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he really tried to. i know some believe it is a roll of the dice. i am not a "randomness" person. i do believe in players rising to occasions / getting on hot streaks or conversely chocking. this is why i love me some papi, schill, and Manny and why i loathe the price signing. i dont want the guys that can just get us to the playoffs. i want the guys that can win the damn thing. there are no guarantees in baseball but i also dont believe it is strictly a roll of the dice. probably doesnt make sense but in my mind it does.

wade davis $7,000,000 still doesnt change the point.

i think we are discussing different things here. i am saying you dont need to pay a crazy amount of money for an elite closer. i'm saying you can have an elite closer without paying for it. if you consider Koji an elite closer (as i do) then it seems we agree. we dont need to pay kimbrel $20MM x 5 years to have an elite closer.

late movement. if home plate was 57' or 65' he would have been pedestrian....

I would expect DD to make a trade like that. he burns the Farm. but, yes, i would be pissed to give that much up for a rental. but when it turns into a parade you have to accept that rental/payoff. the reward (in this case) made up for the payment.

i am not arguing the greatness that rivera was. but just perhaps the MFY win 7 WS Championships during that same time frame if someone else is the closer? do you really think they win 0?

How accurate are the strike zone boxes? A lot more accurate than the umpires, the HBO producers found. They asked Yale professor Dr. Toby Moskowitz to study the Pitch f/x data from MLB games in recent seasons. Moskowitz analyzed every pitch called by major league umpires – nearly a million in all – over the last 3 ½ years. MLB claims its umpires call 97 percent of balls and strikes correctly. But according to Moscowitz and HBO, the study showed that only about 88 percent of the calls were accurate. Roughly one of every eight pitches, in other words, were called incorrectly. As Frankel pointed out, that adds up to more than 30,000 bogus balls or strikes each season. That figure includes the obvious calls where the pitches are right down the middle or way outside. When Moscowitz narrowed his analysis to pitches that were within two inches, either way, of the corners of the plate, the umpires got the call wrong 31.7 percent of the time – nearly one of every three pitches! https://www.star-telegram.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/gil-lebreton/article105378146.html

here's the forest and the trees: you dont need a $20MM AAV closer to have a parade. or even a $10MM closer. it seems some on here are arguing that you do. well the facts (or statistics as some like to call them) say otherwise. but as we see, you can have a parade without an "elite closer" on the duckboats..... and one time the other city got to have a parade because of the "elite closer" (2001)....he ended up being just as reliable as byun yung kim.....

is .667 with zero defense "playing well"????

he gave up the same amount of runs last night that barnes did and 1 more earned run than kelly. perhaps kelly and barnes are underpaid? btw - kimbrel ERA is also higher than barnes and he's given up 5 more HR's. perhaps barnes should be the closer.

thank you.

let me know which of the past 10 World Series winning teams spent an overpay on a closer contract.

whoops. World Series winners: ken Giles $550,000 hector rondon $5,800,000 greg holland $8,250,000 sergio romo $5,500,000 koji uehara $4,250,000 santiago casilla $2,200,000 fernando salas $498,000 brian wilson $6,500,000

bingo.

mmmmkay. how much do you want to sign Kimbrel for? 5 years / $100MM?

heres a statistic: Rivera is 0 for 1 with a big fat L in World Series Game 7 games. you originally said what would we do without an elite closer like Kimbrel in a game 7. that's my response. the GOAT closer blew his game 7 chance. perhaps the MFY win the 2001 WS if Joe Blow was the closer that year....

he looked pretty bad. it's amazing they didnt score more off of him.

agreed. which is also why maybe we shouldn't spend an exorbitant amount of money on a closer. use that money elsewhere.

he needs to be sent down to work on his game.....

no one will ever have a Mo. but he still blew a World Series Game 7.

thats a pretty good line.

that 4th season tho. as for DD...just because acquiring Kimbrel was a good move doesnt mean he didn't also get fleeced on an overpay. as pointed out by notin, he was acquired 8 months prior for much much less. how do you feel about the Pom trade?

he always posted links to his own website. i think he was trying to generate traffic?

lol. all true. i will say i did enjoy lyons waxing about clutch hitting last night tho.... gomes cant even read the lineup correctly...

hahaha. i was about to post something similar.