3 out of our top 30 prospects, of which 10 are pitchers, so maybe 3 out of 20?
Bleis might be plus. Casas is close to avg/plus. Wong looks good. Maybe that number is closer to 5 or 6 out of 20.
I heard Enmanuel Valdez is a whiz on defense at DH.
A couple more games like this, and it's a lock.
Too bad Bloom gave Diekman the 2 year deal, not Wacha.
BTW, has anyone figured out how Bloom actually got something decent in return for DFAiekman?
We hear a lot about how long we have to wait to start seeing the fruits of farm building. Here is soxprospects.com's estimated times of arrival for our top and notable prospects:
2022
3. Bello
9. Winckowski
12. Seabold
17. Wong
2023
2. Casas
6. Mata
7. Walter
11. Murphy
16. E Valdez
30. F German
2024
1. Mayer
4. Yorke
8. Rafaela
15. Ward
21. Lugo
26. W Abreu
28. Binelas
29. Jimenez
2025>
5. Bleis
10. Romero
13. Paulino
14. Anthony
18, Jordan
19. Gonzalez
20. Coffey
22. Hickey
25. Kavadas
24. Perales
27. Bonaci
The list looks nicely balanced, assuming our top prospects amount to something special, and we have a lot of interesting talent becoming ML ready by the end of 2023. We also have some very talented players about to be added to the 40 for Rule 5.
10 players- should be ready by 2023 or were already called up. Plus, there is no Noah Song or RHern on this top 30 list- both might contribute, someday.
It will be interesting to see how long Mayer takes.
One guy I find interesting is Rafaela. I know he broke into the minors at 17, but the guy can field and has hit pretty well at every level- a little slow to start, but was just promoted to AA, this year- his 6th season with the Sox, counting the lost 2020 season.
Gotta think he gets a ST'ing invite after he gets protected from Rule 5.
That's assuming Renfroe ages well. Not many players do better after age 30 than before, like Dewey did.
Renfroe has had 3 decent seasons and has never played over 144 games in a season, only 2 seasons over 122 games and 3 over 117 games.
I think that is a huge leap of faith on Renfroe's abilities and aging composition.
Even when Evans struggled, his defense and OBP made him a net plus for pretty much all of his 20 seasons in MLB.
He never had a bWAR below 0.3, and for his middle 16 seasons, his lowest bWAR was 1.2. His next 2 lowests were 2.0 and 3.0!
We have brought up Whitlock (a prospect but not really ours), Houck, Wink, Crawford, Wong, Ja Davis, who have mostly done well, and guys like Bello, Seabold and a couple others who have not done all that well, so far.
I don't see a good comp between Renfroe and Evans. They are too dissimilar in almost every category. Renfore hits way more HRs, which makes their SLG% close. They both had strong arms. That's about it. You mentioned BAs being about the same, but they really were not. The OBP, throwing accuracy and overall defense are way apart.
I'm okay with Renfroe reminding you of Evans. I just don't see it.
I'm not sure how current payroll plays into the comp.
The trumpeting blares at just how bad Bloom's inherited pitchers were, this year in ERA, not how great the staff was.
The staff is 13th in ERA- and 9th in xFIP-. There is no sugar-coating how bad this staff was.
These numbers show a more balanced credit/blame matrix.
By pitchers (30+ IP):
ERA-
47 Scheiber
66 Wacha
74 Whitlock
77 Houck (DD's guy)
78 Sawamura
98 Danish
102 Nate (DD)
102 Crawford (DD)
103 Diekman
110 Pivetta
115 Wink
115 Davis
116 Hill
130 Brasier (DD)
xFIP-
67 Schreiber
83 Whitlock
84 Nate (DD)
87 Brasier (DD)
92 Houck (DD)
102 Danish
104 Crawford (DD)
105 Pivetta
105 Sawamura
108 Wacha
109 Davis
111 Hill
114 Diekman
115 Wink
Evans aged very well.
Renfroe is 30, and it remains to be seen how he ages.
Evans was more than just an arm in RF, and his arm was not only strong, it was accurate as hell.
I'm not sure where your BA information is coming from but here are their career lines, which include Dwight's past prime years:
BA
.272 Evans
OBP.
.370 Evans (This alone, blows any comp with renfroe out of the water, IMO.)
.298 Renfroe
SLG
.470 Evans
.490 Renfroe (makes up a little for lower OBP)
Defense:
8 GGs Evans
0 top 10m finishes in GG voting
Some K:BB ratios on the farm:
75:7 Walter (.585 OPSA as well.)
115:13 Van Belle (lets up a lot of hits)
118:34 Bello (might be our best farm pitching hope)
129:38 Drohan (showing signs)
120:54 Murphy (Could be our closer for the future?)
81:21 Santos (.789 OPSA not so great)
94:32 Keller (the quiet one)
95:33 Uberstine (the sleeper?)
98:48 Gonzalez (needs to improve, here.)
59:26 Mata (not bad in rehab)
66:18 Seabold (over-rated?)
54:18 in 39 IP Frank German (Closer material?)