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  1. Your points are well-taken. Maybe, he planned to use Ottavino in the 9th, so Barnes would get more rest.
  2. I'd rather have Leiter, Davis, Mayer or Lawlar, but I'd be happy with Jobe or even Rocker. If Bloom takes Watson or House, I'd think he knows what he's doing. One note: Bloom's drafting history is not all that great, but maybe their strategy was influenced by their budget.
  3. We hear a lot of talk about this team is like the 2013 ring team- a team largely viewed as over achieving their career norms. Here's a look at 2021... Hitters (by order of most PAs in 2021) 2021 Player Other years .921 Devers .846 career/.916 in '19 .931 JDM .887 career/1.066 '17, 1.031 '18, .939 '19, .912 '14, .908 '16 .924 Bogey .814 career/ .939 in '19, .883 '18, .867 '20 .782 Verdugo .796 career/ .844 '20, .817 '19 .755 Kike .740 career/ .836 '15, .806 '18, .768 '14 .772 Renfroe .775 career/.805 '18, .778 '19 .654 Vazquez .694 career/ .801 '20, .798 '19, .735 '17 .673 Dalbec .746 career/ .959 in '20 .585 Marwin .720 career/ .907 trashcan year, .727-.759 four seasons .720 Arroyo .669 career/.736 '20, '735 '18 5 of the top 10 players, this year, have a higher career OPS than 2021 OPS.
  4. Exactly. Had he just repeated 2018 or 2019, this year, he'd still have made more than this deal.
  5. Arroyo is our 2Bman, not Marwin.
  6. Not enough to get him. I can't see any rental I'd trade a top prospect for. Looking at the soxprospects.com top 20 and next winter's Rule 5 players, I'm not sure all these guys can be part of the 2022 40 man roster or extended future with the Sox. I'd form 3 groups on how I view who I'd maybe trade: Nope: Casas, Duran, Downs, Jimenez, Houck, Bello I doubt it: Seabold, A Ramirez, Yorke, Mata, Song, Winckowski Maybe: Groome, Bonaci, Jordan, Murphy, Lugo, F Valdez, Wong, Ward
  7. They shoulda done it while their stock was high!
  8. Great post, again, oldtimer. I see 3 replaceable pitchers (Andriese, Rios & Workman) and 1 bench player (Santana/Chavis) between the ASB and the trade deadline. I agree, Sale and maybe one or two from Houck/Brasier/Bazardo/Valdez/Ort can fill 2-3 of these 4 slots, but I think we'll trade for one pitcher. Santana/Chavis. He does not play 1B. I think we may roll the dice with what we have or trade for a LH'd hitting 1Bman.
  9. Unless Barnes implodes over the second half, I can't see any scenario where he would not have made way more than this deal. On paper, this is a mega steal for the Sox. While this season looks like an outlier, he has had several very good seasons. His 15.1 K/9 rate is not his career high. He had a 14.3 K/9 rate from 2018-2020. His 3.28 FIP over that time is very nice. (It's 2.04, this year.) His biggest improvement is with BB/9. It was 5.0 from 2018-2020 and is 2.4, now. Can he sustain this? We'll find out. Just a few short months ago, very few wanted him to touch the 9th inning.
  10. Those are not the only 2 choices, but if I had to choose one, I keep him around as a possible 2022 starter. If the Verdugo-Kike-Renfroe OF continues doing very well, the same debate will rage in 2022, as well. I still would not trade him,unless someone offered something I value more than him. I get the feeling some people think I value Duran less than they do, because I only want him called up when Bloom thinks he's ready and can play a lot. I like Duran more than Downs and even Casas, who is rated much higher than Duran. He will get his chance at the right time. The right time does not appear to be right now.
  11. While true, he won't be traded. He is now our closer of the future at a much lower cost that the free agent market would have cost us. Now, which Barnes will we see going forward? To me, even the old Barnes is worth more than $8M/yr.
  12. Bloom is somewhat of a wildcard, because his history was with a team that had a totally different financial strategy, and his time here was during a re-tooling phase and reset the budget restrictions. I'm pretty sure we won't see him selling off free agents-to-be, like he had to do with the Rays, and last summer with the Sox, but what will he do? I doubt we see any blockbuster deals. I think we will stay below the tax line and try to find deals like 2018. Low cost with high reward upside potential.
  13. There is more to it than that. Prospects are often valued very highly, despite piss poor early numbers on the farm, and sometimes numbers over a couple years.
  14. If that's what you think, then we can trade him, this winter, and it remains a mega steal.
  15. Kimmi, this is a highway robbery steal.
  16. It's one thing to not want us to have signed Betts. It's another to not see it as a team friendly deal by thinking other teams would have or might have offered more.
  17. ...and they don't have 2-5 starters like ours or an offense like ours.
  18. They have him at $8.75M in 2021 and 2022 (lux tax) and $7.0 + $10.5 actual pay. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/119QzUde_UBdUsPmv4u8T5_XSvPNi4EVHBZHwuM5_XPA/edit#gid=1520401900 Prorated, the 2021 value would be about $3M for the Sox.
  19. BTV has Downs worth more than 2 times what Santana+Duffy are worth. I’m not sure why you are so down on Downs over 2 months of meh hitting,
  20. Some one like Jobe might be our best hope at getting Leiter.
  21. Why not start 26 or 40 threads just like this for all the Sox you hate?
  22. I have absolutely no issue with Cora's choice. Taylor had been lights out. Plus, he had to face 3 batters, anyway.
  23. It's too complicated to get Duran to play near FT. Renfroe's .697 OPS vs RHPs does not warrant a platoon, due to his D. (.713 career) Verdugo's .511 vs LHPs, maybe. (.692 career) I guess he could take a few PAs away from Verdugo and Renfroe, but these guys are not weak areas needing fixing. That leaves 1B & 2B for Kike to play, so Duran can get enough PAs. This not only weakens the defense in the OF, it does in the IF, too, and for what? Are so sure Duran will out hit Dalbec and/or Arroyo? Dalbec: .603 v RHP/.831 v LHPs (.683/.887 career) Platooning can make some sense, but with Kike? Arroyo: .699 v RHP/.799 v LHP (.685/.661 career) Platooning here makes little sense. Kike: .733 v RHP/.795 v LHP (.682/.817 career) They all are about .680 vs RHPs. No platoon makes sense, here.
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