo- IFA Chih-Jung Liu IFA J Osich- Waivers Am I missing any big names? (Some of these are far from "big.")

I think we got better than most expected. I wonder where they will be slotted in the Sox top 20 list. Maybe this? soxprospects.com with my placements: 1. Casa 2. Downs 3. Mata 4. Song 5. Dalbec 6. Jimenez 7. Duran 8. Groome 9. Ward 10. Potts 11. Houck 12. Yorke 13. Lugo 14. Rosario 15. Jordan 16. Chatham 17. A Ramirez 18. Murphy 19. Wong 20. Zeferjahn My top 15: 1. Casas 2. Downs 3. Mata 4. Ward 5. Jimenez 6. Dalbec 7. Song 8. Potts 9. Lugo 10. Groome 11. Wong 12. Duran 13. Jordan 14. Rosario 15. Yorke/ Houck

I guess there is interest in JBJ, too, so yes- all of 'em! Barnes, too.

Agreed. They will likely keep him in the minors until the service time date is past. (He may not have earned the spot by opening day, anyway.)

Could be. Add Chavis as a platoon 1B/2B, if he's not traded, soon.

Bye bye Marco!

MLBTR: The Padres have acquired first baseman Mitch Moreland from the Red Sox. Prospects Hudson Potts and Jeisson Rosario are headed to Boston in return. Moreland, 34, has been in Boston since the start of 2017. On the whole, he’s been a little better than average at the plate, combining for a .251/.332/.471 line (108 wRC+). He has been on an absolute tear this season, though, blasting eight home runs in 79 plate appearances en route to a .328/.430/.746 slash. Moreland has always hit the ball hard, generally avoided strikeouts and drawn his fair share of walks. Like incumbent Padres first baseman Eric Hosmer, Moreland’s a left-handed bat, but he could complement right-handed hitting DH Ty France. Thanks in part to strong contributions from Hosmer and France, San Diego’s lineup has been among the best in baseball this season. Moreland is owed the balance of his $925K prorated salary and comes with an affordable $3MM club option for 2021. In exchange, Boston picks up a pair of well-regarded prospects. Both Potts and Rosario were included among Baseball America’s top 30 Padre farmhands midseason. Potts, a 21-year-old third baseman, draws praise for his big-time raw power and comes with a first-round pedigree, but some scouts question his bat-to-ball skills. He performed well in the low minors, but scuffled a bit last season, when he hit .227/.290/.406 with a 28.6% strikeout rate in Double-A. In fairness, Potts was very young for that level, and the Texas League’s an extremely pitcher-friendly environment regardless. Rosario, 20, was a high-priced international signee from the Pads’ vaunted 2016 J2 class. He draws ample praise for his athleticism and center field defense, although it’s up in the air how much impact he’ll make offensively despite seemingly exceptional plate discipline. Rosario has topped out at the High-A level, where he hit .242/.372/.314 with three home runs in 525 plate appearances. All told, it’s a pretty strong haul for Boston, especially since Moreland’s fantastic start hadn’t helped propel them past an 11-22 record. That said, roster rules help explain why the Padres were willing to part with both players. Each needs to be added to the 40-man this offseason or else be exposed to the Rule V draft. The Pads, who continue to progress their swath of strong prospects to the high minors and above, have a seeming roster crunch incoming. The Red Sox, on the other hand, don’t have a particularly well-regarded farm system and can more easily find roster space for Potts and Rosario this offseason. To clear immediate space for the prospects in their 60-man player pool, Boston released infielder Marco Hernández. The 27-year-old amassed a .265/.300/.342 line in parts of three seasons in Boston.

Rosario may end up being the defensive CF'er we need but not for a few years. Potts may end up at 1B and might not be ready for a couple years. I like the deal.

MLBTR: Moreland, 34, has been in Boston since the start of 2017. On the whole, he’s been a little better than average at the plate, combining for a .251/.332/.471 line (108 wRC+). He has been on an absolute tear this season, though, blasting eight home runs in 79 plate appearances en route to a .328/.430/.746 slash. Moreland has always hit the ball hard, generally avoided strikeouts and drawn his fair share of walks. Like incumbent Padres first baseman Eric Hosmer, Moreland’s a left-handed bat, but he could complement right-handed hitting DH Ty France. Thanks in part to strong contributions from Hosmer and France, San Diego’s lineup has been among the best in baseball this season. Moreland is owed the balance of his $925K prorated salary and comes with an affordable $3MM club option for 2021. In exchange, Boston picks up a pair of well-regarded prospects. Both Potts and Rosario were included among Baseball America’s top 30 Padre farmhands midseason. Potts, a 21-year-old third baseman, draws praise for his big-time raw power and comes with a first-round pedigree, but some scouts question his bat-to-ball skills. He performed well in the low minors, but scuffled a bit last season, when he hit .227/.290/.406 with a 28.6% strikeout rate in Double-A. In fairness, Potts was very young for that level, and the Texas League’s an extremely pitcher-friendly environment regardless. Rosario, 20, was a high-priced international signee from the Pads’ vaunted 2016 J2 class. He draws ample praise for his athleticism and center field defense, although it’s up in the air how much impact he’ll make offensively despite seemingly exceptional plate discipline. Rosario has topped out at the High-A level, where he hit .242/.372/.314 with three home runs in 525 plate appearances. All told, it’s a pretty strong haul for Boston, especially since Moreland’s fantastic start hadn’t helped propel them past an 11-22 record. That said, roster rules help explain why the Padres were willing to part with both players. Each needs to be added to the 40-man this offseason or else be exposed to the Rule V draft. The Pads, who continue to progress their swath of strong prospects to the high minors and above, have a seeming roster crunch incoming. The Red Sox, on the other hand, don’t have a particularly well-regarded farm system and can more easily find roster space for Potts and Rosario this offseason. To clear immediate space for the prospects in their 60-man player pool, Boston released infielder Marco Hernández. The 27-year-old amassed a .265/.300/.342 line in parts of three seasons in Boston.

The Padres have acquired first baseman Mitch Moreland from the Red Sox. Prospects Hudson Potts and Jeisson Rosario are headed to Boston in return.

Sorry. My eyes are failing me. My bad.

I'm almost at this point, but I think we can compete by 2022, so Devers and Bogey can stay. I's listen to offers, but I'd have to be blown away on Devers. ERod could be traded next summer, as could Eovaldi. I'd deal JD, Vaz, Barnes, JBJ, Pillar and Moreland for the best offers, unless I think I can get more for the 2 year players, this winter or next summer.

Has Caim ever had a fat wallet? We know he's done pretty well with finding gems in the rough at relatively low prices, but he can continue to do that AND splurge a little on a shiny FA or two he feels will be part of a longer term plan. I expect there may not be a "mandate" other than "This is the budget- get us to respectability in 2021 and contention in 2022 where the budget will be even higher."

I read that, but I don't see it as happening.

The learning curve for a new catcher is likely too long for Vaz to make a big impact with a new team for 2020. I think the Rays like defensive catcher, so I'm not sure about Vaz as a fit. Maybe we roll the dice on Wong. I'm not sure Vaz is part of our plans for 2022 and beyond, so if a good deal comes along, I'd send him packing.

They could add some cash and find takers for JD.

True. My wording was off. I will say, not many expected them to compete this year, especially the Marlins. They also have had many years of great draft picks and larger signing pools.

For a bag of new or used balls?

Don't look, now, but the Marlins and White Sox are showing that turn-arounds can happen more quickly than many of us imagine.

Even trading players for international pool money might be worth it.

That's how I see it. Also, Workman's peripherals showed he has not been as good as he appears to have been.

If we can fleece the Yanks for a decent prospect, what's the hold up? Trading Price was the right thing to do. This lost season makes it even more reasonable.

The trade simulator accepted this: Eovaldi, Vaz and Chavis for Myers, Quantrill, Baez & Trammell