moonslav59
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I think the idea is to have a sustainable winning strategy, but when you feel real close- you make a big push that won't kill the future budgets. That's the tricky part. After Theo left, he spoke of "getting away" from the sustainable plan too much. I feel Ben was trying to build to that model, but DD up-ended that approach. Bloom looks to be trying to do what Ben was doing, but he has yet to be given a fat checkbook like Theo, Ben and DD got at various times in their tenure with the Sox.
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Making definitive decisions based on one short playoff season is not a winning strategy. It's the flip on signing guys like Pearce and Pablo because the did hit quality pitching for a small sample size or two.
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When you look at our trends in spending, we are about due for a going over the line for a year or two. I'm not saying we will, but an argument can be made that 2022 is "the year" to do it. Kike, Eovaldi, JD and Bogey are one their last years. Sale should be healthy and is only going to get older. Devers and a few others are nearing peak prime years. Whitlock & Houck can be expected to give us more innings than 2021. We have a lot of ifs, and we have a few holed to fill, but does 2023 look any better? I know we have Price's deal coming off the books that winter, but we will be losing a lot of talent, or we'll have to spend very big to keep them or replace them in kind.
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Me, too. I was fine with Ben's 3 last place finishes due to ring. Yes, it sucked, but going into each year, I liked our team on paper- some more than I liked the 2013 team in March! I will say, now that we have some rings, being a consistent contender carries more weight than it did pre-ring, but I very much like winning it all every 4 to 6 or 7 years.
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Could the Sox possibly go big on 2 players and call it a done off-season? For example, could we sign Semien and Scherzer? 1. Kike CF 2. Devers 3B 3. Bogey SS (2B?) 4. Semien 2B (SS?) 5. JD DH 6. Verdugo LF 7. Renfroe RF 8. Dalbec (Casas) 1B 9. Vaz C Bench: Arroyo, Duran/Locastro, Plawecki/Wong (eventually, Casas or Downs) Scherzer, Eovaldi, Sale, Pivetta, Whitlock, Seabold Houck, Barnes, Taylor, Brasier, DHern, Sawamura, Davis/Valdez/Feltman/Bazardo/Crawford/Winckowski
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I think the answer is very individual and subjective. One can argue just having a team you feel is good enough to be a contender in April is good enough- win or lose. I admit, I’ve been spoiled by the rings from 3 GMs, and I want more, but I also like just being constant contenders, too.
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Tigers and Angels interested in ERod... https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/red-sox/mlb-rumors-eduardo-rodriguez-draws-interest-tigers-angels?b
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"He's comfortable in Boston," Boras said. "He wanted to be the best version of himself when hitting free agency." "The ownership there supported this decision and told him they're going to make every effort to make the team even more competitive, so he decided to return," Boras said. By opting in to the final year of his deal, Martinez also protected himself from potentially making less money on a qualifying offer from Boston. -Jake Levin
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Decision on Renfroe? https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/red-sox/why-hunter-renfroes-future-red-sox-looks-murky-big-raise-looming?int
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Noah Song to pitch in 2022? https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/red-sox/red-sox-prospect-noah-song-could-resume-career-2022-heres-why-matters?cid=sm_npd_rsn_bos_fb_mn&fbclid=IwAR0vRU1j2ML_yILo5uklf-8HvqD5ZA3R-IGCdeGpNsSfVeMJ59GHp8IaoMk
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MLBTR reports Dodgers are interested in Luis Castillo and Sonny Gray.
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If I disagree, am I no longer a "smart brother?"
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Yes, and who is downplaying the 2018 season or the 3 consecutive division wins? We "don't care for" those seasons?
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I looked like that, but as the rest of HRam's career went, it looked like the right choice.
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First of all, the "dead money" HRam gave DD a 2.6 bWAR in 2016 and 2.4 overall under DD. (3.0 fWAR in 2016 and 2.3 overall). He was a negative under Ben and a plus under DD. Second, the Pedey money should be considered dead money, but it's hard to blame any GM for what Machado did. The criticism is fair, though. Funny how Pabloe has been a plus bWAR since leaving Boston.
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Will the Sox give Eduardo Rodriguez a Qualifying Offer?
moonslav59 replied to mvp 78's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
More amazing is the team's record in his starts: 13-8 2015 8-12 2016 13-11 2017 34-31 first 3 seasons in MLB is not all that bad. But, then this... 19-4 2018 26-8 2019 19-12 2021 That's 64-24 in his last 3 seasons-- a .727 winning percentage! I don't think any ML pitcher has a better team winning & since 2018. Career: 98-55 (.641) -
While true, how much of this was "dead money" and how much of this was passed on to 2020?
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One of my claims that proved to not come true was that drafting low and having penalties due to cheating, winning and over-spending, it would be hard for DD to draft well and acquire good IFAs. DD did very well on the former, considering having bad picks.
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While all of this is true, Ben did spend a lot of money and ended up spending about as much as DD upon inheriting a pretty good team and so-so farm. He ended up trading many stars, and it worked.
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Updated GM Scoreboard: $10M+ Free Agent Contracts: Ben: $95M Pablo $88M HRam ($73M Castillo) ($63M Moncada) $39M Vic $32M Napoli $26M Ortiz $18M Koji $13M Dempster (retired leaving another $13M on the table) $10M S Drew DD: $217M Price $110M JD $68M Eovaldi $13M C Young $13M Moreland Bloom: $14M Kike $10M Richards Other notable signings/additions: Ben: Pedroia- $90M (extension) Porcello- $83M/4 (extension) DD: Kimbrel- $42M/4 (traded for CK) C Sale $33M/5 (traded for CS) $145M/5 C Sale (extension) $120M/6 Bogey (extension- actually $60M/3 w optout) Bloom: $19M: Barnes (extension) Am I still missing anyone major? Ben: About 4 years as GM- 1 ring (1- 1st place/ 3 last place) DD: About 4 years as GM- 1 ring (3- 1st place) Bloom: About 2 years as GM, including the 60 game season (0 rings and 1st place finishes)
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Yes, I left those off. Looks like the tally is pretty close. The main differences were: 1.Top Free Agent signings (amount and ROI) 2. Quantity of prospects traded
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Blooming Bloom.
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Will the Sox give Eduardo Rodriguez a Qualifying Offer?
moonslav59 replied to mvp 78's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Spending $18M on 180 innings for ERod will likely do more than spending $6M on 3 RP'ers who might pitch well enough to give 60 IP each. -
It probably is pretty close, and if you count contracts traded for, maybe DD takes the lead.
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Ooops!
