moonslav59

Must wins are mostly losses (for everybody).

Well, finally, we face a righty. Watch Devers and Scwarbs go nutty!

That's gotta hurt the Yankee psyche.

I guess the Jays were NOT Means tested.

It doesn't even take analyzing anything to see that, let alone overanalyzing.

I'm not saying Boone should not have yanked Monty before BLowe's second HR, but by your logic, he should have yanked him in the first or before the second inning. He did get 4 of the next 5 guys out- 2 on Ks, so maybe the pen guy would have done worse. It's not like all your pen guys have been lights out, and yanking him in the first would have really put them to the test. Agreed, Boome blundered with Brandon.

The only guy Bloom signed for more than 1 year was Kike. More brilliance. Okay, Sawamura, too, but that was under $2M a year.

Nick, nobody is saying give him the option. Nobody. You keep acting like somebody is. Also, yes, it's $10M, but with the $1.5M buyout, it is really an $8.5M choice. Maybe that does not change anyone's mind, but it's not really a $10M option. That $1.5M counted against the 2021 luxury tax for a reason.

It's fine to disagree with how Sale was used upon his return. I think I remember a poster or two thought we should just not pitch him at all, this year- something I did not support. We brought him back slowly and might have even made sure he faced easier opponents his first 3 starts. After his first start (5 IP), he was given an extra day's rest. After his second start (5 IP), another extra day's rest. After his third start, again another extra day off. Then, he started vs TBR twice, with just normal rest between, but after his 6 IP in the first game, he only lasted to the 4th in the first game he started without an extra day's rest. Call that overanalyzing, and maybe it is, but it is a fact. Then COVID, and he got 11 days "off." Start 6 (5 IP) followed by start 7 on normal rest (5 IP, 6 H, 2BB, 2 ER). His last start came with an extra day's rest and he went into the 6th on 85 pitches. I'm just curious on what here points to why he looks ready to pitch on short rest. He's only started on normal rest, twice this year and 6 times with extra rest. I know it's a big game, and throwing caution to the wind is often a strategy team's use, but we need an arm Sunday, too, so I'm not sensing the great need for him to go Saturday and not Sunday. Also, pitching Sale, today would force Eovaldi to start on short rest, tomorrow with no Sale in the pen.

I'm not making things up. Sale falls apart after a certain amount of pitches, as do several starters of ours. Call that overanalyzing all you want, but every manager in MLB watches these types of things, and for good reason. Yes, it would be great to be able to stop babying him - and other SP'ers, too, but it's not some freaky opinion to think now is not the time you push Sale beyond what he has shown he can do. Maybe it would work. I'm not claiming to know the answer. I'm just giving my opinion and try to back it up with evidence when I have some. It's not "all figured out," and my point all along has actually been to say nothing is all figured out and you can't predict what will happen based on recent trends and results. Things Can turn on a dime is my position not things WILL change on a dime. They've been turning on a dime, all year, and the Yanks are showing that, right now. Will the dime flip again over the last 1-2 games? I sure don't know, but you seem to know, so tell me...

With Means going for the O's, today, this might be the best chance to put the Jays out of it. I doubt the Angels can win, again, but stranger things have happened. Hoping the Rays hold on, today, but it just comes down to us needing to win. I know, I now just win baby is overanalyzing, but apparently, that's what I do best.

Y.W.

It's all nice and fluffy to just proclaim Sale is ready to stop being babied, but the guy can't get past 60-70 pitches, and it's NOT overanalyzing to have the position using him on short rest is a major risk, especially when you consider, as you pointed out, Sunday is more likely an elimination game while today's is certainly not. Sale has been pitching well. Better than most of our starters, but he's coming off TJS and is not likely going to do better today, on short rest, than tomorrow on normal rest. It's a very simple concept that is not really all that hard to figure out.

Montgomery sucked. As much as I think Boone sucks, too, he didn't allow Montgomery to suck. BTW, maybe the players you felt were better than ours and others, like Montgomery, just are not as good as you thought. Many Yankee players are coming up short, when it is most needed. You can blame injuries every year, but it's time to realize you have a team loaded with injury prone players who just may not be as good as you think, even when healthy. No doubt, this team has talent, but you need to start adding reliable players not all cut from the same cookie cutter Cashman uses every winter.

I think they also want to keep players sharp. Not having the play-in games gives them enough natural time off to have everyone fresh and all their pitching lined up to their liking. I doubt they rest anyone, tomorrow. They may yank the starter a bit earlier than normal, but normal for them is early, anyway.

Try to follow along. You are truly lost.

You make no sense, at all. You say "all hands on deck," but I'm "overanalyzing" for basically saying the same thing about Sale and Eovaldi both being available, tomorrow. Even when I agree with you, you criticize my points. Twisted, man.

The ups and downs by the WC contenders over this season have been startling. It's almost like a pattern. As soon as one team starts looking like they are a cinch to make the PO's, they fall off a cliff. As soon as we start to write a team off, they win 7 in a row or more. We've seen long win streaks and winning stretches by all 4 of these teams. We've seen long losing streaks and losing stretches by all 4, too. We've seen mini win streaks followed by mini losing streaks. We've seen beating great teams and losing to crappy teams and vice versa. We've seen beating the best pitchers and losing to unknowns. We've see our starters carry us, then flop, then come back to more than respectable. We've seen our pen carry us for about 4 months, then have a major implosion- highlighted by a complete meltdown by Barnes. Now, they are hit and miss. We've seen our offense go from the comeback kids and masters of teh 3 run job to meek and mild masters of the solo job. With two games left, it's almost like we should expect one last flip, but I'm liking our position as of today. Our pitching might need some prayers, today, but we gotta stay positive. One game at a time!

jacko was hoping they'd rest everyone, this series... NOT!

Two 3-run jobs by Lowe (38th)! Then a back-to-backer by Zunino (33rd). 7 to 1 Rays over the Yanks in the 3rd. Still early, but calling the Yanks a choke and seeing them watch the WC game from afar would be almost as nice as watching us play the WC game!

I don't usually agree with this type of argument, but I think there might be a lot of truth to this.

Nobody, except I mentioned he might, if we used Sale, today. Or, we might use Sale and Eovaldi, tomorrow in tandem- who knows which one starts, assuming tomorrow is an elimination game.

Good to see Brandon Lowe hurting other teams than just the Sox.

But it is exactly the type of trade many Sox fans would roast our GM for making. Trading an established solid pitcher for prospects while being a top competitor. Same with Snell and others.

You missed one scenario that would prohibit "resting everyone:" Tying for the WC2 slot. You don't rest anyone until you clinch not having to play in to the WC game.