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  1. That wasn't the point being discussed, but your diversions are expected. If no moves are made, I think many agree it's going to be Arroyo at 2B and Story at SS, but that's a different topic. I can't see Story at SS, Kike at 2B and Refsnyder in CF winning a plurality of votes. If Arroyo or Ref batted lefty, maybe some sort of complex platoon at CF & 2B could occur with Kike playing CF or 2B depending on a lefty or righty starter, but it just makes more sense for us to add a SS. Trading for one of the 3-4 discussed here won't even cost a top 10 or 20 prospect. Signing Andrus still leaves us way below the tax line. It makes too much sense, so I'm not surprised you like Story at SS.
  2. No, with aging pitchers... no wait...
  3. BTV accepted and both sides have majority approval by contributors to the site in these two trades: Chris Murphy for Jorge Mateo Chris Murphy for Michael A Taylor If we do both trades quickly enough, maybe we can pull it off and get Mateo and Taylor.
  4. I know it's hard to believe, but the Yankees have proven to care about their budget, since the George era. If you want to hear rants about failure to spend on a team, go outside your bubble and read some past Yankee blogs. The Yanks will reset within 3 years: book it. Even the Dodgers are resetting, as we speak.
  5. Taylor Rogers to Giants for $33M/3.
  6. Seems awfully similar to the argument we could find enough PAs for Schwarber, JD and Dugo after the 2021 season.
  7. They all seem pretty even, in terms of 2023 expectations, and really, that should be the issue. Nate's future is always a big question mark, mainly because of his health, but he's also had dips in effectiveness about as often as spikes of the leat 4, 6, 8 or more years. His peripheral numbers in 2022 were down. Hill keeps chugging along, even at age 42, but one keeps wondering when the bubble will burst. Was it agreed that he'd take the spring of 2023 off? Wacha's 2022 could easily be viewed as a fluke or an outlier. He's probably the hardest to project. Kluber is a risk, too, but his injury was long enough ago to get a pretty good idea of what to expect- maybe easier to project than Nate, Wacha or Hill for 2023. He has 37 starts since Aug 30, 2021. Good enough for me.
  8. Again, I'm not arguing that the choice was wrong for business or even for team success, but I do believe trading JD would not have affected the bottom line revenues enough to offset how much happier the fans would be when we don't have to reset as early, we get better prospects with better comp picks, and maybe we we don't do any worse than we did to end 2022 without JD. Fans seem to get over being angry, when the team wins, and we'd have a better chance at winning not only in 2023, but beyond had we had a mini fire sale or an all out one. (IMO)
  9. And, when players are often hurt or wildly inconsistent, maybe just the last year is less important, right?
  10. Let's see what Wacha gets, and we may get an answer.
  11. Signing Judge & Rodon, now makes them in a worse financial situation than the Sox. (They probably were worse before that signing.) Major commitments: BOS $112.5M/5 Story $90M/5 Yoshida $44.3M/2 Sale $32M/2 Jansen $17.5M/3 Martin $16.5M/3 Whitlock That's all the Sox have commited beyond 2023. NYY $360M/9 Judge $216M/6 Cole $162/6 Rodon $135M/5 Stanton (counting the $3M a yr MIA pays) $60M/4 LeMahieu $40M/2 Rizzo $31M/3 Hicks $28M/2 Donaldson (counting the buyout in '24) $11.5M/2 Kahnle
  12. Do you agree the focus on LF and DH, in terms of the percentage of the winter budget going there was part of the mustard not being cut?
  13. How does he not get to more balls with 3 guys on the right side of the field than when there was 4? If playing deeper into the OF meant getting to more balls, he'd do it without the shift, too. Now, with Story at SS playing right on the line vs LHBs, he should get to more balls hit to the rights side than most SSs, so "range" will help there, too, but it seems clear that the 2B position's range becomes way more valuable due to the rule change than SS, RF or 1B.
  14. He'll get to the Balls Bogey got to when shifting. You compare Story to other 2Bman with and without the shift. I'm sure he had better range in both cases.
  15. I'm not sure making moves earlier in the season would have made enough of a difference, but you make a good point. Finding pen help early could have helped a lot. Finding help at 1B was a bit more complicated, because Casas was ready in the wings, until he got hurt in June, I believe. Giving up on JBJ in RF, earlier would have helped, but we probably needed a Schwarber type not a Pham. Maybe adding Josh Bell, Pham and 2 decent RP'ers in June would have changed my feelings, but the whole 2022 season seemed like a major snakebite season, almost from day one. No matter what we say about the what ifs before the deadline, it seemed clear to me trading at least JD outweighed any hopes we had to glory in the 2022 playoffs, and it wasn't even close at the deadline.
  16. I've never said taking fan reaction into account is a bad thing, and it may very well be bad for business, but it can be a bad thing for the long term outlook of the team.
  17. Nate, Hill and Wacha, basically started as many games as 2 durable SP'ers combined. If we assume Kluber starts 31 games, again, he replaces 1.5 of the lost big 3. More starts from Whitlock and Bello can make up for the other 1.5, which leaves Pivetta vs Pivetta and then Sale/Paxton/Mata/Walter and others ve the 6.00 ERA of Crawinkbold.
  18. We can mix and match in many different combinations. Here is what we lost: I'll use ERA, although I don't think is is the best measure: GS'd Pitcher ERA 26 Hill 4.27 23 Wacha 3.32 20 Nate 3.87 34 Crawford, Wink, Seabold & Davis at over 6.00. Mix and match as you wish, but these are the additions: Expected Whitlock 9 GS'd to 28-33 (3.45 ERA) Bello 11 GS'd to 28-33 (Hopefully improving on his 4.71 ERA of 2022, but still way better than Crawinkold.) Sale 2 GS'd to ???? (Always a guess) Paxton 0 GS'd to ??? (Always a guess) Kluber 0 GS'd to ??? (Depends who you compare him to.) Mata, Walter & Murphy 0 GS'd to ??? (34 GS'd by Crawford, Wink, Seabold hopefully much less than 34 in 2023 or with better results than 2022.)
  19. It's not just adding Kluber. They've committed to Whitlock as a SP'er and bulked up the pen to more than make up for his loss from there. Bello is expected to make 20 more starts. While we don't know how good he will do in 2023, we also don't know how bringing Nate and Wacha back would work out either. What about the 31 GSd by Crawford, Wink and Seabold at a 6.23 ERA being replaced along with Nate, Wacha and Hill? Our rotation should be better in 2023 than it was in 2022. It's speculation, but so would having deGrom or Rodon.
  20. Thanks for that reply. To me, the Sox failure to not have a fire sale or mini fire sale had more to do with upsetting the fanbase than thinking a 0.5% chance at winning vs a 0.01% was worth not doing it. I know my "crybaby fan" statement inflamed some emotions, but basically, I think projected fan reaction played the largest role in that choice. Just the reset delay and the better 2 comp picks alone, made it worth trading JD and playing Hosmer or Dalbec at DH. Forget any returns we might have gotten for him.
  21. Exactly, and Red was acting like it was a reason to move him off 2B and to SS. The changing shift rules add more value to 2B range than SS range, although it does help to have a SS with better range, too, but that is true, shift or not.
  22. Certainly, if we could have had Bogey at $160M/6, I'd agree it was a massive mistake by Bloom & Co. I'd also tend to believe JH would have been okay with signing Bogey at slightly above Story's deal, and the mistake would land firmly on Bloom and his minions. I'm just not sure we can believe any of these "reports." We've heard so many conflicting reports, we know some had to be fabrications by the media or the leaker.
  23. I'm not saying a "top prospect." My point was it seem logical we could have gotten 1 better prospect, instead of the 2- or 4 in the Beni case.
  24. Not great, but he's being asked to replace the 8-7 4.27 Hill, who is actually 5 years older than Kluber. Kluber ranked 38th in fWAR, which would make him a solid #2 SP'er were he to repeat 2022 in 2023. It's nit what many of us hoped for, but it's a big step forward in an actual area of high need.
  25. As much as things went wrong in 2022, we finished 8 games out of the last WC slot with 3 teams between us and the Rays- BAL, CWS and MN. I'm not sure how much better those 4 teams will be in 2023, but I think we are already a playoff contender. Adding a SS and another pitchers might make us odds on to make it, and apparently any team that makes it can win it all.
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