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4/27 SOX @ Jays 7:07PM ET
moonslav59 replied to SPLENDIDSPLINTER's topic in Mike Grace Memorial Game Thread Forum
It's Vaz & Kike's last year, too -
4/27 SOX @ Jays 7:07PM ET
moonslav59 replied to SPLENDIDSPLINTER's topic in Mike Grace Memorial Game Thread Forum
I think Manny's $2M a year ends in 2026, right? But, I think we are done with Pablito. -
4/27 SOX @ Jays 7:07PM ET
moonslav59 replied to SPLENDIDSPLINTER's topic in Mike Grace Memorial Game Thread Forum
Plus you prefaced your statement with the qualifier about not being in contention (at a later point was implied.) -
It will be interesting to see what the pen looks like after rosters are reduced to 26. They did extend the deadline on allowing 14 pitchers until May 29th, so my guess is we use that.
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No doubt, and if someone wants to read deeply into the "dial back" of 2020 and 2021, they should look at Henry's history of spending more in spurts and dialing back a bit in between. There was no reason to think this latest slight dial back was going to be long lasting and the Story signing is a sign the short "dial back" is over. We dialed it back a little in 2005, 2008 through 2009, 2012 & '14 before this latest one. Even those seasons were big spending seasons compared to more than two-thirds of the season. It's been a pretty solid pattern through Henry's tenure. I do see a similarity between Ben and Bloom and the shift in philosophy towards a more balanced approach between the farm and big club. I can't see why some view that as a negative thing. It seems like the best way to plan for sustained winning, and I'm pretty certain Henry will open his wallet when we seem to be a key player or two away from being a top contender. I'm not sure we are there, right now.
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What? Wong was our best catcher, last year! LOL
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Interesting to note the drop off our closers had the year after the ring: WHIP Foulke .940> 1.555 Papelbon .771> .952 Uehara .565>.917 Kimbrel .995> 1.597 (w Cubs)
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Yes, and I agreed. Koji had some very good numbers before 2013, too- just not as a closer. WHIP: .955 2010 BAL .723 2011 BAL/TEX .639 2012 TEX .565 BOS 2013 .917 BOS 2014 .917 BOS 2015 .957 BOS 2016 1.163 Cubs 2017 Having a great closer was certainly a major aspect of all 4 winning teams. No doubt.
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Tomase wrote this (for what it's worth): So why isn't he in pitching-starved Boston? The Red Sox didn't like his medicals. Graterol underwent Tommy John surgery on his right elbow in 2016 and sat out the next 15 months. A shoulder impingement sidelined him for two months last year, and when the Red Sox got a look at his imaging, they decided he'd be physically limited to a relief role, decreasing the value of the prospective starter they thought they were acquiring.
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Maybe Houck or Whitlock will be this year's Koji.
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Has he been on the IL much, already? If yes, was it for the condition the Sox were concerned about?
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4/27 SOX @ Jays 7:07PM ET
moonslav59 replied to SPLENDIDSPLINTER's topic in Mike Grace Memorial Game Thread Forum
With Plawecki starting over Vazquez, we still have not seen the "best nine" in any line-up, so far this year. This is the closest. (Who gets tomorrow off?) -
You shouldn't have asked.
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Checking out a wart on my ass! It's old and it's red.
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While true in one sense, the statement is a bit misleading. Uehara was not a lights out closer when he came to the Sox. He wasn't even a closer. In fact, he was the third closer we tried in 2013. Still, he was lights out, but maybe our 3rd closer this year will be, too. LOL! Kimbrel was a lights out closer, except for an important part of 2018. Some claimed we won despite his playoff performance, that year. Again, he was a lights out closer but with an asterisk. 2018 playoffs: 10.2 IP 9 H (2 HR) 8 BB 10 K 7 ER (5.89 ERA) 1.589 WHIP
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Except more money? Pay no attention to the man behind the cutain.
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Exactly, and of course, mistakes have been made and maybe we could have done more (or less) here or there to have maybe won 5 rings, but maybe those changes might have created only 3 rings. I don't expect going all in, every year. We saw the affects of 2018, and I'm not so sure going "ALL" in will happen again.
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I'm not either, but the plan has brought us rings, and I'm thinking it will again, once the higher ups deem a season a "go for it" one.
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Well, that ain't happening. It appears they recognize when they have a better chance, some years, and they choose to put more into those years or windows. You can like that or dislike it, but to me, that seems to be the way it is. I'm not going to argue with a strategy that brought us 4 rings in 2 decades after battle crying "Wait til next year" for over 3 decades and getting nothing.
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Well, that is $16M and hardly nothing. A great deal has been made abut the farm DD traded not doing so well, since the trades, and that has been mostly true, except for Moncada, Kopech and Margot plus some marginal values, but what do we still have left to show for those trades? Could we have gotten players with more years of team control? I'm not trying to relitigate the trades, but they did affect the team we have now, and I won't even count Sale or Eovaldi, since thy were extended after the trades. Plus, going over the lux line does not mean we didn't limit some spending due to past expenses and possibly counting Sale & Eovaldi's costs, now.
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Indeed.
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So, no affects from going all in in 2018? Really? None?
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Mine, too. I only mentioned the A's starters, because it was well-known they were being shopped and the return for Manaea was rather weak. He had a BTV of about 14. I suggested many trades accepted by BTV. Herer were some: Downs for Manaea & Piscotty (Neg 8.6 value) Duran, Dalbec, Downs, Lugo & Wong for Manaea, Langeliers & Trivino Duran & Jordan for Manaea, Pache & Trivino But, I also once suggested Wikelman, Jordan and Seabold for Manaea & Trivino Bassitt had a value around 17. I once offered Mata, Winckowski, Seabold & Sawamura for Bassitt, Piscotty & Trivino
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Had we traded for Bassitt and or Manaea, Houck and or Whitlock would still be in the pen.
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The two prospects are doing very well. Plus... 2022 fWAR 0.1 JBJ 0.1 Renfroe And I was one who scratched his head over this trade and got scalped for doing so.
