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  1. MIL will get Wm Contreras. He'd have fit nicely on the Sox. I wonder what they gave up to get him, and what we might have had to give.
  2. Seems that way to me, too. But it's not something that can't be fixed, and winning helps. a lot.
  3. I have to think they will be affected by all the massive criticism and outright anger by fans and the media over this. Whether they change as a result remains to be seen. (I doubt it.) It's no fun going through this so often, but it was easier to turn my head when we got a ring every few years. I've tried to convince myself having this management group is still worth it, because I honestly feel like our longer term future has been getting bright for 3 straight years, after taking a heavy hit the previous 2-3 years. I'm not so sure hopes and optimism can carry me much longer. I'm really excited about Bello, Casas, Mayer, Bleis, Rafaela, Mata, Yorke, Walter and the amount of second tier prospects like Romero who might take bigs steps up, next season. I'm not sure if the supporting cast of Yoshida, McGuire, Dugo, Whitlock, Houck, Pivetta, Jansen, Martin and a few other players under control for beyond 2023 is enough to feel we are just one or two big additions away from being on top, again. Extending Devers would help, a lot.
  4. Maybe this will be the start of a trade flurry: To ATL: Sean Murphy To MIL: William Contreras To A;s: Manny Pina, Freddy Tarnock & Esteury Ruiz (Others may be involved and one report has Kyle Muller to the A's.)
  5. They see Mayer as the much cheaper option, even if they have to wait a year or two. I see how we can kill two birds with one stone (well, 2 stones): Sign Correa Trade Mayer for an ace at a low cost. If you average Correa's $35M per and an arb pitcher's $5M, we just paid $20M each for an ace and an all star SS. (Ain't happening.)
  6. To me, it's about how much the GM gets in winter spending vs what he lost and the value of the players he lost. This year, we have (maybe) $90M to spend, but when you factor in losing Betts, Nate, JD, Wacha, Hill, Strahm and Vaz, that $90M looks pretty weak. Yes, replacing all of them with just $90M is not being a "big time player," agreed. It's not really being TB North, either.
  7. I mentioned it once as an aside. Back then, it wasn't all that big a thing. The Rays did it with Longoria and Moore, but it was not common. I'm just glad DD kept Devers out of all the guys he traded away. I don't blame DD. I was just making a point. I do think the Sox should have tried hard to lock up the big 3, long ago. Maybe they did. I do think this group should have locked up Bogey after DD failed to do so, but with the no trade aspect, and my belief they never wanted him back at market rates, that's a tough call. (Just my belief/opinion. Not trying to say that is a fact.)
  8. After the 2019 season, yes. Both could have tried to lock him up at a much younger age- even to just add 1-2 years of control beyond the arb years. If we are talking about real smart extensions, then Betts and Bogey could/should have been extended under DD, but of course, no blame can ever be directed towards him, by some, here.
  9. Understandable. I will say, the Sox have spent close to $50M AAV on 2023, counting the Kike extension. They may spend $40M more. Spread out, it does not look like "urgency," I agree.
  10. It's hard to think they are all so dumb as to believe their top priority was to sign Bogey under market value. If you are dumb, saying Bogey at below the rates is our top priority is not technically a lie.
  11. I thought the early signings, like with Whitlock and what the Braves and Rays do was best. No DD criticism, here, for not locking all of them up pre or during their arb years?
  12. Disagreeing again.
  13. Do you take joy in being wrong about the Sox, nearly every year?
  14. Forget the injuries, then. Think: no more JBJ, Plawecki, Cordero, Diekman, Davis, Danish and Sawamura and a few even worse (it's over 200 IP, easily). Think no or less from Bobby D and Duran. I know these departures don't equal the losses of the 6-7 good players (Bogey, JD, Wacha, Hill, Nate, Strahm and Vaz), but we are talking about eliminating over 1500 bad PAs from 2022. That's less than Bogey, JD and Vaz. We're talking eliminating over 200 bad IP to about 400 good ones, but we added Jansen (50+), Martin (50+) and should see more from Bello and, gasp, Sale, too. Choose to be positive.
  15. Dugo and Ref have .800+ OPS on their splits since 2020, combined. How can even .750 from them not top JBJ's (Duran & Cordero's) offense? I'm not super confident either in projecting healthy, but I do think the odds are, we get more from Kike than 2021.
  16. "In the right way," like they should have extended him many years ago, and it's too late, now? Thanks, DD!
  17. Like you never do.
  18. Post #7297 agreed with you. #7298 began the disagreement phase.
  19. LOL. Imagine if a team like BAL or TBR outbid us! Err... wait....
  20. They also make money in other ways.
  21. I keep hearing many posters in love with all the last place finishes.
  22. You aren't optimistic Yoshida will be better than JBJ, Duran and Cordero were in the OF, last year? You aren't thinking Kike will play more and do better in '22 than '21? (He doesn't have to repeat 2021 offensive numbers to be a big improvement.) I've said the D will be worse on the corner, but the O should be better across the boards, assuming normal health. I think we sign Conforto or Gallo and trade Dugo. I'm not sure that's an improvement on offense.
  23. I can't respond to just one aspect of this off season?
  24. I don't disagree and don't think anything here counters what I think. For some reason we valued extending non-homegrown players like Sale, Nate, Porcello and AGon more than our own, and spent more on Sale, Crawford, Story and others more than many of our homies. We did offer Betts a lot. I do think that was close to market value, at the time. Bogey and lester- NO.
  25. All they had to do, if they wanted to trade him, was sign him and move him to another position, right away. (Maybe?)
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